Porsche's Contract With EA

[JKgo]

...And this is how a thread goes off topic. Wonderful.

Look, T10 must have different priorities, or deeper pockets than PDI. I don't know. You don't know, hell only the parties involved knows. If T10 paid for Porsches, then kudos for them. Feel bitter and angry at lack of response form PDI? That's one of the reasons why T10 went for this license, that emotion goading you towards the direction of Forza games.

I don't hold any allusions regarding T10 simply doing it for the gamers only. Haven't there already enough interviews where Dan Greenwalt's busy poking fun at GT's expense?

Anyways, I'm not holding my breath. EA will renew its licensing agreement. I just can't see it not happening. Sigh. That's just the way it is, I guess.

 

[Haulin_Hebrew]

Except I didn't question the video.

So because ONE game ended up having a DLC pack from a certain Manufacterer, its automatically perfect to accuse Kaz of making "Excuses".

What do you call this??? I guess De-Nile is not just a River In Egypt.

First Let me say this to the defender of Polyphony Digital aka @RACECAR, My Vent or Rant was toward Mr.Yamauchi and Polyphony Digital on this public forum, for which I have A right, as a loyal customer of Polyphony Digital's Gran Turismo Series, whether he (Mr. Yamauchi) hears it or Not, You Mr. Polyphony Digital Defender decided I don't have that right, and you know me so well that you know with all of your infinite wisdom, when I am joking or not, and you say I'm self entitled?? Who on Earth would rather have a Mod???? that in itself merits sarcasm or A joke, to you and @ImaRobot And the Porsche issue is one that Yamauchi has addressed personally as well @ImaRobot especially now that Porsche has won Le Mans, Just because you are not passionate about Porsche, that doesn't give you the right to silence those who are @RACECAR, This Thread was intended and created for Porsche and Gran Turismo Lovers who want both, and establishing what they would sacrifice in order to have it both, and the video was just more justification that is very possible to have both, Porsche in GT7. and for the record I never said my feelings was hurt, I was simply explaining to you the motive of my response, So say what you want, but just remember you reap what you sow.

 

[ImaRobot]

What do you call this??? I guess De-Nile is not just a River In Egypt.

First Let me say this to the defender of Polyphony Digital aka @RACECAR, My Vent or Rant was toward Mr.Yamauchi and Polyphony Digital on this public forum, for which I have A right, as a loyal customer of Polyphony Digital's Gran Turismo Series, whether he (Mr. Yamauchi) hears it or Not, You Mr. Polyphony Digital Defender decided I don't have that right, and you know me so well that you know with all of your infinite wisdom, when I am joking or not, and you say I'm self entitled?? Who on Earth would rather have a Mod???? that in itself merits sarcasm or A joke, to you and @ImaRobot And the Porsche issue is one that Yamauchi has addressed personally as well @ImaRobot especially now that Porsche has won Le Mans, Just because you are not passionate about Porsche, that doesn't give you the right to silence those who are @RACECAR, This Thread was intended and created for Porsche and Gran Turismo Lovers who want both, and establishing what they would sacrifice in order to have it both, and the video was just more justification that is very possible to have both, Porsche in GT7. and for the record I never said my feelings was hurt, I was simply explaining to you the motive of my response, So say what you want, but just remember you reap what you sow.

Go back and re-read my post. Once finished please quote the part where I specifacally told someone to keep quiet. Otherwise, stop making things up and playing the victim.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Look, T10 must have different priorities, or deeper pockets than PDI. I don't know.

Yet only a few sentences later...

That's one of the reasons why T10 went for this license, that emotion goading you towards the direction of Forza games.

Deductive reasoning at its finest.

@Haulin_Hebrew - "Entitled" is exactly the word I would use if I had to describe the video in the OP. Seeing "excuses" and "settle less" (heh) within the first minute wasn't enough, I also see "any means necessary"? These are childish lines.

Polyphony doesn't owe you a return on the "investment of (y)our loyalty": one could certainly argue they do with regards to the Course Maker, but not for a marque they've ever suggested they'd be adding.

Oh, and you're right about one thing: PD aren't the only sim racers on PS4. Since they don't have any presence on the console at all.

 

[Haulin_Hebrew]

Deductive reasoning at its finest

R U Serious??

Turn 10 And Polyphony Digital both had an ACCEPTABLE Excuse concerning EA and not delivering Porsche to Console Sim Racing,

This has already been addressed.

Except for the fact that there was no joke, or hint of it in your response. There was nothing funny or lighthearted about it, instead it seemed like more of a straightforward retort. What's odd is the fact that the mod's are not made by the developer, so I'm not sure why PD would have to step it up, if you are for mods.

This is the only reason I responded to your comment @ImaRobot because you decided to read me, So I was just letting you know You read wrong, And for the record, If you are attacked, that makes you a victim of an attack, It doesn't mean you were hurt by the attack.

 

[Tornado]

This has already been addressed.

And it didn't mean anything then either. How does some other game getting back something that they have a history of having mean that a game that famously has never had it had the same opportunities? Who are you to dictate what is and is not an "acceptable excuse" for why something isn't in a game when you know nothing about what needed to be done to get it back in the other game? Who the hell are you to even dictate that PD needs to have an excuse for not meeting your personal whims?

And for the record, If you are attacked, that makes you a victim of an attack

Except you weren't attacked. People responding incredulously when you say foolish things isn't a personal attack against you.

 

[JKgo]

Deductive reasoning at its finest.

...{facepalm} I forgot to put "probably" in there. Oops. Me and my eagerness to type stuff...

Edit: ohh looky here, I made another mistake. Should've said "I didn't put" instead of "forgot".

 

[Haulin_Hebrew]

Except you weren't attacked.

attack
[uh-tak]

• Synonyms
• Examples
• Word Origin

verb (used with object)
1.
to set upon in a forceful, violent, hostile, or aggressive way, with or without a weapon; begin fighting with:
He attacked him with his bare hands.
2.
to begin hostilities against; start an offensive against:
to attack the enemy.
3.
to blame or abuse violently or bitterly.
4.
to direct unfavorable criticism against; criticize severely; argue with strongly:

Seriously dude, get off your high horse and stop with the mass quantities of bold, oversized and obnoxious text.

I've wanted to say that but I would have a bit meaner.

I believe these statement fit the criteria of the definition.

 

[ImaRobot]

This is the only reason I responded to your comment @ImaRobot because you decided to read me, So I was just letting you know You read wrong, And for the record, If you are attacked, that makes you a victim of an attack, It doesn't mean you were hurt by the attack.

I didn't read wrong. I read exactly what you wrote in the most literal way because thats the only way you're coming across. So please, go back, and quote me where I told someone to keep quiet. This is a debate, that you started. So don't come in here and claim people are attacking you just because their are replying to your ridiculous and misinformed claims. You are not a victim, when you yourself are the one that initiated this situation. The only person wrong here is you, pretending like your an innocent victim when you're the one that's coming off just as offensive. Stop pretending.

attack
[uh-tak]

• Synonyms
• Examples
• Word Origin

verb (used with object)
1.
to set upon in a forceful, violent, hostile, or aggressive way, with or without a weapon; begin fighting with:
He attacked him with his bare hands.

Except that no one is fighting you.

2.
to begin hostilities against; start an offensive against:
to attack the enemy.

Except that no one is starting an offense against an enemy. We can't reply to you, otherwise you claim you're being attacked? Give me a break. If you dont want to get into a heated debate, avoid the situation all together, otherwise stop with the bs.

3.
to blame or abuse violently or bitterly.

Oh you're right on this one, I definitely am blaming you for using all kinds of wrong information. Still, there is no violence involved, so, wrong again.

4.
to direct unfavorable criticism against; criticize severely; argue with strongly:

Which is what you started, making this thread. You started an attack thread. Why is it ok for you, but not anyone else? If your too sensitive to get into debates, and are going to cry a river as soon as someone points out how wrong you are, then I suggest not creating these kind of threads on hot topics, otherwise its your own fault for how people are responding to you.

You. Are. Not. A. Victim. An attack is an act of violence, and if you haven't noticed, there has been non of that here.

 

[Smurfybug]

Saying that I would have said it meaner is that not attacking you. It means I would have said something in a harsher tone.

If I said that I wanted to punch you in the face, then that would be over the top wouldn't it?

 

[Haulin_Hebrew]

You. Are. Not. A. Victim. An attack is an act of violence, and if you haven't noticed, there has been non of that here.

First of all @ImaRobot Your debate is not with me, It's with Webster's Dictionary, So take your debate there,

And Secondly, I didn't even mention you under the definition

I didn't read wrong

And Concerning what I addressed to you ImaRobot, I didn't mean you read the paragraph wrong, I meant you interpreted the paragraph wrong, because I was joking, as I said before Who would rather have A MOD as opposed to a simulation generated by the developer?? That Alone Merits Sarcasm i.e. A Joke, but you believe what you wish dude, your beliefs don't hurt me at all, whether you love Porsche, Hate Porsche or in different about Porsche it is all established in the poll of this thread, All POV are expected, so why would I be hurt by negative POV??? It's allocated in my original poll,.

Saying that I would have said it meaner is that not attacking you. It means I would have said something in a harsher tone.

R U Serious Smurfybug Do you really believe your own words after reading the definition of the word attack? You're Passive Aggressive, but still aggressive, Not only did you cosign RaceCars insults but you stated and still hold fast to the fact that you would have been Meaner, More Hostile, and Offensive in your tone, go back and read the definition again dude, an Attack doesn't have to be physical.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/09/ea-we-need-to-talk-about-porsche

THE WAIT IS OVER

 

[R5]

Can I suggest we leave @Haulin_Hebrew to his ignorance? Like, is it really worth spelling this flustercluck to him over and over and over and over, just for him to retort with some other nonsense?

The answer should well be no, let's keep this thread to Porsche in GT.

 

[ImaRobot]

First of all @ImaRobot Your debate is not with me, It's with Webster's Dictionary, So take your debate there
And Secondly, I didn't even mention you under the definition

Your post was directed, and is available for everyone to reply to, regardless of who it was aimed at. You're debate is with anyone that replies, otherwise stop replying.

And Concerning what I addressed to you ImaRobot, I didn't mean you read the paragraph wrong, I meant you interpreted the paragraph wrong, because I was joking, as I said before Who would rather have A MOD as opposed to a simulation generated by the developer?? That Alone Merits Sarcasm i.e. A Joke, but you believe what you wish dude, your beliefs don't hurt me at all, whether you love Porsche, Hate Porsche or in different about Porsche it is all established in the poll of this thread, All POV are expected, so why would I be hurt by negative POV??? It's allocated in my original poll,.

Except that there was no hint of a joke, there was nothing funny, there was nothing lighthearted, and like I said, it was obviously just a retort. I didn't interpret it wrong, you forwarded the message wrong. That alone merits nothing, because of your post history it came off at 100% genuine.

 

[Famine]

Well, that's quite enough of that particular sidebar.

 

[Smurfybug]

Well, that's quite enough of that particular sidebar.

Was about to say that myself.



Edit: 2,000th Post!

 

[05XR8]

Without starting a new thread, I'm only posting to discuss this:

Of all the garages to capture. Of all the camera positions to set, PD chose this one.
In the background is a sign for "Porsche Manthey...". Could have been any other team. Why that one and why now? This isn't like seeing a Pprsche banner. It's an actual racing team. Wouldn't they need a licence to display that even?
Assetto Corsa are having their time to shine with Porsche. Maybe a surprise is coming.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Without starting a new thread, I'm only posting to discuss this:

Of all the garages to capture. Of all the camera positions to set, PD chose this one.
In the background is a sign for "Porsche Manthey...". Could have been any other team. Why that one and why now? This isn't like seeing a Pprsche banner. It's an actual racing team. Wouldn't they need a licence to display that even?
Assetto Corsa are having their time to shine with Porsche. Maybe a surprise is coming.

Why would the need to have a license to display a trailer with a team name on it. Do you not remember the last group that tried to sue PD over using their branding in the game and losing to PD. If that trailer was there at the track and modeled with the rest of the stuff we see in this image, then that's what happened. It's part of the track decor

 

[05XR8]

Why would the need to have a license to display a trailer with a team name on it. Do you not remember the last group that tried to sue PD over using their branding in the game and losing to PD. If that trailer was there at the track and modeled with the rest of the stuff we see in this image, then that's what happened. It's part of the track decor

I cant recall that post. I don't know if this is a real garage or fictitious circuit. There is a BMW trailer in the background and maybe the Manthey writing is on a trailer as well. This phone makes the brightness hard to distinguish any lines. I actually thought those were car lights in the background before seeing the roundel.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I cant recall that post. I don't know if this is a real garage or fictitious circuit. There is a BMW trailer in the background and maybe the Manthey in on a trailer as well. This phone makes the brightness hard to distinguish any lines. I actually thought those were car lights in the background before seeing the roundel.

I can tell you right now it's a race trailer for what looks to be possibly a VLN event. Which makes sense considering what Kaz does on his off time and the trailers seen in the background. Also considering the range of FIA homologated race cars that take place in it.

It could be a WEC event but that would make this model quite old and PD had done enough to get flak that I don't have to give reason to add.

 

[05XR8]

Just seems suspect to find that in these new pics.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Just seems suspect to find that in these new pics.

Only to us long term fans that still hold a just as old hope of seeing Porsche at some point in the game.

 

[05XR8]

True. As soon as I locked "it away, somewhere where no one will ever find it", the eyes widen and the hype ensues.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Just an FYI for anyone who might not already have realised.

Seeing Porsche on an area of a track or other scenery doesn't really mean anything:

 

[Skygrasper550]

Just an FYI for anyone who might not already have realised.

Seeing Porsche on an area of a track or other scenery doesn't really mean anything:

it's been more than a year since I touched my GT6 copy, is that Porsche banner from an update?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

it's been more than a year since I touched my GT6 copy, is that Porsche banner from an update?

No it's been there, there is an entire thread discussing it that is older than a year. This was also used in another Porsche thread to make a leap of faith that Porsche wouldn't be too far down the line from a Pd produced game...

 

[Skygrasper550]

No it's been there, there is an entire thread discussing it that is older than a year.

Welp. I have been way out of touch with this forum

This was also used in this thread and another Porsche thread to make a leap of faith that Porsche wouldn't be too far down the line from a Pd produced game...

Well the trademark is definitely there; that unmistakable font style and all 7 letters of the Porsche name in the correct order. If Porsche or EA had any issues with that, they would have sued PD and had those taken down immediately.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Welp. I have been way out of touch with this forum



Well the trademark is definitely there; that unmistakable font style and all 7 letters of the Porsche name in the correct order. If Porsche or EA had any issues with that, they would have sued PD and had those taken down immediately.

They can't sue PD to take it down, as I explained in this thread already that was tried by another company, who's name is seen on a certain Italian (?) track. They lost to PD. The banners are part of the model, which PD has the rights to represent its likeness. It's far different than sneaking in a GT3 and not claiming it a Porsche.

 

[Skygrasper550]

They can't sue PD to take it down, as I explained in this thread already that was tried by another company, who's name is seen on a certain Italian (?) track. They lost to PD. The banners are part of the model, which PD has the rights to represent its likeness.

Didn't know that. The usual way for game devs is to put up different banners to circumvent copyright and trademark laws, but it's great that they really stuck with recreating everything on the track by the time they surveyed and scanned it.

It's far different than sneaking in a GT3 and not claiming it a Porsche.

Yeah that one is a bit harder.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Porsche is also directly mentioned in the descriptions of multiple RUFs. Licencing/using the name and logo is very different from using the cars.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Porsche is also directly mentioned in the descriptions of multiple RUFs. Licencing/using the name and logo is very different from using the cars.

Well yeah that makes sense, if you know the history of Ruf and how they're build from unmarked Porsche chassis. Ruf are their own manufacture though. But you also make a good point