Porsche Not in FM4 Confirmed (Originally Porsche may be in Forza 4. Check this out).

[Terronium-12]

Justin, Justin...that might be excessive. Especially when you mention Fox.

 

[Akira AC]

Ummm, just because developers use it as an alternative means nothing.

I swear the internet has more drama queens that jump to conclusion than MTV and Fox News combined.

Not sure if joking or denial

 

[Northstar]

Not sure if joking or denial

I'm not in denial, thus far we haven't had proof that they are in or out.

The fact RUF is in the game means nothing as far as the Porsche license.

 

[Crispy]

I'm not in denial, thus far we haven't had proof that they are in or out.

The fact RUF is in the game means nothing as far as the Porsche license.

Doesn't TDU2 have Porsche and RUF in it?

 

[zr1chris]

Doesn't TDU2 have Porsche and RUF in it?

Just RUF I believe.

 

[HBK]

Just RUF. And I'm sure. I'm playing it right now

 

[McLaren]

The partnership with the ALMS would make absolutely no sense, if Porsche would not be in the game.

Why would it make no sense? Last I checked, there were other manufacturers besides Porsche in ALMS....

 

[zr1chris]

Why would it make no sense? Last I checked, there were other manufacturers besides Porsche in ALMS....

It would make no sense seeing as how they had all the manufacturers in the last Forza but no ALMS but now they have ALMS and missing one of the main manufacturers of the series. Porsche would be the only one missing.

 

[McLaren]

Sorry, but I disagree. You can still get the ALMS license & incorporate it into the game without one of the manufacturers that take part. It may mean losing some of the more popular cars, but if it allows the addition of other cars/tracks/etc. featured in ALMS to try & make up for the lack of 1 manufacturer, then it does make sense, imo.

 

[zr1chris]

I wasn't saying you couldn't do it. Just that it would be odd for them to do it now that there missing one and not do it before when they had them all.

 

[Steve Mcqueen]

I little off topic but leaked pics of the 2012 Porsche 911

 

[Bogie 19th]

True, Driver San Francisco.

So, if it's a fact that you can't have Ruf and Porsche in the same game, we will then need you to provide these facts with a source backing up your claim. Be it a license agreement from Porsche direct, Ruf direct, or from a game developer that has provided these facts publicly.

We await your back up for your claim.

 

[Akira AC]

So, if it's a fact that you can't have Ruf and Porsche in the same game, we will then need you to provide these facts with a source backing up your claim. Be it a license agreement from Porsche direct, Ruf direct, or from a game developer that has provided these facts publicly.

We await your back up for your claim.

Nothing, no claim, having both brands in the same game is pretty silly, for reasons I mention previously.

...and then denial...then they didn't wanted Porsches in the game anyways...then this whole episode will be forgotten...as expected.

 

[Bogie 19th]

RUF in game = No Porsche in game

True.

You said it, not us. It's up to you to back up your statement if you claim it's true.

 

[Akira AC]

You said it, not us. It's up to you to back up your statement if you claim it's true.

Jeez

So, RUF in game = No Porsche in game

There goes all the claims that said such thing otherwise, and I still wonder why would someone take the licence for two cars, just to use roughly the same model(which is not the same as taking two cars and tag them as different).

Nothing, no claim, having both brands in the same game is pretty silly, for reasons I mention previously.

Apart from that, mention the year of the last game that included both RUF and Porsche in its catalogue.

Reading is better than overlooking.

And I guess I feel into the trap, still, I wont mail any PR departments that do not handle internal licensing issues, its pretty much a waste of time.

 

[Bogie 19th]

Ok, just clarifying

 

[Luminis]

Not sure if joking or denial

Not sure if trolling or just bitter

I'm not in denial, thus far we haven't had proof that they are in or out.

The fact RUF is in the game means nothing as far as the Porsche license.

In fact, the only things that are different from FM3 are that they've got RUF in and have no Porsche in the VIP car pack. Unless RUF and Porsche licenses are mutually exclsuive (which I doubt), it means absolutely nothing.

Nothing, no claim, having both brands in the same game is pretty silly, for reasons I mention previously.

Is it? Last time I checked, Porsche doesn't build the CTR3, with its RUF-designed body. And neither does RUF build cars like the RS Spyder or the RSR. Both have a place in the real automotive world, so they both have a place in the virtual automotive world, no? If having both would be silly, one of them would've gone belly up IRL.

...and then denial...then they didn't wanted Porsches in the game anyways...then this whole episode will be forgotten...as expected.

Sounds pretty much like the GT5 forum prior to release - only difference, there were probably two or three issues, all of them bigger than a single manufacturer.

 

[HBK]

Unless RUF and Porsche licenses are mutually exclsuive (which I doubt), it means absolutely nothing.

They are probably not mutually exclusive. But it is a well known fact that Porsche Licensing is a chore, and that for 22 years, many games have used RUF as a "replacement" for Porsche when they couldn't license it, not to mention that RUF and Porsche have been effectively "mutually excluded" in video games for these 22 years.

Anyone ignoring those facts *is* in denial.

 

[Luminis]

But it is a well known fact that Porsche Licensing is a chore

Which MS managed quite well for one of thir franchises at time, no?

Anyone ignoring those facts *is* in denial.

There's a difference between ignoring them and taking them for absolute proof.

 

[Da-Bomber]

So why didn't Dan G. just deny Porsche is in? Why say no comment? This was some Q A that went on, don't really know if it's true as there isn't a direct link.(got this from fm.net.)

 

[HBK]

Which MS managed quite well for one of thir franchises at time, no?

Agreed.

There's a difference between ignoring them and taking them for absolute proof.

And agreed again.

Still, there is a valid reason for worrying.

 

[Luminis]

Still, there is a valid reason for worrying.

Agreed. It's just that some people around here act like Porsche has been comfirmed out.

I'm worried a bit myself, but, well, I won't take it as fact unless it's comfirmed as such

 

[Hoodboi]

In a new feature to FM.net, Dan will be given interviews answering the most daring qutestions about FM4. In the first week of the feature he answers the big "Porsche in or out" question.

No Porsche.
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood1/

This kills me. While Forza Motorsport 4 will feature RUF, it will not include Porsche cars. As many of you know, since the beginning of the Forza franchise, the Porsche license has been available only through a sub-licensing deal with EA. In Forza 3, we were able to feature more than 35 different Porsche models by offering to collaborate with EA. For Forza 4, we were looking forward to adding even more Porsche cars, and we were especially looking forward to featuring multiple Porsche experiences in our new Autovista mode. In the end, however, EA couldn’t see their way towards collaborating again.

 

[331 LX]

Just read it.

What’s the status of Porsche in Forza Motorsport 4?

This kills me. While Forza Motorsport 4 will feature RUF, it will not include Porsche cars. As many of you know, since the beginning of the Forza franchise, the Porsche license has been available only through a sub-licensing deal with EA. In Forza 3, we were able to feature more than 35 different Porsche models by offering to collaborate with EA. For Forza 4, we were looking forward to adding even more Porsche cars, and we were especially looking forward to featuring multiple Porsche experiences in our new Autovista mode. In the end, however, EA couldn’t see their way towards collaborating again.

We’ve asked our contacts at EA to reconsider their position frequently and regularly over the last 18 months. We also reached out to various influential people in gaming to lobby on our behalf, and on your behalf, but that was to no avail.

In our business, we stay friendly with all of the manufacturers and licensors necessary to deliver players rich and innovative automotive experiences. As you’d expect, this includes quite a few key people in Porsche circles. To make sure we tried everything, we consulted with these advocates and were happy to find they were already aware of the situation and lobbying from within on behalf of Forza 4--and, despite the result, we thank them for their efforts.

While we respect EA’s need to run their business as they see fit, we’ve regularly collaborated in the past and hope we can find our way back to that approach. Forza had the exclusive license for all Ferrari cars, for example, on the Xbox and PC platforms. But at the end of the day, we’ve always found that we just weren’t willing to block other racing games from having Ferraris outright, as we believed that this would do nothing but hurt the racing ecosystem.

I’m very sorry for all of this. Fans shouldn’t have to think about any of this – you should just be able to drive Porsches and Ferraris in the games you love. Porsche makes wonderful cars and I’m sorry that we won’t have them in Forza 4. As I mentioned earlier, we have added three RUF cars in Forza 4. RUF is a manufacturer in their own right, not simply an aftermarket mod shop—they completely remanufacture and enhance the models that they start from, and the results are unique, incredibly fast, and the cars look great. Losing more than 35 Porsche models is a lost opportunity for Porsche fans (as well as a lost opportunity to make future Porsche fans), but I hope that Forza 4 players understand and enjoy the new makes and models that have taken their place.

 

[Hoodboi]

definitely hurts to lose out on the flying lizard and classic 911's. gonna have a memorial, 2hr 911 run at the Ring.

 

[a6m5]

You heard plenty of rumors regarding Gran Turismo franchise, and makers like Ferrari, etc. This sounds like similar situation Turn 10 ran into, but with way more information than I've ever gotten from Gran Turismo related news. Very interesting, very insightful. 👍

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Kinda getting tired of EA & Porsche. I think if they were smart they'd free themselves up so they can decide what racing games deserve them. I guess Porsche dont care and don't see what kind of money is to be made...really I myself need clarification on that

 

[JJ72]

Screw you, EA.

Was interested in NFS the Run and now I have to boycott it.

 

[LaBounti]

Thank you EA for killing off the virtual joy that is the Panamera and Cayenne Turbo s models..... They will never appear in Shift

NFL to cap NFL2k ,,, check
Porsche to cap Forza check

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

Screw you, EA.

Was interested in NFS the Run and now I have to boycott it.

I am right there with you. I'm glad I do not own any EA games and I plan on not buying another one. Battlefield 3.... I hate to say it.... but you are off my list.