[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[Sanji Himura]

Firstly, I wasn't really accusing Bernie of laundering Soros's money. What I was accusing Sanders of was accepting funds from those who have accepted Soros money. To explain in brief how Soros is now slapped with a $7 billion tax bill that he won't pay (we go to jail for tax evasion for millions less), he funnels money around to certain organizations as a tax write off (as a guess, I would say that around 3% of his total networth is treated in this fashion).

The organizations that received the money would, consequently, have to pay the income tax, or in other wise account for that money if they are non-profit. As a result, that money gets shuffled around between them, to the point where the IRS can't keep a clear record of it.

In summary, Soros gets the tax benefits for donating to a non-profit, but the government can't tax it.

 

[TenEightyOne]

None that is being reported by main stream media. Van Jones, if you want some similar comparison, had to resign his gig at the Obama Administration with similar reporting (in other words, the true journalists dug up Van Jones in his own words, but even then, the MSM wouldn't report on it until AFTER he resigned.)

I take that back. Here is a lovely article from Bloomberg that describes how Soros tax dodges:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/george-soros-s-tax-bill?cmpid=BBD043015

That's amazing, he's literally the first super-rich person in history to have kept hold of money by having the clout and reserves to move it around, defer income, take tax breaks via charitable donations, support non-profit companies, non-dom companies and to generally give the domestic revenue collectors the legal run-around.

The only astonishing thing is that nobody, simply nobody has done this before, it's unheard of.

 

[Sanji Himura]

That's amazing, he's literally the first super-rich person in history to have kept hold of money by having the clout and reserves to move it around, defer income, take tax breaks via charitable donations, support non-profit companies, non-dom companies and to generally give the domestic revenue collectors the legal run-around.

The only astonishing thing is that nobody, simply nobody has done this before, it's unheard of.

I didn't say that it wasn't legal. It isn't his fault that Congress can't seem to get their head out of butt and simplify the tax code.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I didn't say that it wasn't legal. It isn't his fault that Congress can't seem to get their head out of butt and simplify the tax code.

And there's the problem I suspect - what's to mean that such legislation won't damage their personal interests too?

 

[Sanji Himura]

And there's the problem I suspect - what's to mean that such legislation won't damage their personal interests too?

I agree, but one must consider that all of the changes to the tax code in the last 20-25 years were all in the name of dealing political favors to big donors from anywhere to the Koch Brothers (yeah, they are not safe from this) to George Soros.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Poll News Flash
Source: Real Clear Politics

Arizona Senate
John McCain (i) (R) - 40%
Richard Carmola (D) - 34%

David Schweikert (R) - 39%
Richard Carmola (D) - 39%

Matt Salmon (R) - 43%
Richard Carmola (D) - 35%

Christine Jones (R) - 36%
Richard Carmola (D) - 42%

Kelli Ward (R) - 36%
Richard Carmola (D) - 39%

John McCain (i) (R) - 40%
Fred DuVal (D) - 36%

John McCain (i) (R) - 42%
Ann Kirkpatrick (D) - 36%

John McCain (i) (R) - 42%
Krysten Sinema (D) - 36%

 

[Draggon]

I liked what Mike Huckabee said today, something like this: "political service is a temporary commitment, its not meant to be a permanent career with a pension and benefits not available to normal Americans"

 

[Johnnypenso]

I like what Smilin' Joe Biden said today. "Now just relax while I engage in some uninvited touching that I can get away with because I'm the Vice-Potus"

 

[F1jocker12]

I liked what Mike Huckabee said today, something like this: "political service is a temporary commitment, its not meant to be a permanent career with a pension and benefits not available to normal Americans"

This dude is THE MAN

As governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee aggressively pushed for the early release of a convicted rapist despite being warned by numerous women that the convict had sexually assaulted them or their family members, and would likely strike again. The convict went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.

Confidential Arkansas state government records, including letters from these women, revealed publicly for the first time, directly contradict the version of events now being put forward by Huckabee.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

 

[Johnnypenso]

I liked what Mike Huckabee said today, something like this: "political service is a temporary commitment, its not meant to be a permanent career with a pension and benefits not available to normal Americans"

That is a nice sentiment but not necessarily practical for anyone but the financially independent. Most people don't start out running for Congress, that start at the local or state level, and seeing as how we all have to pay the bills, most of us don't have the option of just opting out of our usual careers so we can go play in politics for a decade or so.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Poll Alert
Source: Real Clear Politics

Republican Nomination

Democrat Nomination

Congressional Approval
Source: CBS/NYT

Approve: 12%
Disapprove: 80%
Undecided: 7%

Presidential Approval

Gallup: 47-49 Disapprove
CBS/NYT: 45-44 Approve
Rasmussen: 49-50 Disapprove

Direction of the Country
Source: CBS/NYT

Right Direction:; 31
Wrong Direction: 60

 

[Sanji Himura]

Poll Alert
Source: Real Clear Politics


Not much today. The Democrat side of the Iowa Caucus poll done by Quinnipiac that was taken yesterday was made available for public consumption. The results are in the image below:

Bernie Sanders, though trailing by 45 points, floats around in second. This does not, obviously enough, take into account for Elizabeth Warren, who has not made a formal commitment to her candidacy (She is at the Draft Ted Cruz stage of her campaign).

Meanwhile, some new numbers came in on the President's job approval. Gallup has the President's job disapproval number drop a couple of points, well enough to have a 48-47 in favor of approval. Rasmussen has the President dropping a couple of points to a 47-51 Disapproval rating.

That's it for today.

 

[mustafur]

Clinton vs anyone the election looks like at this stage.

I wonder if the Libertarians with better knowledge of the Delegation process that Supported Ron will do so with Rand.

 

[Touring Mars]

Ron Paul's run last time around was instructive... his online support was extremely misleading; in reality he had no chance, and I think Rand Paul will similarly struggle. Rand has a major problem - in order to persuade rank and file Republicans, he needs to compromise - that's something Ron Paul didn't do - hence why he was so admired by those disillusioned with the GOP/two-horse race scenario. Rand doesn't have that 'ideological purity' and is caught between positioning himself as a 'new kind of Republican' and 'enough of a Republican to be taken seriously by the party'. That's what is commonly known as trying to put a square peg into a round hole - and it very likely isn't going to work.

 

[FoolKiller]

I wonder if the Libertarians with better knowledge of the Delegation process that Supported Ron will do so with Rand.

I was listening to the Tom Woods (a big supporter of Ron) podcast and he and his guest basically started wondering why Rand was even trying, unless he intended to compromise his message, which they say they think he already did on Iran.

Even if Rand Paul can when nomination I think half his father's supporters will vote for a third party candidate. I can honestly say that I don't know if I would vote for him, as some of the things I liked best about Ron have not been displayed by Rand.

 

[F1jocker12]

Clinton vs anyone the election looks like at this stage.

I wonder if the Libertarians with better knowledge of the Delegation process that Supported Ron will do so with Rand.

Let's get a little off those dirty politics here...
You thought Wild Bill was naughty with Monica in the oval office?
Well... how about Hillary with Yoko Ono in the '70s?

Yoko Ono when asked about her thoughts about Hillary’s run for the presidency completely took reporters by surprise.

“We had a brief romantic fling when I lived with John in Manhattan and Hillary was studying at Yale, but eventually we lost touch. I am amazed how things are going well for her and wish her the best for her campaign” she told reporters during the press conference.

YOKO ONO: “I HAD AN AFFAIR WITH HILLARY CLINTON IN THE '70s

 

[Touring Mars]

YOKO ONO: “I HAD AN AFFAIR WITH HILLARY CLINTON IN THE '70s

Well there's a mental image I could have lived without.

 

[F1jocker12]

Well there's a mental image I could have lived without.

hahahahahahahaha

 

[F1jocker12]

This dude is crazy serious/dangerous.
"In this clip from the Kelly File, Jeb Bush declares that he still would have invaded Iraq based on the “faulty intelligence” that was available at the time, and that he would still have done it knowing what we know now. It’s a shocking admission that seriously puts his foreign policy credibility into question."


http://rinf.com/alt-news/politics/j...ded-iraq-based-on-lies-just-like-his-brother/

 

[FoolKiller]

Well, we have our two extremes in the primaries.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/241635-rand-paul-threatens-patriot-act-filibuster

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said in an interview published Monday that he will filibuster a reauthorization of provisions within the Patriot Act.

"I'm going to lead the charge in the next couple of weeks as the Patriot Act comes forward," the GOP presidential candidate told the New Hampshire Union Leader. "We will be filibustering. We will be trying to stop it. We are not going to let them run over us. And we are going to demand amendments and we are going to make sure the American people know that some of us at least are opposed to unlawful searches."
On Sunday, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said he would filibuster a short-term extension of the current provisions, which critics say give the government unreasonable surveillance powers.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) has said that he favors a full reauthorization of the measures, but other lawmakers say they would be willing to pass reform legislation.
A short-term extension would give lawmakers more time to sort out their differences beyond the current June 1 deadline for renewing the law.
A filibuster of the Patriot Act provisions could give Paul more visibility as the presidential campaign ramps up. He lists his opposition to the National Security Agency's surveillance programs on the homepage of his website and sells a “NSA Spy Cam Blocker” in his campaign store.
Paul has been behind notable filibusters in the past. He raised his profile in 2013 by filibustering the nomination of CIA Director John Brennan over America’s drone program.

Paul is sticking to his guns on this issue, which will make him standout in the primaries. It's a brave move, standing apart from the party leadership, who also happens to be from your own state.

 

[Johnnypenso]

This dude is crazy serious/dangerous.
"In this clip from the Kelly File, Jeb Bush declares that he still would have invaded Iraq based on the “faulty intelligence” that was available at the time, and that he would still have done it knowing what we know now. It’s a shocking admission that seriously puts his foreign policy credibility into question."


http://rinf.com/alt-news/politics/j...ded-iraq-based-on-lies-just-like-his-brother/

"Faulty intelligence" is hindsight. Easy to be right more than a decade later when you now know the intelligence was faulty. Most of the major western powers in the world (48 to be exact) agreed at the time that the invasion had to take place. More than 70% of elected representatives in the U.S. also voted for the resolution.

Also, in that video you linked, nowhere does he say anything about "knowing what we know now". Do you have a link to that?

 

[F1jocker12]

"Faulty intelligence" is hindsight. Easy to be right more than a decade later when you now know the intelligence was faulty. Most of the major western powers in the world (48 to be exact) agreed at the time that the invasion had to take place. More than 70% of elected representatives in the U.S. also voted for the resolution.

Also, in that video you linked, nowhere does he say anything about "knowing what we know now". Do you have a link to that?

What is Kelly's (the reporter) question again?
His immediate instant answer... "I would!"

 

[High-Test]

Well there's a mental image I could have lived without.

I just died inside. And it sounded like this:

AIEEEEEEEE!

 

[DK]

It looks like Mike Huckabee may have dealt a killer blow to his own campaign: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/mik...tear-him-to-shreds-for-defending-josh-duggar/

 

[Carbonox]

It looks like Mike Huckabee may have dealt a killer blow to his own campaign: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/mik...tear-him-to-shreds-for-defending-josh-duggar/

I sure am shedding so many tears about this.

 

[Touring Mars]

You could say he's Duggared.

 

[Sanji Himura]

It looks like Mike Huckabee may have dealt a killer blow to his own campaign: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/mik...tear-him-to-shreds-for-defending-josh-duggar/

I got to be honest here, I don't think that the point of Huckabee's campaign is to win the nomination, but rather to torpedo Ted Cruz's. If a big name Tea Partyer has a shot at the Republican nomination without compromising his principals, then Ted Cruz is your man. We already have Rand trying to compromise by supporting Mich McConnell in his reelection bid.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Ready to Play the Clinton Shell Game?

Legal loopholes have allowed the Hillary Clinton campaign to avoid disclosing potentially millions of dollars in campaign funds by using her husband's consulting firm, WJC LLC., as a shell company to funnel as much as $50 million in assets to the family during the four years that Hillary served as Secretary of State alone.

Under current federal ethics disclosure rules, a candidate does not have to report assets worth less than $1,000. But the existence of the company demonstrates the complexity of tracking the Clintons' finances as Hillary ramps up her presidential bid.

While Bill's speeches have provided the bulk of the family's income, the former president has sought to branch out into other business ventures in recent years. Little is known about those ventures, and how much money is provided to the family as a result.

The identities of several U.S. and international based companies and foundations that Bill Clinton worked for have been disclosed in Hillary's recent financial report as well as in earlier reports during her tenure as Secretary of State.

Read more about it by way of The Blaze, here:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...l-company-to-funnel-payments-to-bill-clinton/

 

[Dennisch]

The lying pile of frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex, is going to run for the White house job again.

 

[Sanji Himura]

National Review has a piece out on Bernie Sanders' push for a 90% upper tax bracket.

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...tion_type_map=["og.shares"]&action_ref_map=[]