Project CARS 2 General Discussion Thread - Out Now on PS4/XB1/PC

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Personally, I'd like to see 4 more with the 919 Hybrid, 991 RSR (GTE), Porsche Supercup and the Porsche 906/6L to compete with the Ford GT40 and the Ferrari.


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Exactly. Maybe the 917k or 73' rsr thrown in too lol.
 
What's the difference in the 935/77 and 935/80? Aren't they both the group 5 car? The GT3 endurance is a bit weird. Hopefully it's not replacing the RSR.
 
What's the difference in the 935/77 and 935/80? Aren't they both the group 5 car? The GT3 endurance is a bit weird. Hopefully it's not replacing the RSR.
Yeah I'm not a big fan of the basically duplicates of 3 of the cars even if one is built for "straightaways". Two 935s, two 962s and two 911 gt3s could have easily been a 908, 917k and maybe a 959. Hell even the new 911 rsr would have been a treat.
 
Yeah I'm not a big fan of the basically duplicates of 3 of the cars even if one is built for "straightaways". Two 935s, two 962s and two 911 gt3s could have easily been a 908, 917k and maybe a 959. Hell even the new 911 rsr would have been a treat.
I don't like duplicates either. Although looking at SMS's track record I'd like to think there's more to these cars that make them unique from their counterpart. The aren't S2000's where one has power steering and one doesn't after all :). I'm still holding out for the 2017 RSR around LeMans since AC got it recently.

@05XR8 Is the 935/80 the Moby Dick one? The article says they stopped producing full cars after 1979.
 
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In the firing line of Forza (and possibly GTSport). Bad decision in my opinion. Oh and close to FIFA too.
 
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What does GTS have over pCars 2 in your opinion that would make this release date a bad decision?

The main thing is the brand. It's like last year -- PES was arguably the better game but FIFA crushed it. In this case PCARS isn't competing against one FIFA but two. Even on PC they'll be competing with Forza 7.
 
The main thing is the brand. It's like last year -- PES was arguably the better game but FIFA crushed it. In this case PCARS isn't competing against one FIFA but two. Even on PC they'll be competing with Forza 7.
Yes Gran Turismo does have a bigger fan base from the number of years it's been around you have a point there. Something I noticed about pCars 1 was that it was the first sim on ps4 but some of my friends who were still on PS3 playing gt6 didn't make the switch to PS4. There's still a lot of people on PS3 just for gt6 actually. If those people make the switch to PS4 for GTS and pCars 2 comes out before GTS then I think GTS will be in trouble.
 
Yes Gran Turismo does have a bigger fan base from the number of years it's been around you have a point there. Something I noticed about pCars 1 was that it was the first sim on ps4 but some of my friends who were still on PS3 playing gt6 didn't make the switch to PS4. There's still a lot of people on PS3 just for gt6 actually. If those people make the switch to PS4 for GTS and pCars 2 comes out before GTS then I think GTS will be in trouble.
Nailed it.
 
Yes Gran Turismo does have a bigger fan base from the number of years it's been around you have a point there. Something I noticed about pCars 1 was that it was the first sim on ps4 but some of my friends who were still on PS3 playing gt6 didn't make the switch to PS4. There's still a lot of people on PS3 just for gt6 actually. If those people make the switch to PS4 for GTS and pCars 2 comes out before GTS then I think GTS will be in trouble.

Why would they make a switch because of GTSport and then not buy it?
 
Why would they make a switch because of GTSport and then not buy it?
I'm not saying they won't buy it. They might try pCars as well and never look back. Personally I played a lot of gt5 and gt6 and had a lot of fun. I could never go back though after trying pCars.

Another route would be looking at how people bought DRIVECLUB before pCars came out even though they bought a PS4 for pCars 1. Replace DC with pCars 2 and pCars 1 with GTS.
 
I apologize for the repeat question but I don't think I've explained myself properly. I've asked this over at the PCARS 2 official forum, with no response.

Can you pick multi-class race (in single-player custom race) and then have the game choose the classes randomly? Like, you pick multi-class, then the game goes "Ok, i guess, Indycar, Group C, Formula B and NASCAR", as an example. Does anyone know if this will be possible?
 
In the firing line of Forza (and possibly GTSport). Bad decision in my opinion. Oh and close to FIFA too.
I think the big question is how many players are each game going to sway from another title. Player base at this point is a moot point. The big fact is how many each platform loses or gains.
 
To me pCARS is a competitor to AC, rF2 and iR genre wise.
Against Forza or GTS is just market share.

Unfortunately, money talks so, the wrong interest "comparison" prevails. But seeing how well pC1 sold I don't see pC2 taking a step back especially when it is so much improved in all areas that's almost ridiculous.

Forza will still be Forza, GTS will remain GTS, pCARS is here to stay and kicks ass :P

I won't be back to console driving simulators :D that's for sure but that's me.

There's no reason to own all though if you fancy them.

I also have the real competitors.
 
I'm not saying they won't buy it. They might try pCars as well and never look back. Personally I played a lot of gt5 and gt6 and had a lot of fun. I could never go back though after trying pCars.

Another route would be looking at how people bought DRIVECLUB before pCars came out even though they bought a PS4 for pCars 1. Replace DC with pCars 2 and pCars 1 with GTS.

Oh, got ya. SMS in my opinion had a big shot with PCARS (there was a sim racing thirst on PS4) but they didn't do well enough (imo) to assert themselves as a competitor to the big two.
 
I think a lot of people looked at pcars1 when it first came out but the game was so buggy and glitchy (at first!) that people lost interest really fast because of that. That plus the ffb issues didn't help. Even though the game been in good condition for awhile now it seem like people still talk crap about it. That's why pcars2 needs to deliver right out the gate. If it's pcars1 all over again where the game is glitchy and thing's are not working then it's gonna be the same result. But if it's a smooth release then the game will get really really popular. Regardless of what happens this game is gonna destroy the competition. If something's not working they could always fix it in a patch. But still deliver out the gate @IanBell
 
I think a lot of people looked at pcars1 when it first came out but the game was so buggy and glitchy (at first!) that people lost interest really fast because of that. That plus the ffb issues didn't help. Even though the game been in good condition for awhile now it seem like people still talk crap about it. That's why pcars2 needs to deliver right out the gate. If it's pcars1 all over again where the game is glitchy and thing's are not working then it's gonna be the same result. But if it's a smooth release then the game will get really really popular. Regardless of what happens this game is gonna destroy the competition. If something's not working they could always fix it in a patch. But still deliver out the gate @IanBell
I think it will be a smoother release as I think SMS have purposefully held back on releasing the release date to prevent the public delays and ensure the game is functional on release. If it wasn't ready for late September, they wouldn't announce it for then and keep it for October/November.
 
I think it will be a smoother release as I think SMS have purposefully held back on releasing the release date to prevent the public delays and ensure the game is functional on release. If it wasn't ready for late September, they wouldn't announce it for then and keep it for October/November.
Another note to add is that perhaps Forza 7 will have a later release date say late October giving time for PC2 to sell some. Then bam we get wowed by forza and bam GTS comes out and then the competition can proceed for the remainder of the year.
 
To me pCARS is a competitor to AC, rF2 and iR genre wise.
Against Forza or GTS is just market share.

Unfortunately, money talks so, the wrong interest "comparison" prevails. But seeing how well pC1 sold I don't see pC2 taking a step back especially when it is so much improved in all areas that's almost ridiculous.

Forza will still be Forza, GTS will remain GTS, pCARS is here to stay and kicks ass :P

I won't be back to console driving simulators :D that's for sure but that's me.

There's no reason to own all though if you fancy them.

I also have the real competitors.
It is an interesting dynamic because of the multi-platform release.
The competition on XBox is different than the competition on PS4 and they're both different than the competition on PC.

The thing Gran Turimso fans will need to embrace is that there is no GT7 coming in the near future. Gran Turismo Sport is not like GT6 and it is not like Forza. There shouldn't be any Forza vs GT Sport comps. GT Sport will be its own thing, probably most akin to an iRacing type title for the PS4.

For PS4 owners, the question is does GT Sport offer a racing experience better than Project CARS 2? If car collecting/tuning/painting is your thing, you're not buying pC2 or GT Sport. Gran Turismo owns the market share on PS4, but PDI isn't making the type of game that created that market. That said, GT Sport should be far more concerned about Project CARS 2 than Project CARS 2 needs to worry about GTS. As for the other general competition, console market share is always going to be tight because there are so many games and players who cross genres.

For XBox, car collectors/tuners/painters will still buy Forza. It has its own appeal and a massive following. If I was a Forza fan, nothing Project CARS 2 could do would dissuade me from buying Forza because, on the whole, they are very different branches off the same genre. Project CARS is a racing game that uses cars while Forza is a car game that uses racing. That nuance makes for two very different games. I do not think of them as direct competitors, but it will be more difficult for Forza to maintain its market share than it will be for pC2 to increase its own because that is how markets and competition work. There is no current game on XBox that does fully what Project CARS 1 did and Project CARS 2 will only serve to separate itself more. As for the general XBox competition, as stated above, it is what it is. There will always be some new game out there to compete against for gaming hours.

For PC, the competition is fairly straightforward. It is iRacing or Project CARS 2. There are many other great racing titles on PC, but none will be new, so the pC2 release window for PC is probably about perfect, if not a bit late. GTR 3 is not releasing until 2018. rFactor 2 released in 2013. AC and AMS are in perpetual development mode. Forza will be available on PC, but, again, it is a different type of game. PC sim-racers aren't going to go to Forza for its physics model. It is far more likely that a PC owner who is a Forza fan will jump to pC2 rather than go the other way. And PC gamers are much less likely to cross genres than their Console counterparts.
 
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I don't like duplicates either. Although looking at SMS's track record I'd like to think there's more to these cars that make them unique from their counterpart. The aren't S2000's where one has power steering and one doesn't after all :). I'm still holding out for the 2017 RSR around LeMans since AC got it recently.

@05XR8 Is the 935/80 the Moby Dick one? The article says they stopped producing full cars after 1979.
This is the 935/80
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This is the 935/80
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You're going to have to talk to me like a 5 year old here. I read everything you posted and I believe I'm missing something. Is there a big difference to these 2 cars like 2016 f1 to 2017 f1?
 
You're going to have to talk to me like a 5 year old here. I read everything you posted and I believe I'm missing something. Is there a big difference to these 2 cars like 2016 f1 to 2017 f1?
I think the hp was different from what I read. The regular 935/77 I believe had 580 or 600hp. The 935/80 had 670ish hp. And small body changes blah blah... still wish the Moby dick was chosen instead.
 
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