Polyphony Digital is "Considering" Releasing Gran Turismo on PC

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MagpieRacer
Wrong way round. Sony will be chomping at the bit to do it, PD on the other hand will be the ones who need convincing.
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Honestly I'm not sure. Take Bloodborne for example. It's had gigantic demand for PC ports ever since it released, developer is no stranger to PC release, and it's not like it runs super hot on the system it was intended for nor has there been next-gen upgrade for it. Only thing it needs for it to see a light of day on PC is an "ok" signal from Sony, but somehow that hasn't materialized for over 7 years and counting.

It's nice to hear PD (Yamauch-san at least) is considering, but I just don't know how onboard Sony is with this idea since they've been very selective with which game gets greenlit for PC and which game gets to stay with them. I'd be happy to be proven wrong but please excuse me for being skeptical at this stage.
 
If it went to PC for me there would be no need for a PS5 or any Sony console. I hope Sony does it. Prefer my PC and X series combo.
 
Mariangello
They already have a game heavily dependent on microtransactions, so I wouldn't be surprised if they also released the game on mobile phones.
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Hey, they'd have a lot better chance of harpooning some whales on mobile.

PD, if you happen to read this: release a stripped-down GT7 gatcha game on mobile! Fill it with anime waifu's, make the car tuning process like a 1% chance of success and you need to use real money to buy the gems for the parts, and have 25 obfuscation currencies so that even the smarter players are baffled and just enter their CC info. You'll make way more than you ever have before. Look at Diablo Immortal! Do that, and take a tiny fraction of the proceeds and put it into car licensing and more/better devs to make great games on console and PC, with no MTX chicanery. It's a win-win! You'll line your pockets with gold, we'll get a good game, and the weeb whales on mobile won't care as long as there are anime tiddies aplenty.
 
Mr Fahrenheit
Honestly I'm not sure. Take Bloodborne for example. It's had gigantic demand for PC ports ever since it released, developer is no stranger to PC release, and it's not like it runs super hot on the system it was intended for nor has there been next-gen upgrade for it. Only thing it needs for it to see a light of day on PC is an "ok" signal from Sony, but somehow that hasn't materialized for over 7 years and counting.

It's nice to hear PD (Yamauch-san at least) is considering, but I just don't know how onboard Sony is with this idea since they've been very selective with which game gets greenlit for PC and which game gets to stay with them. I'd be happy to be proven wrong but please excuse me for being skeptical at this stage.
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Uncharted, Last of Us, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man are all on, or announced, for PC. With Ghost of Tsushima heavily rumoured. Bloodborne (along with Gran Turismo) is the notable exception. But that could be down to contract issues with FROM or simply Sony remaking the title in-house.

The real question mark is how Sony will announce their next slate of PC titles. They've stated PC sales will treble next financial year, but have nothing further officially announced. Even Returnal is not official despite leaked screenshots and a Steam listing.
 
Personally, I've never been one to jump into a multiplayer game very late. By the time GT7 were to come around to PC, we'd likely be gearing up for GT8. That's okay in singleplayer games such as God of War or Horizon but I'm not sure how it would pan out for Gran Turismo.

As far as the single player goes, I'm not sure how long PC racing enthusiasts would stay engaged with the abysmal AI.
 
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GT8 or GT Sport 2 would be a far better candidate for the move to PC than in the middle of GT7's content cycle.

Start with a clean slate designed with PC in mind from the very start.
 
GT7 doesn’t offer much that isn’t already available in any of the established PC titles. On top of that Assetto Corsa 2 is out in 2024, and given the low track & car count that would make these 2 direct competitors. And I don't see GT7 winning that one.

The time to do this would have been when it launched everywhere else. The game’s flaws are well documented now. Personally I think it would be insane to pay full price for this game now.

fikridroid
Consoles also superior than PC if you factor the user friendliness aspect
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Downloading and playing a game on PC really isn't that complicated.
 
gordonfreeman
The risk of diminishing game quality? We already see it happening.
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We do? Where?
gordonfreeman
...but you're right, I don't care about more people getting to play if it means we all get a worse experience in the end.
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PC players get no experience at all if they don't get ported. Which seems hard to argue for unless you've solidly established first that these games are so bad that by ensuring that they aren't purchaseable on PC you're saving people from wasting their money on trash.
 
GingerBredMan
GT7 doesn’t offer much that isn’t already available in any of the established PC titles. On top of that Assetto Corsa 2 is out in 2024, and given the low track & car count that would make these 2 direct competitors. And I don't see GT7 winning that one.

The time to do this would have been when it launched everywhere else. The game’s flaws are well documented now. Personally I think it would be insane to pay full price for this game now.
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To be fair, the Gran Turismo series is born to be Simcade as it offers a more forgiving driving model, in order to make it accessible for anyone to play plus a controller pad & racing wheelbase optimization, the same goes with the Forza Motorsport series.

Meanwhile, the Assetto Corsa series is born to be hardcore Sim Racing which features a more realistic driving model, making it even harder to play than Gran Turismo & Forza Motorsport, plus it's more recommended to use a racing wheelbase.
 
Would their egos be able to take the modders fixing all the major things wrong with the game in about 3 days? Better AI plugged in, proper racing formats, qualifying, cars available all the time, good economy/well paying races, fully customisable HUD, a proper full career mode..
 
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GingerBredMan
GT7 doesn’t offer much that isn’t already available in any of the established PC titles.
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It offers nostalgia and the ability to play for long-time players like me who don't want to buy a PS5. I don't really have a use for a console, and while I wouldn't say no to a PS5, there are other things I'd rather spend money on.

As for the other PC titles out there? I've tried Assetto Corsa and Project Cars, and I don't really care for either of them. They're too focused on race cars instead of regular, everyday cars. With Gran Turismo, if I want to drive something like a Suzuki Swift or a Toyota Tundra, I can and I tend to enjoy those vehicles way more than any race car. Yes, I get that with Forza, but having another option would be nice since I don't have a ton of hope for FM8 after how boring FH5 was.
 
Joey D
It offers nostalgia and the ability to play for long-time players like me who don't want to buy a PS5. I don't really have a use for a console, and while I wouldn't say no to a PS5, there are other things I'd rather spend money on.

As for the other PC titles out there? I've tried Assetto Corsa and Project Cars, and I don't really care for either of them. They're too focused on race cars instead of regular, everyday cars. With Gran Turismo, if I want to drive something like a Suzuki Swift or a Toyota Tundra, I can and I tend to enjoy those vehicles way more than any race car. Yes, I get that with Forza, but having another option would be nice since I don't have a ton of hope for FM8 after how boring FH5 was.
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AC only has the reputation it does because of it's modding community to be fair - if you want to drive the assortment of road cars that GT offers, that's what you need to look at.

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I don't know where people are getting the idea that GT7 would automatically be moddable. You know good well it wouldn't be. They don't allow you to do much as it is now with settings (FOV or HUD for example) let alone have free reign through their game.
ACC isn't moddable. Race Room and iRacing isn't moddable. In fact, you can't even pirate a single thing including the game for Race Room or iRacing. I would suspect GT7 would follow suit there. They're going to want their online service crap to work on PC as well I would have to assume.
@Joey D, How have you tried Assetto Corsa and haven't seen you can have thousands of street cars? No one beats it in that category. I probably have around 2000 myself and I'm picky about the content I download. That combined with over a thousand tracks, whether P2P, free roam with traffic, original real life tracks and, fictive tracks with even R246, Dragon Trail, Maggiore, ect. from GT, you have months, even years worth of stuff to try, use and master. I have Suzuki Swifts - plural. I have Toyota Tundras - plural. lol
It truly is remarkable how far and deep it goes in AC these days. Everyday you can download a few new cars and a track here and there it seems. Not every month, everyday. It's wild.

Edit: Hilarious, just talking about Suzuki Swifts and the one on Race Department gets updated just minutes ago. Neat coincidence.

Suzuki Swift Sport HT81S

In 2003, Suzuki added a sports grade to the Swift. This car was called "Swift Sport" (Ignis Sport in the European market). It was inspired by the Ignis Super 1600, which was competing in the JWRC at the time, with wider wheel treads, a 1.5L...
www.racedepartment.com www.racedepartment.com
 
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I want GT 7 on PC
I even think that Gran Turismo needs that
More people play this game more fun for all more feedback more quality ...like that
 
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Samus
Boy do I have some bad news for you about the direction of GT games and the cars...
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Maybe. We haven't even remotely seen the number of cars that will come out for GT7 though. But going by the updates we've received, I don't think PD is going to leave behind the regular cars. I mean I like race cars, but I'd rather build one out of a normal car than be given a pre-built one.
Beezer215
@Joey D, How have you tried Assetto Corsa and haven't seen you can have thousands of street cars?
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This isn't a big list:
www.assettocorsa.it

Assetto Corsa

Assetto Corsa is the most popular racing simulator developed by KUNOS Simulazioni. Come and take a look to features, cars, tracks and more!
www.assettocorsa.it www.assettocorsa.it

It's mostly race cars and supercars with only a handful of run-of-the-mill production vehicles. But as @Nebuc72 said, you need mods to get what you want. While I have no issue with downloading and installing mods in any game, it's kind of a pain at times to find stuff that's good quality. I have hundreds of mods for Farming Simulator, but it took a ton of trial and error to find stuff that works well and weed out the stuff that's garbage. That's been my experience with most games that can be modded.
 
Joey D
This isn't a big list:
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Those are just the Kunos cars.
There's people out here making better quality stuff then what Kunos originally put in. Thousands of it. Not hundreds. Thousands.
While you're right, it takes a little while to find out where the good stuff is coming from and what is considered bad, it's something you can grasp within a month. I was just helping someone out that posted in these very GT7 forums who just bought AC for PC and needed to get started in the vast sea of content. It can be daunting but the community is rather nice (most times) and you'll get pointed in the right direction.
 
I would love to see GT on PC. I'm playing GT7 on PS4 Pro because I can't justify the price of a PS5 when GT is the only game I play that doesn't run on PC, and I've still never seen a PS5 in stock except for ridiculously overpriced bundles. My PC would run the game so much better than my PS4 Pro does.

As for cheating, the worst of it can be avoided if the game is server authoritative. If PD sees this post and wants to know more info about how this can work, Psyonix gave a presentation about how Rocket League was made cheatproof, at least in so far as people can't make their car simply faster, for example.



There are some cheats for Rocket League, but purely visual ones like giving extra information, not really any different to how some people are viewing tyre temperatures, for example, in GT7.
 
I'd rather labor to build a game or play an old sim than try to assemble and curate a collection of satisfactory mods, just for a sandbox like Assetto Corsa. Been there, done that.

Mods have never been that much of a one-size-fits-all solution; rFactor didn't slow anyone else down years ago. Modded AC's popularity is a symptom of longing that the industry is foolish to ignore, IMHO.
 
Joey D
Maybe. We haven't even remotely seen the number of cars that will come out for GT7 though. But going by the updates we've received, I don't think PD is going to leave behind the regular cars. I mean I like race cars, but I'd rather build one out of a normal car than be given a pre-built one.

This isn't a big list:
www.assettocorsa.it

Assetto Corsa

Assetto Corsa is the most popular racing simulator developed by KUNOS Simulazioni. Come and take a look to features, cars, tracks and more!
www.assettocorsa.it www.assettocorsa.it

It's mostly race cars and supercars with only a handful of run-of-the-mill production vehicles. But as @Nebuc72 said, you need mods to get what you want. While I have no issue with downloading and installing mods in any game, it's kind of a pain at times to find stuff that's good quality. I have hundreds of mods for Farming Simulator, but it took a ton of trial and error to find stuff that works well and weed out the stuff that's garbage. That's been my experience with most games that can be modded.
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I follow a guy on YouTube that does compilations of free mod content that has been released in the past month - they all seem to be picked from great sources, be it Race Department or from Patreon releases. With the latter, you can also go through and download the rest of their Patreon catalogue, so it's a good way to dip into the rabbit hole.

 
GTxForza
To be fair, the Gran Turismo series is born to be Simcade as it offers a more forgiving driving model, in order to make it accessible for anyone to play plus a controller pad & racing wheelbase optimization, the same goes with the Forza Motorsport series.

Meanwhile, the Assetto Corsa series is born to be hardcore Sim Racing which features a more realistic driving model, making it even harder to play than Gran Turismo & Forza Motorsport, plus it's more recommended to use a racing wheelbase.
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That’s my point though, Forza is already on PC. And in doing some quick research, Forza Horizon 5 has 80 more cars that GT7. So there’s not much that’s unique when comparing the two.

As for AC, I get that it’s not as user friendly, but if you have a PC and enjoy racing games why not take the realistic driving model over something that’s watered down? I’m not saying there isn’t a market for both, but I doubt there’s a lot of racing enthusiasts who bought a PC just to play a Forza/GT7 type game.

Joey D
It offers nostalgia and the ability to play for long-time players like me who don't want to buy a PS5. I don't really have a use for a console, and while I wouldn't say no to a PS5, there are other things I'd rather spend money on.

As for the other PC titles out there? I've tried Assetto Corsa and Project Cars, and I don't really care for either of them. They're too focused on race cars instead of regular, everyday cars. With Gran Turismo, if I want to drive something like a Suzuki Swift or a Toyota Tundra, I can and I tend to enjoy those vehicles way more than any race car. Yes, I get that with Forza, but having another option would be nice since I don't have a ton of hope for FM8 after how boring FH5 was.
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To each their own, but I’ve genuinely never understood why someone would prefer to driver a pickup truck over a race car in a racing game. I can also say that I know a few people (myself included) who switched to PC because the nostalgia of Gran Turismo is gone.
 
I think this is an admirable goal, as I think it'd be good for sales. I just hope there isn't any cross-play between the PC version and the one on Playstation consoles, as I'm concerned about modders/cheaters. I don't see PD - or any dev, for that matter - making a PC version of GT that would be notably different from a future installment on Playstation consoles, either.

I do still wonder about that job posting I saw on PD's website, well after the release of GTS, that was looking for a mobile dev. We don't seem to have a companion app for GT7 yet, either, so I'm very curious as to what they could be working on in that regard - especially since the GTS app seemed to be entirely outclassed by the mobile site.

Then again, I think the PC market is much stiffer competition for realistic racing games in general. You've got ACC, for one, not to mention the elephant in the room: iRacing. I always thought the whole appeal of Sport Mode was that it's effectively a much more accessible version of iRacing. So if GT is released on PC, I don't really know what demographic PD is gonna be aiming for, since on PC, iRacing is a very enticing option.
 
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