Project CARS car list

[BanjoMaster14]

Stepping away from the new license talk for a second, here's another wee reminder of what the current manufacturers we have in the game are up to new-cars-wise. I really hope these new cars are part of SMS' plans going forward:

New R8 LMS revealed:

New AMG GT3 revealed:

Another shot of the new M6 GT3 as well:

 

[GTAndy36]

Stepping away from the new license talk for a second, here's another wee reminder of what the current manufacturers we have in the game are up to new-cars-wise. I really hope these new cars are part of SMS' plans going forward:

New R8 LMS revealed:

New AMG GT3 revealed:

Another shot of the new M6 GT3 as well:

Yeah I hope that these beauties will come to PCars in the near future.

 

[Myles Prower]

They're not racing till 2016, one step at a time

 

[BanjoMaster14]

They'll all be racing this year, but only in the hands of works/partner programs. Customer cars won't be seen before the 2016 season though.

 

[ozwheels]

Speaking of the new Audi and Merc GT3 cars, does anyone know why they don't make GTE variants?

 

[GTAndy36]

Marketing? Budget? Product direction choices? No idea to be honest.

 

[Swarley133]

Speaking of the new Audi and Merc GT3 cars, does anyone know why they don't make GTE variants?

I know Audi has stated that they just aren't interested in GTE. As for Mercedes? No idea.

 

[HEF51]

So any news yet on that said car manufacturer?

 

[FuriousDemon]

So any news yet on that said car manufacturer?

Not about that one. But I think there is something else going on on that front soon.

 

[TexasTyme214]

Speaking of the new Audi and Merc GT3 cars, does anyone know why they don't make GTE variants?

My guess would be that it's either not very profitable to make a GTE car or that the they're waiting until the new GTE regulations are finished.

 

[Willfred_1]

My guess would be that it's either not very profitable to make a GTE car or that the they're waiting until the new GTE regulations are finished.

Gt3 is effectively an open rule book so they had to release a mega update or a new car to compete with the McLaren bently and Audi. GTE in comparison is really strict.

 

[Myles Prower]

It seems that GT Automotive makers are trying to make games studios cry, you have SMS, Kunos and Papyrus all putting out GT cars and then they go nope and release a whole new generation of GT cars for them to licence and model! Seriously you have the BMW M6, the new Audi, SLS merc, the Mclaren 420b, the Lambo Hurican and Ferrari are sure going to make its 488 into a GT3 car, no doubt Aston will get a new car out the second SMS release the GTE Vantage.

 

[GTAndy36]

It seems that GT Automotive makers are trying to make games studios cry, you have SMS, Kunos and Papyrus all putting out GT cars and then they go nope and release a whole new generation of GT cars for them to licence and model! Seriously you have the BMW M6, the new Audi, SLS merc, the Mclaren 420b, the Lambo Hurican and Ferrari are sure going to make its 488 into a GT3 car, no doubt Aston will get a new car out the second SMS release the GTE Vantage.

Yeah... but they don't build a new race car just to laugh at game developers

The current crop of GT3 cars have been around for a decent number of years now.

 

[Myles Prower]

I know but the content is being released right at the end of there cycle

 

[BanjoMaster14]

It seems that GT Automotive makers are trying to make games studios cry, you have SMS, Kunos and Papyrus all putting out GT cars and then they go nope and release a whole new generation of GT cars for them to licence and model! Seriously you have the BMW M6, the new Audi, SLS merc, the Mclaren 420b, the Lambo Hurican and Ferrari are sure going to make its 488 into a GT3 car, no doubt Aston will get a new car out the second SMS release the GTE Vantage.

On the contrary - they're in cahoots with the developers to keep them in DLC content. It's a conspiracy! A CONSPIRACEEEEEEE!

 

[TexasTyme214]

Gt3 is effectively an open rule book so they had to release a mega update or a new car to compete with the McLaren bently and Audi. GTE in comparison is really strict.

Yes, but GTE cars also get many waivers to bend the rules when it comes to the construction of the cars. A famous example is the Viper receiving a waiver for its 8.0L engine when the general displacement limit is 5.5L.

@ bottom of page 3
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/LMGTE (2015) dc ab.pdf

 

[Willfred_1]

Yes, but GTE cars also get many waivers to bend the rules when it comes to the construction of the cars. A famous example is the Viper receiving a waiver for its 8.0L engine when the general displacement limit is 5.5L.

@ bottom of page 3
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/LMGTE (2015) dc ab.pdf

waivers are different. GTE cars are arguably much closer to the road version than gt3.

 

[BanjoMaster14]

The bottom line is that a GTE car would require a significant investment from the factory to do it properly, but with the explosion in GT3 series around the globe and the fact that it's exclusively a customer category, manufacturers can actually make money selling GT3 cars. This, coupled with the free-er rulebook requiring less of a development budget, is what has made GT3 so attractive to manufacturers and the formula such an incredible success. I can't remember seeing anything like this level of success in sportscar racing in my lifetime (1980 onwards in case you're wondering...)

 

[ozwheels]

waivers are different. GTE cars are arguably much closer to the road version than gt3.

As far as appearance yea but in lap times GT3 cars don't have a chance.

 

[Fryto]

As far as appearance yea but in lap times GT3 cars don't have a chance.

They're quite close though. Fastest lap in the 24 hrs of Spa was 2.20.546, which is only half a second shy of the GTE Am lap record.

 

[ozwheels]

They're quite close though. Fastest lap in the 24 hrs of Spa was 2.20.546, which is only half a second shy of the GTE Am lap record.

That's an Am car that is at least one year old and driven by a non factory driver. At Silverstone the 458 GTE is 2.5 seconds a lap faster than the GT3 variant.

 

[SagarisGTB]

Yes, but GTE cars also get many waivers to bend the rules when it comes to the construction of the cars. A famous example is the Viper receiving a waiver for its 8.0L engine when the general displacement limit is 5.5L.

@ bottom of page 3
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/LMGTE (2015) dc ab.pdf

GTE has a rulebook but waivers are given out like tissues at a funeral, so the regulations are effectively obsolete. GT3 doesn't really have a rulebook in the first place, so waivers aren't required. It's just two ways of getting to the same destination.

That's an Am car that is at least one year old and driven by a non factory driver. At Silverstone the 458 GTE is 2.5 seconds a lap faster than the GT3 variant.

It's not as cut and dry as you think. GTE cars are generally faster, but not always. The speed of the cars, from both classes, invariably depend on track characteristics, tires and BoP used, in addition to ever-present variables such as weather. Super GT GT3 cars are faster around Fuji than GTE-Pro cars. In the ADAC GT Masters, the Lambda Ford GT GT3 hit 2'19.3 at Spa, which is within a few tens of the best GTE-Pro times at the track.

 

[Johnnypenso]

GTE has a rulebook but waivers are given out like tissues at a funeral, so the regulations are effectively obsolete. GT3 doesn't really have a rulebook in the first place, so waivers aren't required. It's just two ways of getting to the same destination.
It's not as cut and dry as you think. GTE cars are generally faster, but not always. The speed of the cars, from both classes, invariably depend on track characteristics, tires and BoP used, in addition to ever-present variables such as weather. Super GT GT3 cars are faster around Fuji than GTE-Pro cars. In the ADAC GT Masters, the Lambda Ford GT GT3 hit 2'19.3 at Spa, which is within a few tens of the best GTE-Pro times at the track.

Hey stranger. Are you jumping on the Project Cars bandwagon like the rest of us? If so what platform?👍

 

[SagarisGTB]

Been a while JP.

For the time being, I'm not buying a gaming PC or a PS4/Xbox, so I'll remain on the sidelines for a while yet. Perhaps in a year or two I'll get back into driving/racing games, but for now I'll simply keep my eye on how this game develops from the sidelines. To be honest, I'm much more enthused by the prospects of AC than Pcars, even though I've played the latter and not the former. From the start, the populist concept of Pcars has been slightly off-putting, and my experiences in the WMD forums have not helped matters. I'm not abandoning it, just observing from a distance to see how it develops, for now.

 

[legatoblues]

Does anyone know the stats for the Group A cars? That was a category that saw many, many different BOP and homologation changes through it's relatively short life and so I'm curious to know how our 3 cars will compare with each other.

Especially given that the Sierra chosen is 3 years older than the others and can anyone confirm that DTM regulations of the time were a match to international Group A?

 

[blowfishrulez]

There may be some surprises announced to the car selection before release. Cars that are not seen on the list from the OP and also not openly developed over at WMD.

 

[Fryto]

There may be some surprises announced to the car selection before release. Cars that are not seen on the list from the OP and also not openly developed over at WMD.

 

[talkin_2_me]

I bet it's another Vision GT concept...oh wait....

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I bet it's another Vision GT concept...oh wait....

VPC

 

[talkin_2_me]

VPC

What's "VPC"?