[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016
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There are allegations breaking out on Twitter that people are voting twice in Nevada tonight thanks to election officials not checking IDs. One such person was reported to have voted for Trump twice.
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Well in Trumps worlds due to vote inflation that's about right, so it is fair game. Plus voting for Trump twice is quite classy, Trump would vote for himself at least five times before being caught. It's one of those "what would Donald do?" moments.
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- mustafur
The same thing happened with Hillary, as well as videos of unregistered voters.
Caucus has to be removed it's soo outdated and never ends up fair.
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And I don't see why a man should be expected to remain true to a decades-old opinion based on the cynical assumption that any change would only be to benefit his party and without any attempt to determine whether or not he still believes it.
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The Republican party is in the act destroying itself. Their frontrunner is a former Democrat and still harbors many liberal sentiments, instincts and even policies, insofar as he has enunciated any. Many liberals, even Hollywood elites, are delighted, and in the secrecy of the voting booth will pull the lever that leaves the GOP in shards. Joe would make a great addition to Trump's administration, as he has great relations with what will undoubtedly remain a Democrat controlled congress.
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- Johnnypenso
Either Smilin' Joe really believed what he said back then in which case it's a point of political principle and there's no reason why that particular point would change over a couple of decades. He had 30 years to come up with it back then so if he was sincere in his belief of that principle there's no reason to change it. Or he didn't mean it, it was simply political convenience and now that it's his guy making the appointment as he runs out the door it's ok. Take your pick.
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What we're seeing isn't unprecedented, and that's the problem.
What we see here with this two-party system is political football: except there's a lot more fumbling and punting, and each team blames the other for their shortcomings. If other industries were as ineffective as this, we'd really be in trouble, and I'd bet our careers wouldn't make it through a single term.
This why nothing's going to change. This is why I don't really care anymore. They're just crummy actors.
Rant over.
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I think it's god damned stupid that the GOP is so determined to extend the Lame Duck session from about 4 months to over a year when I'm doubting they will win the Presidency anyway, but why would Biden grow out of that particular form of political maneuvering? This isn't something like supporting his old stances on drug incarceration, which could be chalked up to how views were at the time.
Obama's administration is loaded with senators in high positions of power (Obama, Kerry, Hilary and Diamond Joe himself) who tried to filibuster Alito for reasoning that ultimately looked like nothing more than "because Bush nominated him". And that wasn't in 1992. That was in 2006.
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- mustafur
Who is to bet then Republicans will introduce a system similar to Democrats with Super delegates when an ''Establishment'' Candidate didn't win the nomination.
Trump has won this, his leads are only getting stronger and the establishment is backing someone who is having to compete with 2 others for votes that could possibly go to him if they dropped out.
Ill still leave an element of Doubt with Super Tuesday, but since the process is heavily Southern dominated at the early stages it's going to appeal to Trump more and more.
Also have to state that Bernies Nomination is being hurt massively by a lack of Black voters support, and going to the southern states first where Democrat voters are either predominately black or they are a large portion of voters, it is looking to ruin his momentum which he can solidify a strong advantage in the Northern and Liberal states, ofcourse im saying this before the South Corolina Primary but it isn't looking good.
If Bernie can reign in on the Black vote he can win this easily, still find this hugely ironic considering Clintons Incredibly Racist History which only started to slow down until Bills Term was finished.
Trump has won this, his leads are only getting stronger and the establishment is backing someone who is having to compete with 2 others for votes that could possibly go to him if they dropped out.
Ill still leave an element of Doubt with Super Tuesday, but since the process is heavily Southern dominated at the early stages it's going to appeal to Trump more and more.
Also have to state that Bernies Nomination is being hurt massively by a lack of Black voters support, and going to the southern states first where Democrat voters are either predominately black or they are a large portion of voters, it is looking to ruin his momentum which he can solidify a strong advantage in the Northern and Liberal states, ofcourse im saying this before the South Corolina Primary but it isn't looking good.
If Bernie can reign in on the Black vote he can win this easily, still find this hugely ironic considering Clintons Incredibly Racist History which only started to slow down until Bills Term was finished.
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It's far too late for the Republicans to change their rules on superdelegates, though they might do for the next election cycle. But that's unlikely since Trump will be leader of the GOP.
It will be Trump vs Clinton in '16, barring an assassination for him or indictment for her. It's time to wrap our heads around this.
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I was implying for next time, they obviously can't change the rules now.
Super Tuesday will give us the best idea where everyone is though, as the delegates given out monsters what has been given already.
You have to keep in mind though, Democrats need double the amount of delegates then the republicans to secure the nomination, so the process will be longer naturally, unless Sanders gets wiped out after super Tuesday.
If Sanders can stay within 15% of Hillary after super Tuesday he will be able to hammer his Northern Advantage pretty easily.
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Black and Hispanic Democrats are more likely to see themselves as "moderate" than white Democrats:
Just as with white voters, the concerns of Hispanic and black voters are mostly economic. There's an ongoing thread (nearly three days old, and it's Reddit so I might as well leave a NSFW language warning) in /r/NeutralPolitics on why Sanders isn't doing so well amongst ethnic minorites if you want to read more. /u/20_TwentyTwo's comment (NSFW language) and the thread that followed pretty much summed up why black people prefer the Clintons. Despite Bernie's involvement in the civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s, there's a conspicuous gap in his record on black issues in the 80s and 90s during the Reagan administration and its aftermath, which took a toll on black communities through trickle-down economics and cutting social programs.
Just as with white voters, the concerns of Hispanic and black voters are mostly economic. There's an ongoing thread (nearly three days old, and it's Reddit so I might as well leave a NSFW language warning) in /r/NeutralPolitics on why Sanders isn't doing so well amongst ethnic minorites if you want to read more. /u/20_TwentyTwo's comment (NSFW language) and the thread that followed pretty much summed up why black people prefer the Clintons. Despite Bernie's involvement in the civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s, there's a conspicuous gap in his record on black issues in the 80s and 90s during the Reagan administration and its aftermath, which took a toll on black communities through trickle-down economics and cutting social programs.
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Well she isn't getting away with all of it, this happened today and even though past rallies have just gone in just to disturb the candidates speeches, this one actually questioned her past: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/clinton-black-lives-matter-south-carolina_us_56ce53b1e4b03260bf7580ca
@DK to be fair on him the 80s he was Mayor of Burlington in the 90s he was senator so then he had the ability to be back in the spotlight and he made it clear on everything, Clintons expansion of war on drugs, the crime bills that give harsher punishments to non violent offenders etc, it's all on YouTube.
@DK to be fair on him the 80s he was Mayor of Burlington in the 90s he was senator so then he had the ability to be back in the spotlight and he made it clear on everything, Clintons expansion of war on drugs, the crime bills that give harsher punishments to non violent offenders etc, it's all on YouTube.
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Political Science Professor: Odds Of President Trump Range BETWEEN 97% AND 99%
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/p...-trump-range-between-97-and-99/#ixzz41CuJAhSK
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/24/p...-trump-range-between-97-and-99/#ixzz41CuJAhSK
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Hillary is the Darth Vader of politics....
http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/02/hillary-clintons-speech-to-goldman-sachs-june-4-2013/
"Millions of working sad-sack Americans have similar fantasies. They want more money. More pay. Decent wages for hard work. They think it grows on trees. They think that money will grow and nuzzle up to them in their sleep, when they have no money-appeal. They think they can tax Other People’s Money to get what they want. They don’t realize Money has to be jacked up the ass, stuck in the veins with meth, dragged out and pimped to make more! You have figured out how to make your money work, turned it into a profit-generating prostitute! The future expected earnings of a profit-generating prostitute! That you’ve shorted! These people, idiots, all of them, they expect money to come to them! Without scheming! By working hard and being good! Like puppies and ponies! Like flowers after a downpour! Like the lilies of the valley! Like utopian visions of a drug-addled Marxist!"
http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/02/hillary-clintons-speech-to-goldman-sachs-june-4-2013/
"Millions of working sad-sack Americans have similar fantasies. They want more money. More pay. Decent wages for hard work. They think it grows on trees. They think that money will grow and nuzzle up to them in their sleep, when they have no money-appeal. They think they can tax Other People’s Money to get what they want. They don’t realize Money has to be jacked up the ass, stuck in the veins with meth, dragged out and pimped to make more! You have figured out how to make your money work, turned it into a profit-generating prostitute! The future expected earnings of a profit-generating prostitute! That you’ve shorted! These people, idiots, all of them, they expect money to come to them! Without scheming! By working hard and being good! Like puppies and ponies! Like flowers after a downpour! Like the lilies of the valley! Like utopian visions of a drug-addled Marxist!"
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As much as I dislike Hillary that looks way too insane to be true, but then again her History in Politics makes me believe that it's possible.
Given the Whole Speech was held in Private and by a Corporation that pays her Millions so you know chances of this leaving the stage are nearly zero, I would expect her tone to be alot different, but this??
Has anyone Claimed it to be true?
Edit: I found this: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969
However that is for an October 2013 speech so it's not the same one, their Claims say obvious sidings with the bankers but much more moderate then that ''leaked'' speech.
Given the Whole Speech was held in Private and by a Corporation that pays her Millions so you know chances of this leaving the stage are nearly zero, I would expect her tone to be alot different, but this??
Has anyone Claimed it to be true?
Edit: I found this: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969
However that is for an October 2013 speech so it's not the same one, their Claims say obvious sidings with the bankers but much more moderate then that ''leaked'' speech.
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@GTPorsche: Well to be honest, that couldn't be further from the truth. Democrat doublespeak is very strong with Hillary.
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Denying the facts.... Who would've thought..
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Just let it continue to be delusional.
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I'd like to see his methodology, which for some reason is not forthcoming in either that article or the original article it quotes.
Also, a war of words has broken out between Mitt Romney and Trump over the latter's tax returns, with Romney claiming there's a "bombshell" hidden within them, implying that Trump's either dodging taxes or his business empire isn't doing as well as he claims.
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