[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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Nope. Cruz enjoys a one delegate lead over Trump according to Real Clear Politics.
RCP gives the 'soft' delegate count, while the formal hard delegate count is slightly different.

edit: Santorum has also pulled out....
 
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It's not about the percentage difference, Trump's campaign claims that Cruz's campaign distributed leaflets warning of "voting violations". How that prompted a panic vote for Cruz I'm not sure, Trump is just shooting a breeze I think.
I know what he is saying. I am just asking him to justify what he is saying.
 
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Well, as a fundamentalist Catholic, he can't use those godless contraptions called "condoms". :lol:

That was pretty hilarious, but Santorum isn't a catholic.


he's a slimy mess, actually
 
OP updated to reflect Rick Santorum's withdraw.

EDIT: Poll Update:

Arizona Senate Race: Sen. John McCain LEADS Democratic Representative Ann Kirkpatrick 38%-37%.

EDIT 2: Rick Santorum endorses Marco Rubio. OP Updated.
 
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I thought it was funny too ... & Santrorum most definitely IS a Catholic.

You can't possibly run for President with such violent and aggressive policy beliefs and be a catholic. That's like saying Mao is a buddhist.
 
This popped up in my Facebook feed today.

Bernie, who is vehemently opposed to voter ID, made claims that Hillary supporters voted multiple times under different names........
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Both parties are claiming voter fraud. We're one state in, and it's turned into a bad basketball game.

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That said, that's the dumbest 🤬 mailer I have ever seen in my entire life, and nobody with the intelligence quotient of a Snickers bar could have fallen for that.
 
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You can't possibly run for President with such violent and aggressive policy beliefs and be a catholic.

One might argue in another thread that violent and aggressive policy beliefs are the very hallmark of fundamental Catholicism. Because they are.
 
Q: When was the last time a new party, something well away from the establishment and the status quo, actually made a proper impression in national elections?

Both the Democratic and Republican parties can trace their lineage to the Democratic-Republican, Whig and Federalist parties which contested the first United States elections. The opposite sides of the same coin analogy runs rather true when it's the same system and same political machines having been in control for more than 200 years.

It seems rather difficult for the two party system to ever become unbalanced given this sort of precedence.
 
The Dixiecrats won electoral college votes in 1948 for Strom Thurmond:
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Further back, Teddy Roosevelt ran for the Progressive Party in 1912 and won 88 electoral votes, placing him 2nd in the electoral college. Those are the two examples of anyone outside the "Republicrat" duopoly making an impact in the Presidential election coming to mind right now.
 
I'd forgotten about the Progressive party but it and the Dixiecrats were splits from the Republican and Democrat parties respectively. They're seemingly inescapable.
 
Being against voter ID means somebody necessarily believes that voter fraud is nonexistent?

I'd like to think that we have a community here capable of more intelligent and nuanced thoughts than simplistic false equivalencies like this.
Sometimes I wonder if people are capable of critical thinking. The latter leads into the first. Because the Democrats in general think that there is no voter fraud going on in our elections, there is no need for Voter ID laws either because there is "no voter fraud" or because, to some people, they are racists. Let's look at this from a fresh perspective, shall we?

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Apparently, doing all of the things that you normally need an ID for is NOT racist whereas proving your age to vote is racist. Any Democrats care to try to prove otherwise?
 
Sometimes I wonder if people are capable of critical thinking.

I'd suggest demonstrating that you are capable of it before you declare that the rest of us aren't.

The latter leads into the first. Because the Democrats in general think that there is no voter fraud going on in our elections,

They think that there's zero voter fraud? Or just not enough to warrant a measure that effectively serves as a poll tax? There can be quite a difference between those two views, and I don't believe that your claim that most Democrats hold the former.

This was what I was getting at in your original post - you're being overly simplistic. Which I guess makes sense as you seem to be more interested in posting (decidedly not) clever cartoons than participating in a two-sided conversation.

Let's look at this from a fresh perspective, shall we?

I don't see a single thing on the left side of that chart that is a fundamental, constitutionally-protected right. But by all means, don't let a minor detail like that get in the way of your argument.
 
One might argue in another thread that violent and aggressive policy beliefs are the very hallmark of fundamental Catholicism. Because they are.

That's overstating it a bit don't you think?!

I went to a Catholic school in the UK in the 1960's & '70's & my impression of the Catholic church was influenced by the "Liberation Theology" that grew up in the wake of the remarkable papacy of John XXXIII. I am continually taken aback by the virulently reactionary stance of an important faction of the Catholic church in the US which appears to more closely aligned with the views of conservative evangelical Christians.

What is it that makes the US such fertile ground for reactionary beliefs?
 
Both parties are claiming voter fraud. We're one state in, and it's turned into a bad basketball game.

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That said, that's the dumbest 🤬 mailer I have ever seen in my entire life, and nobody with the intelligence quotient of a Snickers bar could have fallen for that.

You'd be surprised. And we're talking about Iowans here. My grandpa is a genius doctor but he doesn't have common sense to know that all the junk mail and publisher's clearing house things he's gotten throughout his entire life have been B.S.

I think the voterID thing would be easier to take care of if people just paid like five bucks in order to vote. If they can have a progressive income tax, you should be able to buy votes.
 
One might argue in another thread that violent and aggressive policy beliefs are the very hallmark of fundamental Catholicism. Because they are.

:rolleyes: Sure thing, pal. The inquisition was hundreds of years ago. No such thing as a fundamentalist catholic. Actually, maybe that's called a Santorum.
 
One might argue in another thread that violent and aggressive policy beliefs are the very hallmark of fundamental Catholicism. Because they are.

Tripe, do the Catholics not follow; Romans 13, or 1st Peter 2, or 1st Timothy 2?, you know... render to Ceaser and all that Jazz?

Fundamental verses to any Christian I would say.
 
The US primary system really is peculiarly unsystematic. However, with regard to Iowa, the results seem to be pretty squarely a tie. I can't understand on what basis Clinton supporters would claim a "victory" - in the context, this would seem to be entirely meaningless.

In the US political system you claim everything as a "victory" until you drop out of the race. Even if you only got 5% of the vote you count it as a victory because you were expecting 2%.
 
Though Hilary would probably be a lot more comfortable with the 95% she probably expected when she announced she was running instead of the 50.1% she's ending up with.
 
Tripe, do the Catholics not follow; Romans 13, or 1st Peter 2, or 1st Timothy 2?, you know... render to Ceaser and all that Jazz?

Fundamental verses to any Christian I would say.
Christians and people of any other religion tend to follow whatever verse fits the current situation best. I've never met a member of any religion that was a particularly better person than anyone else. It doesn't take religion to keep from being an asshole. In my opinion, religion does nothing but fill the gap left when a person isn't capable of reasoning their way through life on their own.
 
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