[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016
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- Johnnypenso
They'll go where the money is obviously. If it's still more profitable to be in Mexico they'll stay there and pay the tariff. If not, they'll come back and pay American workers. Whether it can actually be done without trashing NAFTA completely and throwing foreign relations and foreign trade into a tailspin is a whole different matter.
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Trump can be Trump all he wants. He won't be able to force GM, Chrysler and Ford to close their Mexican assembly lines and (especially) powertrain factories and go back to UAW-run ones in the US, which is specifically what he is angling for.
Ford is currently halfway through building a humongous factory in Mexico right now.
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the both ya
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It's entirely possible. Possible. But looking at the probabiltiy scale, they're more likely to be looking back in 8 years and think... what have they done?
NASA's Mars mission ended with an airlock failure and the record for the furthest distance between corpses and earth was established, diplomacy in the Middle East sunk to an unprecedented low due to the Israel-ISIS war and the Hondyotassan Leafriusight became the best selling car of all time.
Thanks, Trump.
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- mustafur
Yeah, and his campaign follows that perfectly, anyone with an ounce of intellectual capability can see atleast 50% of what he says is completely hot air, whilst the rest looks increasingly complicated beyond his explation on how to implement.
His foreign policy for example suggests he isn't going to deal with it mostly and hand that off to someone else.
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Which, funnily enough, is the whole point in having a Secretary of State; someone to whom you entrust foreign affairs.
"The President" is only supposed to be the first amongst equals, "presiding" over meetings of the cabinet, but I'm not sure exactly where it deviated from that and became perceived as an outright executive role.
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This isnt a reason against the wall, its just an empty statement, like again, a balloon with hot air.
America has mexican problems exported to usa, so they can pay. As far as Trump is concerned im not a supporter but this issue I have to agree with trump. I agree with different ideas across spectrum of politics and not a cookie cutter gop or dem program. We have here in USA 2 types of cookie. In the EU countries its more parties to choose from. US citizens are tired of two types, they want more perhaps.
As far as cheap stuff, iphones, smartphones, etc are cheap because of human rights issues, it is what it is. America, chokes a bit on its social standards (min wage, min working age, etc)... old old talking points dating back a long ways here, back when europe was still a basket case. Conservative talking points are so old here as are progressive its amazing.
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- mustafur
Whilst true, his lack of any understanding is high, it's at Bush levels.
And we all know how much Cheney was the real leader in that regard.
I would be more interested on who he will have alongside him rather then himself as that will likely dictate what kind of candidate he is going to be.
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Where did I say they should or shouldn't that's not at question. It's like having a knee jerk reaction cause someone shot down the idea, when in reality this is obviously more to do with than just immigration control.
Also what do you know of Fox, before you do a in depth case study called google? Cause that last bit sounds like babble.
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Chomsky say that Trump electoral success is because angry white people but guess what? He's dead wrong. What Chomsky don't get is that Americans have been screwed by 2 President's, especially one that promised change so and a political system based around establishment politics e.g. the indifference between Republicans and Democrats.
So yes the electorate is angry just not for the reasons he's saying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...y-white-mortality_us_56cf8618e4b0bf0dab31838f
On immigration I don't agree with Trump 100% on the issue though some arguments he makes are partially correct when you consider the fact that ever since the 60's America's immigration policy have been based more on importing welfare recipients(and not just from mexico); the only reason why liberals/progressives have been attacking him is simply because he's raising an issue they are scared of talking about.
As for his foreign policy, as from Rand he's the only that seem to be agreement with Ron Paul on whole set issue from the protection racket that America run to our meddling in the middle.
Yes he's not 100% Ron Paul on foreign policy, but Trump's foreign policy seem more line with that of the Old Right.
So yes the electorate is angry just not for the reasons he's saying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...y-white-mortality_us_56cf8618e4b0bf0dab31838f
On immigration I don't agree with Trump 100% on the issue though some arguments he makes are partially correct when you consider the fact that ever since the 60's America's immigration policy have been based more on importing welfare recipients(and not just from mexico); the only reason why liberals/progressives have been attacking him is simply because he's raising an issue they are scared of talking about.
As for his foreign policy, as from Rand he's the only that seem to be agreement with Ron Paul on whole set issue from the protection racket that America run to our meddling in the middle.
Yes he's not 100% Ron Paul on foreign policy, but Trump's foreign policy seem more line with that of the Old Right.
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Please explain: why on earth would American policy be based on "importing welfare recipients"?
Liberals/progressives attack Trump because he's a loud mouthed, arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic, racist, sexist buffoon. Most American liberals I have spoken to are more scared of a Cruz presidency than a Trump presidency, but the prospect of a Trump presidency raises the embarrassment quotient to a new, excruciating level.
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I was speaking about the American liberals I know Dotini. It's hard to know what Trump would actually do if elected - his most outspoken position is on immigration & I suspect this is what has drawn the most support towards him. Other than the Wall, it's hard to know exactly what Trump stands for. Cruz & Rubio are attacking him for not being a true conservative, more a conservative-of-convenience, which seems a reasonable assessment. I think liberals are more scared by the unequivocal right-wing positions of Cruz & (to a lesser extent) Rubio. But the possibility of Trump as President is an appalling prospect to many Americans.
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