[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?

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I find Judge Napolitano a pretty much balanced and fair individual. He tells the truth even if he does not like it. Sad thing is that many people don't care what Hillary does, or has done, or will do.....they will vote for her simply because she's Hillary.
 
BobK
From @Dotini's article:

I'm pretty sure she does, and worse yet, I'm afraid she may be right.
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Let's get real here. ANY democrat in the oval office is going to pardon the criminal clintons. They've got more skeletons in the closet than that house down the street that goes all-out for halloween.
 
BobK
From @Dotini's article:

I'm pretty sure she does, and worse yet, I'm afraid she may be right.
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We exist in a world where Marion Barry, mayor of Washington, D.C. was caught up in a cocaine scandal, found guilty, sent to jail for six months, where he was accused of sexual misconduct (no charges or definite findings), and made a political comeback to eventually be elected mayor again in less than four years.

Most people don't fully understand what Hilary did wrong, or they don't see what was so bad about it. Or they are die hard supporters and just don't care.
 
Sorry, but according to the Real Clear Politics average, Sanders is down at least 15 points (Linkey here) to Hillary in New Hampshire, and 48 points nationwide (Link here).

The question isn't can the current field overtake Hillary, because it is crystal clear that it can't, but rather can Elizabeth Warren, when she decides to run (not if), do the same. Warren holds a clear advantage over Hillary in that she is from outside the Obama Administration, and can tighten the screws on Hillary's screw ups while Secretary of State.
 
Sanji Himura
Sorry, but according to the Real Clear Politics average, Sanders is down at least 15 points (Linkey here) to Hillary in New Hampshire, and 48 points nationwide (Link here).

The question isn't can the current field overtake Hillary, because it is crystal clear that it can't, but rather can Elizabeth Warren, when she decides to run (not if), do the same. Warren holds a clear advantage over Hillary in that she is from outside the Obama Administration, and can tighten the screws on Hillary's screw ups while Secretary of State.
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Woah there! It's a bit early to be declaring that any candidate can't overtake any other candidate.
 
Danoff
Woah there! It's a bit early to be declaring that any candidate can't overtake any other candidate.
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When looking at poll averages (kindly provided at the link), I can pretty much say that. Joe Biden, and all of his gaffes, won't have a shot because he can't get any form of fund raising started (in other words, he is funding this campaign with his own money). Hillary, even though she is the front runner as we speak and has millions, has too many skeletons in her closet during her time as Secretary of State (remember Bengahzi?) that the media knows all about it, and has been hammered home in Conservative talk radio for years (I still hear about it on at least one radio show or another a day).

But on the other hand, take a look at the Republicans. They have 13 or 14 different candidates (I'm counting Trump in this number, you will see why in a bit), and half of them are Tea-Party backed candidates. So what does that spell for the other half? If you heard the term, "Splitting the Vote", congratulations, you have advanced knowledge of politics of some level. In a "First Past the Post" system such as ours, vote splitting is very common if you have more than one candidate who is more in line with your beliefs, and said vote didn't serve a political advantage to your party. Take Mike Huckabee, for example. His beliefs on religion fall more in line with Rick Santorum, but where the similarites stop and the differences begin is the scope of government in our everyday lives. While one could argue that Ted Cruz and Rand Paul split votes from each other, depending on state, there is only one man on the Republican field that isn't necessarily there to draw votes away from other candidates, Jeb Bush. According to Real Clear Politics Averages, on 6/14, the day before he declared candidacy, a hypothetical poll with him in it as a candidate actually had Bush leading the pack within any perceivable margin of error regardless of poll source (Walker was trailing by 1.5 points in the averages). Fast forward nearly a month, Bush is still leading by 5.8 points over Scott Walker, and it is trending up.
 
Sanji Himura
When looking at poll averages (kindly provided at the link), I can pretty much say that. Joe Biden, and all of his gaffes, won't have a shot because he can't get any form of fund raising started (in other words, he is funding this campaign with his own money). Hillary, even though she is the front runner as we speak and has millions, has too many skeletons in her closet during her time as Secretary of State (remember Bengahzi?) that the media knows all about it, and has been hammered home in Conservative talk radio for years (I still hear about it on at least one radio show or another a day).

But on the other hand, take a look at the Republicans. They have 13 or 14 different candidates (I'm counting Trump in this number, you will see why in a bit), and half of them are Tea-Party backed candidates. So what does that spell for the other half? If you heard the term, "Splitting the Vote", congratulations, you have advanced knowledge of politics of some level. In a "First Past the Post" system such as ours, vote splitting is very common if you have more than one candidate who is more in line with your beliefs, and said vote didn't serve a political advantage to your party. Take Mike Huckabee, for example. His beliefs on religion fall more in line with Rick Santorum, but where the similarites stop and the differences begin is the scope of government in our everyday lives. While one could argue that Ted Cruz and Rand Paul split votes from each other, depending on state, there is only one man on the Republican field that isn't necessarily there to draw votes away from other candidates, Jeb Bush. According to Real Clear Politics Averages, on 6/14, the day before he declared candidacy, a hypothetical poll with him in it as a candidate actually had Bush leading the pack within any perceivable margin of error regardless of poll source (Walker was trailing by 1.5 points in the averages). Fast forward nearly a month, Bush is still leading by 5.8 points over Scott Walker, and it is trending up.
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Where was obama at this point when he was running?
 
I don't think that Hilary will be affected by her SOS activities. She's a Democratic darling. It isn't like Bill didn't have scandals before becoming president. And no matter how much they talk about it I highly doubt conservative talk radio hosts will affect the Democratic Primary, or even many of Hilary's supporters.

Supporters in elections tend to ignore or write-off their candidate's problems, so long as they don't cross some kind of personal line. Even then, some will just ignore it as more crap from the opponents. I know people who still think of Obama as an honest president who doesn't drag us into wars or abuse the American people,
 
I'd vote Sanders. He makes sense.. But then again, he is a politician and says what people want to hear, while there's no guarantee whether he will follow through with his claims and promises if he wins.
 
Leonidae@MFT
But then again, he is a politician and says what people want to hear, while there's no guarantee whether he will follow through with his claims and promises if he wins.
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Don't they all??

edit: but he's probably my pick too... I dunno, republican party is full O' fail right now and don't care for two cents of what Hillary wants to screw up....

And I'm definitely not picking him for the looks either..
 
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So he's like the statist version of Ron Paul?

Never gonna win.
 
The difference between Bernie Sanders and the mainstream is that Bernie Sanders will **** up your life to your face.
 
There just has to be a Redditor with the username "ColonelBernieSanders".
 
These headlines write themselves...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/07/16/handling_the_trump_in_the_room__127408.html

I'm still slightly aghast at how well Trump is doing in the polls, but I think this article gets it right when the author says that Jeb Bush will likely be able to use the presence of Trump to make himself look more presidential - to be fair, next to Donald Trump, just about anybody could look more presidential!

I expect that the current surge in the polls for Trump will fade, but it will be interesting to see how long Trump may linger.
 
Formula1269
Democrats. Cleaning up Republican messes since 1933.;)
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Can you please explain why Bill Clinton enjoyed the greatest last two years of any presidency in the last 25 years, economically speaking with a Republican congress? The answer wasn't in raising taxes, that much is for sure.
 
Touring Mars
These headlines write themselves...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/07/16/handling_the_trump_in_the_room__127408.html

I'm still slightly aghast at how well Trump is doing in the polls, but I think this article gets it right when the author says that Jeb Bush will likely be able to use the presence of Trump to make himself look more presidential - to be fair, next to Donald Trump, just about anybody could look more presidential!

I expect that the current surge in the polls for Trump will fade, but it will be interesting to see how long Trump may linger.
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Trump will linger as long as he has money, time and constituency. His constituency seems to be populists of the right. So until Cruz or one of the others makes a convincing play for this base, we are stuck with the Donald.

If el Chapo succeeds in assassinating Trump, his martyrdom will likely unleash a flood of both D's and R's to inherit a violent and righteous whirlwind going...where?...to parts hitherto unknown.
 
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Touring Mars
These headlines write themselves...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/07/16/handling_the_trump_in_the_room__127408.html

I'm still slightly aghast at how well Trump is doing in the polls, but I think this article gets it right when the author says that Jeb Bush will likely be able to use the presence of Trump to make himself look more presidential - to be fair, next to Donald Trump, just about anybody could look more presidential!

I expect that the current surge in the polls for Trump will fade, but it will be interesting to see how long Trump may linger.
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Not surprising. After all, Donald Trump is a fascist.
 
It'll be a good day when Trump is no longer a top candidate for President.

Now to just wait for the Benghazi scandal to finally hit the fan for Clinton...
 
GTPorsche
It'll be a good day when Trump is no longer a top candidate for President.

Now to just wait for the Benghazi scandal to finally hit the fan for Clinton...
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I suspect that if the emails are all released (with the inevitable redactions) she'll ride it out.
 
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