[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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It's hard to accept the first statement when you post so much from that hard-right (by their own description) "think tank".

I happen to disagree that they are "hard-right", or so described by themselves. They are better described as libertarian, or perhaps paleo-conservative. They are anything but neoconservative or neoliberal. You really should give them some serious consideration.

From their own words:
The Mises Institute, founded in 1982, teaches the scholarship of Austrian economics, freedom, and peace. The liberal intellectual tradition of Ludwig von Mises (1881-1973) and Murray N. Rothbard (1926-1995) guides us. Accordingly, we seek a profound and radical shift in the intellectual climate: away from statism and toward a private property order. We encourage critical historical research, and stand against political correctness. The institute serves students, academics, business leaders, and anyone seeking better understanding of the Austrian school of economics and libertarian political theory.
 
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Speaking of pointy headed liberals,

"I am sure, Mr. President, after having uttered these words some will criticize such a decision and say it was nothing more than an attempt to save the seat on the Court in the hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it, but that would not be our intention, Mr. President, if that were the course to choose in the Senate to not consider holding hearings until after the election. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over. That is what is fair to the nominee and is central to the process. Otherwise, it seems to me, Mr. President, we will be in deep trouble as an institution."

Vice President (then Senator) Smilin' Joe Biden, June 25, 1992.

I wonder what political double talk he'd use to show that it's "different" now that it's his party in the driver's seat and not the nasty GOP as it was in 1992.
 
Speaking of pointy headed liberals,

"I am sure, Mr. President, after having uttered these words some will criticize such a decision and say it was nothing more than an attempt to save the seat on the Court in the hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it, but that would not be our intention, Mr. President, if that were the course to choose in the Senate to not consider holding hearings until after the election. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over. That is what is fair to the nominee and is central to the process. Otherwise, it seems to me, Mr. President, we will be in deep trouble as an institution."

Vice President (then Senator) Smilin' Joe Biden, June 25, 1992.

I wonder what political double talk he'd use to show that it's "different" now that it's his party in the driver's seat and not the nasty GOP as it was in 1992.

Good ol' Joe

Stand up Chuck!
 
Court is back in session now, they've had their tribute so to speak, so now maybe the debate will begin. I don't think it will matter as the congress has enough votes on the right to keep the seat open.
 
During my current recovery from flu, this night I had a long fever dream in which I took a trip to a heartland factory town where an alien virus had begun an unstoppable and inevitable takeover of the whole nation - maybe the world. The virus begins with little blobs of foam morphing into cute pet-like creatures, then huge, playful monsters as well as edible, ever-growing vegetable-like substances. Existence and its problems are suddenly redefined as irreversibly *solved* in an unexpected way. Upon wakening, I realize this is an allegory of Trumpism.

I need more codeine now, and back to bed.
 
To be fair, has he said anything of recent though as far as what he would do?

No, something that's nearly twenty years old should be fine.

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He's not giving an opinion on a war started with faulty information since corrected or some social issue where we weren't mature enough to fully grasp the scope or depth of the problem at the time. It's a point of political principle based on his then more than 2 decades of experience at the national level. I don't see why his point of view would be different now, other than the obvious reason that his side won't benefit from acting on the same principle he so eloquently advocated when it suited his cause.
 
He's not giving an opinion on a war started with faulty information since corrected or some social issue where we weren't mature enough to fully grasp the scope or depth of the problem at the time. It's a point of political principle based on his then more than 2 decades of experience at the national level. I don't see why his point of view would be different now, other than the obvious reason that his side won't benefit from acting on the same principle he so eloquently advocated when it suited his cause.
Yeah I was just making sure something hadn't slid past me while away for the weekend. I hadn't recalled hearing anything from the mouth of Joe, but among others oh yes...
 
Speaking of pointy headed liberals,

"I am sure, Mr. President, after having uttered these words some will criticize such a decision and say it was nothing more than an attempt to save the seat on the Court in the hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it, but that would not be our intention, Mr. President, if that were the course to choose in the Senate to not consider holding hearings until after the election. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over. That is what is fair to the nominee and is central to the process. Otherwise, it seems to me, Mr. President, we will be in deep trouble as an institution."

Vice President (then Senator) Smilin' Joe Biden, June 25, 1992.

I wonder what political double talk he'd use to show that it's "different" now that it's his party in the driver's seat and not the nasty GOP as it was in 1992.

Here's the thing about situations where both sides are being hypocritical, but you only call out one side for it: you look silliest of them all.
 
What the hell does the shape of a cranium have to do with political leanings?
 
What the hell does the shape of a cranium have to do with political leanings?

Everyone knows that the pointier your head the more you tend to lean to the left. Right-leaning people have very smooth heads by comparison. This is common knowledge.

Speaking of pointy headed liberals,

"I am sure, Mr. President, after having uttered these words some will criticize such a decision and say it was nothing more than an attempt to save the seat on the Court in the hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it, but that would not be our intention, Mr. President, if that were the course to choose in the Senate to not consider holding hearings until after the election. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over. That is what is fair to the nominee and is central to the process. Otherwise, it seems to me, Mr. President, we will be in deep trouble as an institution."

Vice President (then Senator) Smilin' Joe Biden, June 25, 1992.

I wonder what political double talk he'd use to show that it's "different" now that it's his party in the driver's seat and not the nasty GOP as it was in 1992.

I'm sure both sides can be quoted saying that off and on throughout the years depending on when their party would benefit from that position. Taking a step back though... it's wrong. Politicians should stop ignoring their jobs during "the political season" which is all seasons, and do what the taxpayers are paying them to do and voted for them to do. This notion that politicians can spend all of their time and energy campaigning has gotten insane.

(Though I could make a good argument that a campaigning politician is doing the least harm.)
 
(Though I could make a good argument that a campaigning politician is doing the least harm.)

Possibly, but like a wayward dog, it tends to leave a lot of fertilizer on folks' lawns.
 
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