[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[TenEightyOne]

Cruz and Rubio are also Republicans.

I think what @Johnnypenso was referring to was that a certain part of core NASCAR fans can be perceived as rather brash, outspoken types who may identify well with Trump... at least that's how I read it.

 

[Swagger897]

Cruz and Rubio are also Republicans.

You think NASCAR is going to support a 2nd or 3rd place candidate?

 

[GTPorsche]

Cruz and Rubio aren't winning right now. No point in endorsing them.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I think what @Johnnypenso was referring to was that a certain part of core NASCAR fans can be perceived as rather brash, outspoken types who may identify well with Trump... at least that's how I read it.

Has the WWE endorsed yet?

 

[Johnnypenso]

Given a majority of their demographic.

I don't follow Nascar so you'll have to explain it in layman's terms. And why is it not surprising that it's Trump in particular and not Rubio or Cruz? Isn't Cruz a Texan and isn't Nascar popular in Texas?

 

[squadops]

It's a good ol boy sort of thing. Trump is as close as it gets I guess, I'd have to think they also indorsed W which would be a better example.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I don't follow Nascar so you'll have to explain it in layman's terms. And why is it not surprising that it's Trump in particular and not Rubio or Cruz? Isn't Cruz a Texan and isn't Nascar popular in Texas?

Not sure why he tagged you but pretty much this:

I think what @Johnnypenso was referring to was that a certain part of core NASCAR fans can be perceived as rather brash, outspoken types who may identify well with Trump... at least that's how I read it.

 

[Swagger897]

I don't follow Nascar so you'll have to explain it in layman's terms. And why is it not surprising that it's Trump in particular and not Rubio or Cruz? Isn't Cruz a Texan and isn't Nascar popular in Texas?

Sunbelt states hold the majority of the demographics, which when looking at a republican/democrat demo, sunbelt holds the same picture..

 

[1241Penguin]

"Trump secretly a leftist all along!" - Cruz, probably.

I snorted.

 

[Sanji Himura]

I snorted.

Actually that is probably true. From 1984 to 2011, he contributed $600,000 largely to New York candidates with 2/3rds going to Democrats (though a notable exception is when Harry Reid was reelected to the Senate in 2010. He contributed $2,400 to Harry Reid.) From 2011 onward, he donated nearly exclusively to Republicans. His justification: The cost of doing business in New York.

Source 1

Source 2

Also from 1984 (maybe 1980), he switched party affiliation 5 times, most recently in 2012.

 

[Biggles]

On the other hand his entire life has been spent putting together and rebuilding financial empires through negotiation, wheeling and dealing, making comprimises, working with people from a broad political and cultural sprectrum and enriching the pocketbooks of others along with himself.

I'm not sure why you think this qualifies him to be a good POTUS. There are many people who are successful in one sphere of life but complete assholes in every other respect.

Trump had the benefit of a very privileged start in life & inherited wealth & real estate business savvy from his father. He may have gone on to be a skilled real estate developer - I don't hold bankruptcies & partial business failures against him, they are inevitable parts of pursuing that kind of business. It also doesn't really bother me that he has been inconsistent in his political leanings.

The problem with Trump is his personality: his narcissism is so extreme it's almost pathological & suggests some deep-rooted insecurity. I've heard him described as an "alpha-male". I just don't see it. What kind of alpha-male feels the need to create one of the most ludicrous comb-overs in history? An alpha-male feels confident in who he is without being overly concerned about appearances. An alpha male doesn't feel the need to marry a succession of younger women as "trophy wives". Some classic indications of a narcissist:

• Bragging and exaggerating achievements
• Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
• Pretending to be important than they really are
  
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  
• Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
  
• Detesting those who do not admire them
• A lack of psychological awareness
  
• Haughty body language
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  
• Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
  
• Problems distinguishing the self from others

Etc. etc.

True enough other politicians may have similar tendencies, but I've never seen anyone even close to being as extreme as Trump. He's like a caricature of himself. Among other things, he's claimed to be a great athlete, to know more about the military than professional soldiers, belittled senator McCain for being captured, insulted fellow GOP candidates when they challenge him, insulted the press when they challenge him, insulted Mexicans & the Chinese while professing to "love" them & (of course) to being loved by them. How anyone can take the guy seriously is beyond me.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Get use to is, cause in 2020 you'll just have the Black version of it if Kanye is as serious as he keeps putting on. And really when you stop and think about it are the two really that different in attitude and exposure in how they get their ventures noticed (either annoyingly or not they do get noticed).

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I'm not sure why you think this qualifies him to be a good POTUS. There are many people who are successful in one sphere of life but complete assholes in every other respect.

Trump had the benefit of a very privileged start in life & inherited wealth & real estate business savvy from his father. He may have gone on to be a skilled real estate developer - I don't hold bankruptcies & partial business failures against him, they are inevitable parts of pursuing that kind of business. It also doesn't really bother me that he has been inconsistent in his political leanings.

The problem with Trump is his personality: his narcissism is so extreme it's almost pathological & suggests some deep-rooted insecurity. I've heard him described as an "alpha-male". I just don't see it. What kind of alpha-male feels the need to create one of the most ludicrous comb-overs in history? An alpha-male feels confident in who he is without being overly concerned about appearances. An alpha male doesn't feel the need to marry a succession of younger women as "trophy wives". Some classic indications of a narcissist:

• Bragging and exaggerating achievements
• Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
• Pretending to be important than they really are
  
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  
• Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
  
• Detesting those who do not admire them
• A lack of psychological awareness
  
• Haughty body language
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  
• Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
  
• Problems distinguishing the self from others

Etc. etc.

True enough other politicians may have similar tendencies, but I've never seen anyone even close to being as extreme as Trump. He's like a caricature of himself. Among other things, he's claimed to be a great athlete, to know more about the military than professional soldiers, belittled Senator McCain for being captured, insulted fellow GOP candidates when they challenge him, insulted the press when they challenge him, insulted Mexicans & the Chinese while professing to "love" them & (of course) to being loved by them. How anyone can take the guy seriously is beyond me.

Thank you Dr. Biggles for your expert diagnoses, but we got it the first time.

Meanwhile in Massachusetts.

Amid Trump surge, nearly 20,000 Mass. voters quit Democratic party

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I will say out of all those who will leave if Trump wins, I'll only miss Sam Jackson, but he can film movies outside the states so it wont be too bad. Everyone else I couldn't care less, especially many of those who have worked for the View that will leave. (They wont, well Sharpton probably will, but the others...nah)

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I will say out of all those who will leave if Trump wins, I'll only miss Sam Jackson, but he can film movies outside the states so it wont be too bad. Everyone else I couldn't care less, especially many of those who have worked for the View that will leave. (They wont, well Sharpton probably will, but the others...nah)

Sharpton makes a good living in his poverty pimp business. He won't leave. I doubt he could find a gig like that anywhere else in the world.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Sharpton makes a good living in his poverty pimp business. He won't leave. I doubt he could find a gig like that anywhere else in the world.

He could try it in war torn Africa, they're always looking for Rev. just not in the way he'd probably like.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Not sure why he tagged you but pretty much this:

So brash and outspoken people will support Trump? So then you'd say that the BLM people would support Trump then? Or is there some characteristic of the Nascar people that distinguish them from the BLM people that would make one vote for Trump and not the other.

I will say out of all those who will leave if Trump wins, I'll only miss Sam Jackson, but he can film movies outside the states so it wont be too bad. Everyone else I couldn't care less, especially many of those who have worked for the View that will leave. (They wont, well Sharpton probably will, but the others...nah)

You don't really believe anyone is going to leave do you?

I'm not sure why you think this qualifies him to be a good POTUS. There are many people who are successful in one sphere of life but complete assholes in every other respect.

Trump had the benefit of a very privileged start in life & inherited wealth & real estate business savvy from his father. He may have gone on to be a skilled real estate developer - I don't hold bankruptcies & partial business failures against him, they are inevitable parts of pursuing that kind of business. It also doesn't really bother me that he has been inconsistent in his political leanings.

The problem with Trump is his personality: his narcissism is so extreme it's almost pathological & suggests some deep-rooted insecurity. I've heard him described as an "alpha-male". I just don't see it. What kind of alpha-male feels the need to create one of the most ludicrous comb-overs in history? An alpha-male feels confident in who he is without being overly concerned about appearances. An alpha male doesn't feel the need to marry a succession of younger women as "trophy wives". Some classic indications of a narcissist:

• Bragging and exaggerating achievements
• Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
• Pretending to be important than they really are
  
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  
• Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
  
• Detesting those who do not admire them
• A lack of psychological awareness
  
• Haughty body language
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
  
• Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
  
• Problems distinguishing the self from others

Etc. etc.

True enough other politicians may have similar tendencies, but I've never seen anyone even close to being as extreme as Trump. He's like a caricature of himself. Among other things, he's claimed to be a great athlete, to know more about the military than professional soldiers, belittled Senator McCain for being captured, insulted fellow GOP candidates when they challenge him, insulted the press when they challenge him, insulted Mexicans & the Chinese while professing to "love" them & (of course) to being loved by them. How anyone can take the guy seriously is beyond me.

I don't recall saying he'd be a good President.

 

[Dotini]

 

[BobK]

A friend of mine and his wife just got back from voting in the primary and sent me this txt:

Well today we went and picked the cleanest turd from the bucket.

 

[Biggles]

Thank you Dr. Biggles for your expert diagnoses

You're welcome. Dr. Biggles ... that has a nice ring to it. 💡

I've got to admit: that is an awesome graphic. It would make perfect sense if 1) Trump wasn't The Donald, & 2) wasn't running as a Republican, & 3) his appeal wasn't based on saying the kind of things that he says.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I've got to admit: that is an awesome graphic. It would make perfect sense if 1) Trump wasn't The Donald, & 2) wasn't running as a Republican, & 3) his appeal wasn't based on saying the kind of things that he says.

It works on a heraldic level though, neatly conveys his immigration heritage.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

You don't really believe anyone is going to leave do you?

If you read the end I acknowledge my statement was a sarcastic hit toward those making the claim, and the only real nut job out of them that I can see committing to it would be Sharpton. Even then it's still far fetched. It's just a joke with much of what I post until there isn't a reason to joke about this Circus, and that's usually when someone comes on believing or trying to convince others of the drivel their candidate they support spews.

 

[Joel]

I don't think I've ever heard or read a word Al Sharpton has ever said. What I have seen is tons of people constantly moaning and whining about him as if he were Emperor Palpatine.

 

[Pupik]

I don't think I've ever heard or read a word Al Sharpton has ever said. What I have seen is tons of people constantly moaning and whining about him as if he were Emperor Palpatine.

He ain't no Mace Windu, either.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I don't think I've ever heard or read a word Al Sharpton has ever said. What I have seen is tons of people constantly moaning and whining about him as if he were Emperor Palpatine.

If you think Trump gives you headaches, the read or watch anything Sharpton says or does when a "race inequality" happens. Then you'll see the idiocy between the two isn't so different.

 

[Dotini]

I think Sharpton and Trump have been pals or at least friendly associates for decades. Both of them are accomplished purveyors of puffery and bluster. You may ignore either at your pleasure.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Super Tuesday Calls

Total Delegates at stake: 595 Republican - 865 Democrat


Alabama - 50 Republican Delegates at stake* - 53 Democrat Delegates at stake
*26 of the 50 Delegates are awarded proportionally. If a candidate breaks the 50% threshold, all 26 are awarded to that candidate.

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Alaska Caucuses (Republicans Only) 28 Delegates at stake
*25 delegates are awarded proportionally to candidates who have at least 13% of the vote. The remaining three are the elected state party leaders.

Arkansas 40 Republican Delegates at stake* - 32 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Any candidate receiving 15% of the vote will receive at least one at-large delegate. If any candidate wins 50% of the vote, he would receive all of the remaining at-large delegates. If no candidate reaches 50%, then the pool of at-large delegates is split proportionately among each candidate who surpassed 15% of the vote. In each of the state's four congressional districts, the winner receives two delegates and the runner-up one, unless the winner got more than half the vote, in which case he would win all three delegates. The three other delegates are the elected state party leaders.

9:40 pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Colorado (Democrats Only) 66 Delegates at stake

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT BERNIE SANDERS WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Georgia 76 Republican Delegates at stake* - 102 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Thirty-one delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving more than a fifth of the statewide vote. But if any candidate wins more than half the vote, he gets all 31.

The winner in each of the state's 14 congressional districts will earn two delegates, and the second-place finisher will win one, unless one candidate wins more than 50% in a district.

The remaining three delegates are the elected state party leaders – the chairman, national committeeman and national committeewoman.

FOX NEWS PROJECTS THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS PROJECTS THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Massachusetts 42 Republican Delegates at stake* - 91 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Twelve delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving more than 5% of the statewide vote. The same applies to each of the nine congressional districts, which each award three delegates. The other three delegates are the elected state party leaders.

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

9:40 pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Minnesota Caucuses 38 Republican delegates at stake* - 77 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Eleven at-large delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving 10% of the statewide vote, and three more delegates from each of the eight congressional districts will be awarded on a similar basis. If any candidate receives more than 85% of the statewide vote, he would receive 35 delegates. The final three delegates are elected state party leaders.

10:10 pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT MARCO RUBIO WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUSES!

10:28pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT BERNIE SANDERS WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT CAUCUSES!

Oklahoma 43 Republican Delegates at stake* - 38 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Twenty-five delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving more than 15% of the statewide vote, unless one candidate has more than 50%, in which case he wins all 25. In each of the state's five congressional districts, three delegates will be awarded proportionally to candidates with 15% of the vote, unless, again, one has more than 50% of the vote in that district. If three candidates get 15% of the vote in a congressional district, each receives one delegate. The three other delegates are the elected state party leaders.

8:16 pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT TED CRUZ WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

8:16 pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT BERNIE SANDERS WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Tennessee 58 Republican Delegates at stake* - 67 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Twenty-eight delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving more than 20% of the statewide vote. If one candidate has more than 66% of the vote, he wins all 28 at-large delegates. Three delegates will be awarded in each of the nine congressional districts as follows: a candidate wins all three delegates if he wins 66% of the vote; if the winner and runner-up both have 20% to 66% of the vote, the winner receives two delegates and the runner-up gets one. The three other delegates are the elected state party leaders.

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Texas 155 Republican Delegates at stake* - 222 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Forty-four delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving more than 20% of the statewide vote. Should one candidate win more than half the vote, which is unlikely, he would claim all 44. Three other delegates will be awarded in each of the state’s 36 congressional districts with the same criteria – typically two delegates for the first-place finisher and one for the second-place finisher.

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT TED CRUZ WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Vermont 16 Republican Delegates at stake* - 16 Democrat Delegates at stake
*Ten at-large delegates will be awarded proportionally to any candidate receiving more than 20% of the statewide vote, unless one candidate receives a majority. Three more congressional district delegates will be awarded on the same basis. The final three delegates are the elected state party leaders.

11:00pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT BERNIE SANDERS WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

Virginia 49 Republican Delegates at stake* - 95 Democrat Delegates
*Thirteen at-large delegates and three delegates from each of the 11 congressional districts will be awarded to all candidates proportionally. A final three delegates are the elected state party leaders.

7:33 pm CST: FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WIN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY!

FOX NEWS IS PROJECTING THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY!

 

[Biggles]

It occurred to me that an interesting parallel to what is happening with Trump is what happened with Diana. Yes that Diana, Princess of Wales. When she died, a sort of mass hysteria took over the UK. Like Trump, she was a celebrity who somehow became elevated to a transcendent, symbolic figure embodying the hopes & fears of the masses. She almost brought down the monarchy.

 

[Tornado]

She had nicer hair though.

 

[Sanji Himura]

It occurred to me that an interesting parallel to what is happening with Trump is what happened with Diana. Yes that Diana, Princess of Wales. When she died, a sort of mass hysteria took over the UK. Like Trump, she was a celebrity who somehow became elevated to a transcendent, symbolic figure embodying the hopes & fears of the masses. She almost brought down the monarchy.

True, however, the cult of personality around Trump is hiding skeletons in the closet.