Project RUF Blackbird Grip Tune Settings Released
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Okay, after a personal reset, I've put another 10-15 laps on the top 2 tunes, to give a more focused and accurate result. These are still 'as written' with no personal adjustments yet, but still the default tranny.
~Top Gear Test Track~
praiano63(2) : 1:06.476
dr_slump : 1:06.179
After the above 'as written' testing, I started toying around with both, to see which one I could adapt to my style most effectively. It did turn out that dr_slumps was still the quickest for me, as I managed to shave 2 more tenths resulting in my current personal best of 1:05.929.
My first adjustments were to take out a little of ride height and rake, to help the car feel a bit more stable. Then I lowered the LSD Accel setting, to reduce outside wheel spin, but left enough of it, to use on acceleration oversteer, to carry the car through the wide sweepers at this track.
Ride Height: -31 / -18
LSD: 8/19/5
Brake Bal: 10 / 3
These 3 small adjustments, allowed me to finally break the 5's and I feel these adjustments have made the tune far more consistent & reliable, as well as a lot less likely to cause you any major mistakes. I can run lap after lap with no major issues, resulting in lap times that are all .6 or .7's. I still make an error or 2 here and there, but now it just costs me some forward bite, rather than creating a catastrophic wreck that all of the other tunes resulted in, when they hit the boiling point.
I started experimenting with Shock Adjustments, with some success, but I need another oil change as I'm down 30 HP again, and that's enough to start effecting lap times noticeably. So tomorrow, I'll refresh the oil and run some more laps, with different shock packages, and possibly take the car to a different track. Maybe work on a transmission tune as well.
Edit: Changed the oil and ran 1:05.662
~Top Gear Test Track~
praiano63(2) : 1:06.476
dr_slump : 1:06.179
After the above 'as written' testing, I started toying around with both, to see which one I could adapt to my style most effectively. It did turn out that dr_slumps was still the quickest for me, as I managed to shave 2 more tenths resulting in my current personal best of 1:05.929.
My first adjustments were to take out a little of ride height and rake, to help the car feel a bit more stable. Then I lowered the LSD Accel setting, to reduce outside wheel spin, but left enough of it, to use on acceleration oversteer, to carry the car through the wide sweepers at this track.
Ride Height: -31 / -18
LSD: 8/19/5
Brake Bal: 10 / 3
These 3 small adjustments, allowed me to finally break the 5's and I feel these adjustments have made the tune far more consistent & reliable, as well as a lot less likely to cause you any major mistakes. I can run lap after lap with no major issues, resulting in lap times that are all .6 or .7's. I still make an error or 2 here and there, but now it just costs me some forward bite, rather than creating a catastrophic wreck that all of the other tunes resulted in, when they hit the boiling point.
I started experimenting with Shock Adjustments, with some success, but I need another oil change as I'm down 30 HP again, and that's enough to start effecting lap times noticeably. So tomorrow, I'll refresh the oil and run some more laps, with different shock packages, and possibly take the car to a different track. Maybe work on a transmission tune as well.
Edit: Changed the oil and ran 1:05.662
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dr_slump
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Thank you very much for the great comparison.👍
I'm really happy to see that my tune is the fastest.
(This car fits with my driving style and is one of my favourits)
I'm curious how your tweaks work. I'll test it on different tracks.
(I don't like TGTT, have a look at post 23)
Thank you very much for the great comparison.👍
I'm really happy to see that my tune is the fastest.
Yeah, like I said:
(This car fits with my driving style and is one of my favourits)I'm curious how your tweaks work. I'll test it on different tracks.
(I don't like TGTT, have a look at post 23)
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No_OBsT33R
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Thanks for checking out the Tune. I'm glad it's achieved the Project goal. This car is so much fun.
I'm surprised it came so close in that Camparo despite the extra weight
it does much better at tracks like the 'Ring GP/F where going off track kills yah.
The car is maxed out and fully rebuilt with added rigidity. The tires are R but it will also handle SS tires if you have good throttle control.
It's designed for all aids off aside from ABS. SRF should be off for all testing and comparos please. Using SRF defeats some of the benefits of the Tune vs others. TCS also kills it.
I'll update it to state RR (left over in the tune sheet from last car done) and include all the other info. I thought I did full weight reductions, but I'll check it out, if so the tune can only get faster, but being the quickest wasn't the goal, being the most balanced, stable, consistent, while still feeling like a YB was. A few tenths off from lighter edition set ups (and faster then a few ) is pretty alright.
Thanks to everybody that checked out the Project, thanks to all who contributed to the thread. Keep an eye out for more of my Tunes.
I'm surprised it came so close in that Camparo despite the extra weight
it does much better at tracks like the 'Ring GP/F where going off track kills yah. The car is maxed out and fully rebuilt with added rigidity. The tires are R but it will also handle SS tires if you have good throttle control.
It's designed for all aids off aside from ABS. SRF should be off for all testing and comparos please. Using SRF defeats some of the benefits of the Tune vs others. TCS also kills it.
I'll update it to state RR (left over in the tune sheet from last car done) and include all the other info. I thought I did full weight reductions, but I'll check it out, if so the tune can only get faster, but being the quickest wasn't the goal, being the most balanced, stable, consistent, while still feeling like a YB was. A few tenths off from lighter edition set ups (and faster then a few
) is pretty alright.Thanks to everybody that checked out the Project, thanks to all who contributed to the thread. Keep an eye out for more of my Tunes.
dr_slump
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I gave your impressions a go and the track was TGTT
,Suzuka and GVS.
Yes, TGTT is a bumpy track!
Acceleration too high? Funny, I started with 6/55/20
Seriously? It's a good idea and it works relatively well on your test track (TGTT), but try it when your braking for the first corner of GVS or the hairpin of Suzuka. My front tires are 🤬 with sensitivity 10 and ABS 1.
Final: My tune is 🤬🤬 to drive and works best on flat tracks (except Eigernordwand, it's great on that). Thank you for your input and I'll see what I can do with the LSD (brake is already changed from 6/3 to 8/3). Maybe I'll do sometimes a Nordschleife tune for bumpy tracks.
Thank you!👍
,Suzuka and GVS.Works well on this track, but it has less grip on flat tracks like Suzuka or GVS.
Yes, TGTT is a bumpy track!
Wow, big difference! It's a lot easier to drive and she goes better trough very tight corners. Good for TTGT (2-3 tenths faster) and not bad for the other tracks (just a little bit slower). I think it depends on the driving style.
Acceleration too high? Funny, I started with 6/55/20
Seriously? It's a good idea and it works relatively well on your test track (TGTT), but try it when your braking for the first corner of GVS or the hairpin of Suzuka. My front tires are 🤬 with sensitivity 10 and ABS 1.Final: My tune is 🤬🤬 to drive and works best on flat tracks (except Eigernordwand, it's great on that). Thank you for your input and I'll see what I can do with the LSD (brake is already changed from 6/3 to 8/3). Maybe I'll do sometimes a Nordschleife tune for bumpy tracks.
Thank you!👍
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Great job !! I'll try it too, but for me also ,not on this track . This is the bad thing of this game, you alway try to drive earning some money to buy all this cars, and finish to perform almost this Roma and deep forest tracks where you make a good cash in five laps.. Congratulations..
No_OBsT33R
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guitrsol93I've been following this thread for a while, and I have to say, I was very excited to try out this tune
You definitely achieved your goal!! It was so much easier to drive than the original that I was elated. I'm by no means close to being a good driver, but in the stock Yellowbird, I managed to successfully drive 4 clean laps out of 32 on the 'ring. (I gave up after that.) With this I'm getting a consistent 7/10.
Consistency and control were achieved by your tune, although it's not the tamest thing I've driven. However, the control does take a bit of the 'fun' out of driving a yellowbird (but it also takes out the frustration) haha
Anyway, congrats on your tune! I really enjoyed trying it out~
FlipowanThanks very much No_OBsT33R!!!
I appreciate your work and really enjoy the tune. Couldn´t get the birdy straight with my own tunes, yours cheered up my day
Thanks!!!!!! There are plenty faster cars in the game, getting a YB driver friendly to the general driver I don't think has been done before, and seemed the biggest tuning challenge in the game. On top of being so driver friendly only a few tenths off when compared to others that don't have the baggage. G-Damn. I'd like to see how it would compare with other drivers doing comparisons
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Please keep the nature of the Project in mind, this thread is not about tuning the fastest YB possible. I appreciate all the post, but feel the thread getting a little derailed.
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Nice name, I just HAD to look at this thread well done
dr_slump
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Me?
Yes, the goal for my tune was to be as fast as possible, but it's also a lot easier to drive!
Of course, your tune is just unbelieveable balanced and stable. You hit the point!👍
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Your tune
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5236851#post5236851
With the LSD accel = 28 only
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5236851#post5236851
With the LSD accel = 28 only
No_OBsT33R
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I was directing that to Adrenalin, felt he was going off track, not sure but I think he don't like me after some banter in another thread. He's entitled to though, either way I wan to keep on the Project not assist tested times that defeat the benefits of the tune.
Thanks, we defiantly should. Sside from the YB what's is the next least driver friendly road car???
praiano63
Thanks, we defiantly should. Sside from the YB what's is the next least driver friendly road car???
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)No_OBsT33R
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dr_slumpYeah, next time with the seriel killer: Ford GT40!!!
Hmmm GT40 you say. I love the history of that car. Sounds like a great idea. I'm working on a LFA at the moment. When done I'll get on that. Feel free to kick off the Project or I'll get to it after the LFA.
No_OBsT33R
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dr_slumpEhhmm, I'm not very good in this and your first page looks so good.
But if you don't want to do this, I could eventually.....
Anyway, I'll make the tune first.
No prob, I'll take care of it. Glad you like the look of the OP, even though the YB is a standard, she sure is photogenic.
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Ok, moving on to a different track. I chose Deep Forest because it's a fun track that has a multitude of differentiating corners and some nice variations of elevation changes. These all come together to create a solid testing track.
Still sticking with dr_slump's tune. I removed my adjustments and put it back to 'as written' including your updated changes. First off, you're correct about the high speed breaking. Turn 1 of Deep Forest is a smaller version of GVS, so I definitely see what you're saying about the brake balance. I think even your updated 8/3 is a bit much for that type of breaking. I'd probably raise the rear bias, to help keep some weight off the front tires, because the right front is definitely heating up and kills grip for the first turn. So I agree with you on that aspect.
Through this track, there's a handful of medium speed corners, where you really start to notice the understeer of the car. Again, I assume this is due to the high rake you've incorporated into the tune. A certain amount is great for forward traction and weight transfer, but too much and the car wants to push.
The elevation changes of this track, really exploit the, what I feel, major weakness of your tune, which is again, the LSD set up. 8/49/18 is just too high I think and it makes it rather difficult to get to full throttle when trying to exit those sweeping corners. Even up the straight leading to the tunnel, that slight turn proves to be hazardous under full throttle.
I ran 10 laps and put up a best time of 1:12:947
Then I put back my adjustments from the previous post:
LSD: 8/19/5
Ride Height: -31 / -18
Brake Balance: 7/5 (Changed, due to the knowledge gained from above)
Ran another 10 laps and put up a new best of 1:12.053.
Now, the lap times aren't nearly as important to me, as the amount of control you gain over the car. You don't have to baby sit the throttle in paranoia. One thing I notice, is the car still has a tendency to understeer on this track, but I don't feel like rake is the answer. I think an adjustment to springs is probably the next step.
1:11.957 Toe Adjustment.
More agile, more stable, under steer still present, but less drastic
1:11:980 Spring adjustment results in the same lap times, but a much safer and more comfortable feel on the road. A bit more overall grip, feel wise. Really helps the car rotate through the center, but I'd play with the Front to Back ratio with more time. Most importantly, this adjustment makes the car muuuuuuch friendlier over bumps!
A shock swap results in the best time yet of 1:11:848. This change seems to most effect corner exit, making it just a bit cleaner off of the corners.
Then lastly, I'll have to play with sway bars, to try and balance out that understeer I'm experiencing. Once I've chosen sway bars, I'll re-adjust LSD and Brake Balance to accommodated for all of the changes above.
Gunna take a break, then head to GVS for the final test.
Still sticking with dr_slump's tune. I removed my adjustments and put it back to 'as written' including your updated changes. First off, you're correct about the high speed breaking. Turn 1 of Deep Forest is a smaller version of GVS, so I definitely see what you're saying about the brake balance. I think even your updated 8/3 is a bit much for that type of breaking. I'd probably raise the rear bias, to help keep some weight off the front tires, because the right front is definitely heating up and kills grip for the first turn. So I agree with you on that aspect.
Through this track, there's a handful of medium speed corners, where you really start to notice the understeer of the car. Again, I assume this is due to the high rake you've incorporated into the tune. A certain amount is great for forward traction and weight transfer, but too much and the car wants to push.
The elevation changes of this track, really exploit the, what I feel, major weakness of your tune, which is again, the LSD set up. 8/49/18 is just too high I think and it makes it rather difficult to get to full throttle when trying to exit those sweeping corners. Even up the straight leading to the tunnel, that slight turn proves to be hazardous under full throttle.
I ran 10 laps and put up a best time of 1:12:947
Then I put back my adjustments from the previous post:
LSD: 8/19/5
Ride Height: -31 / -18
Brake Balance: 7/5 (Changed, due to the knowledge gained from above)
Ran another 10 laps and put up a new best of 1:12.053.
Now, the lap times aren't nearly as important to me, as the amount of control you gain over the car. You don't have to baby sit the throttle in paranoia. One thing I notice, is the car still has a tendency to understeer on this track, but I don't feel like rake is the answer. I think an adjustment to springs is probably the next step.
1:11.957 Toe Adjustment.
More agile, more stable, under steer still present, but less drastic
1:11:980 Spring adjustment results in the same lap times, but a much safer and more comfortable feel on the road. A bit more overall grip, feel wise. Really helps the car rotate through the center, but I'd play with the Front to Back ratio with more time. Most importantly, this adjustment makes the car muuuuuuch friendlier over bumps!
A shock swap results in the best time yet of 1:11:848. This change seems to most effect corner exit, making it just a bit cleaner off of the corners.
Then lastly, I'll have to play with sway bars, to try and balance out that understeer I'm experiencing. Once I've chosen sway bars, I'll re-adjust LSD and Brake Balance to accommodated for all of the changes above.
Gunna take a break, then head to GVS for the final test.
No_OBsT33R
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Do you mind starting your own tread please, for all your testing and whatever. I personally feel your an SRF user (could be wrong, but that's my opinion, your welcome to prove me wrong. No hard feelings ) my tune is not for assist user, and I don't feel you do testing I would agree with, I also disagree with your manner of posting, you seem very insulting and condescending with an overly high opinion of your own opinion. Feel free to test it in your own thread and dissect it all you want make sure to point out every flaw you can find, cause you know best (as if). Sheeeesh. Learn to drive with no assist first, then do some testing.
) my tune is not for assist user, and I don't feel you do testing I would agree with, I also disagree with your manner of posting, you seem very insulting and condescending with an overly high opinion of your own opinion. Feel free to test it in your own thread and dissect it all you want make sure to point out every flaw you can find, cause you know best (as if). Sheeeesh. Learn to drive with no assist first, then do some testing.
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I'm in Mister fast adrenaline. I like this deep forest and i'll earn a good money during the test to buy my Lambo also ... I follow you if you moove on another Thread, it will be very exiting. This is the best part, when "WE" have an actual good setting for the RUF Y.bird (congratulation dr_slump), it will be a great pleasure to make it better and better on track with everybody helping .
This car is beginning to be one of the most fantastic car of the game.. and it's just the beginning.
This car is beginning to be one of the most fantastic car of the game.. and it's just the beginning.
No_OBsT33R
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praiano63
I'm glad you guys love the car, I hope your testing is fun and goes well in another thread. Thanks for stoping by my Project. Good luck with your own thread.
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Well praiano, some credit does go to you, (and RJ too) as I've copied some of your settings, over to my personal tune. Including your Toe settings and Shocks. I will say, that I think dr_slump had an unfair advantage, in that he used the ballast... 'trick'? I'm not sure what to call it, but using the 0kg ballast at his -50 position definitely does help. So you might want to experiment with that. As for your tune and my recommendations...
I'm not a fan of 'follow the leader' but every other tune, used a higher rear spring ratio than front. I assume there's a reason, but even so, your tune was still one of the fastest.
As mentioned earlier, I think your LSD is too conservative, but that can be in part due to the soft rear spring you went with.
The way I read it, your camber values are .3 and .2, which is really, really low.
And finally, you also chose not to use any rake, which I've found to really help this car retain traction under acceleration.
So, play with some of those settings and let me know what you come up with.
I'll post back about the GVS results when I'm finished with them.
No_OBsT33R
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AdrenalineI'll post back about the GVS results when I'm finished with them.
Not in this thread please. For the last time stop derailing the thread. Practice what you preach and open your own thread all about your testing
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Okay, Grand Valley Speedway. I chose this one over Suzuka, because I'm more familiar with it, and the results should be more accurate. But this is a nice smooth track, with a few hairpins to keep things interesting. Combined with the nature of TGTT and Deep Forest, these 3 together, should put the car through just about everything it'll go through, with maybe the exception of Nurb.
So, before I even hit the first corner, I realized I was in big trouble. I'm Redlining before I even hit the start finish line, lol. The default transmission is definitely not going to work for the long straight of GVS. I put 4 laps in and my best with the default tranny was 1:50.754. Your screen shot had you running 1:49.334 which is a very impressive lap, kudos on that. 5 full seconds ahead of noobster's GVS lap times, which speaks volumes for your tune, as well as your driving. Congrats on both the tune and the driving dr_slump.
In the first few laps, I only had 1 real issue. Unlike the other tracks where I had a handful of things I thought could be adjusted, the only problem I had on GVS with your tune, was the LSD and outside wheel spin giving me a hard time getting to full throttle on corner exit again. But other than that, this tune felt great. This yellowbird is starting to impress me. It's not a bad car, it's just misunderstood
So... I installed your transmission tune for now, to make sure the redlining isn't masking any lap time differences between the upcoming comparison.
I tried to get as close as I could to your posted gears, which was 193mph, which allows me to get gears 2-6 on target, but I couldn't get first to match up, but put it as close as I could. Final still at 2.886, so everything should be the exact same as far as running laps goes. I put a solid 5 laps in and the best I can run is 1:50.046 with the transmission update. I will admit, that these taller gears, definitely help traction out of the hairpins, especially when utilizing 2nd gear, which helped make the car a bit more tame when on the gas, so I could have been unfair previously, since I was using a different gear set up, my apologies.
Moving on to the adjustments we've been working through thus far... I battled back and forth with my ghost for about 7 laps and came up with a 1:49.506. With your gears, it makes my adjustments feel rather under-steery, so I really understand the comments you made previously when you applied my recommendations, because my adjustments and your gears, make it feel very different then when used separately. But, overall, I still feel like these adjustments make the driver feel far more confident around the track as a whole. It's a lot less likely to put you into a race ending wipe out. I either need to adjust gears, to match my tune, or, adjust the ballast position with your gears to remove some of the understeer. In fact, thinking back, a simple adjustment to the ballast position could have helped in both previous tracks, where I mentioned a slight issue with the overall balance that I was looking for. I'm going to try both and see what happens.
Started with the ballast, because it was the easiest. I tried it at -25 with no real noticeable effect. Reset it all the way back to 0 and then I get a small change. It seems to help the car on late middle, through the exit. It was an impressive battle between me and my ghost back and forth, but the new ballast position really paid off on the very last turn, heading down the long straight. The lap difference was minimal, but overall feel was gained, which could clearly be seen when you watch my car side by side with the ghost, you can really see the difference, even as small as it was. The lap time was only a 1:49.456, but like I said, the feel alone is enough to justify it to me.
So if I were to keep your gears, I'd add an optional ballast. I've discussed this in other threads, to easily adapt to driver preferences, even if only within a small margin.
Use X tune. For drivers who prefer the car to be more stable, on the understeer side, use 0kg ballast at the -50 position. If you like the car to have a nice neutral feel, keep the ballast at the 0 location. If you like to live on the edge and feel that oversteer, move it back to the +25 or even +50 position. Move it around, find what feels best for your personal needs.
Option 2... gearing!
After toying with the gears, I ran some laps and noticed the LSD was no longer balanced with the rest of the tune. With the ballast still at 0/0 I upped the LSD initial to 15. This resulted in my new best 1:48.878, but the rear tires were a bit too even and causing some on-throttle understeer. So I upped the LSD accel just 1 tick, to 20. It feels good overall, but I'm still having issues with a push. I need to find a way to get the front end more grip. Either with toe, camber or springs, possibly even sways, but I haven't had any success changing the sway bars yet.
I'm gunna talk with RJ and see if he can help me out. I'm not really much of a tuner, I just use trial and error, feel and lap times. So I'm open to suggestions. 1 more tweak or 2 and then I'll take the most recent draft back to the first 2 tracks, and make sure it still runs quick laps at both of those tracks. Then I'll post up the finalized version, which should be the best combination of control and speed, which as I recall, was the goal of this project.
So, before I even hit the first corner, I realized I was in big trouble. I'm Redlining before I even hit the start finish line, lol. The default transmission is definitely not going to work for the long straight of GVS. I put 4 laps in and my best with the default tranny was 1:50.754. Your screen shot had you running 1:49.334 which is a very impressive lap, kudos on that. 5 full seconds ahead of noobster's GVS lap times, which speaks volumes for your tune, as well as your driving. Congrats on both the tune and the driving dr_slump.
In the first few laps, I only had 1 real issue. Unlike the other tracks where I had a handful of things I thought could be adjusted, the only problem I had on GVS with your tune, was the LSD and outside wheel spin giving me a hard time getting to full throttle on corner exit again. But other than that, this tune felt great. This yellowbird is starting to impress me. It's not a bad car, it's just misunderstood
So... I installed your transmission tune for now, to make sure the redlining isn't masking any lap time differences between the upcoming comparison.
I tried to get as close as I could to your posted gears, which was 193mph, which allows me to get gears 2-6 on target, but I couldn't get first to match up, but put it as close as I could. Final still at 2.886, so everything should be the exact same as far as running laps goes. I put a solid 5 laps in and the best I can run is 1:50.046 with the transmission update. I will admit, that these taller gears, definitely help traction out of the hairpins, especially when utilizing 2nd gear, which helped make the car a bit more tame when on the gas, so I could have been unfair previously, since I was using a different gear set up, my apologies.
Moving on to the adjustments we've been working through thus far... I battled back and forth with my ghost for about 7 laps and came up with a 1:49.506. With your gears, it makes my adjustments feel rather under-steery, so I really understand the comments you made previously when you applied my recommendations, because my adjustments and your gears, make it feel very different then when used separately. But, overall, I still feel like these adjustments make the driver feel far more confident around the track as a whole. It's a lot less likely to put you into a race ending wipe out. I either need to adjust gears, to match my tune, or, adjust the ballast position with your gears to remove some of the understeer. In fact, thinking back, a simple adjustment to the ballast position could have helped in both previous tracks, where I mentioned a slight issue with the overall balance that I was looking for. I'm going to try both and see what happens.
Started with the ballast, because it was the easiest. I tried it at -25 with no real noticeable effect. Reset it all the way back to 0 and then I get a small change. It seems to help the car on late middle, through the exit. It was an impressive battle between me and my ghost back and forth, but the new ballast position really paid off on the very last turn, heading down the long straight. The lap difference was minimal, but overall feel was gained, which could clearly be seen when you watch my car side by side with the ghost, you can really see the difference, even as small as it was. The lap time was only a 1:49.456, but like I said, the feel alone is enough to justify it to me.
So if I were to keep your gears, I'd add an optional ballast. I've discussed this in other threads, to easily adapt to driver preferences, even if only within a small margin.
Use X tune. For drivers who prefer the car to be more stable, on the understeer side, use 0kg ballast at the -50 position. If you like the car to have a nice neutral feel, keep the ballast at the 0 location. If you like to live on the edge and feel that oversteer, move it back to the +25 or even +50 position. Move it around, find what feels best for your personal needs.
Option 2... gearing!
After toying with the gears, I ran some laps and noticed the LSD was no longer balanced with the rest of the tune. With the ballast still at 0/0 I upped the LSD initial to 15. This resulted in my new best 1:48.878, but the rear tires were a bit too even and causing some on-throttle understeer. So I upped the LSD accel just 1 tick, to 20. It feels good overall, but I'm still having issues with a push. I need to find a way to get the front end more grip. Either with toe, camber or springs, possibly even sways, but I haven't had any success changing the sway bars yet.
I'm gunna talk with RJ and see if he can help me out. I'm not really much of a tuner, I just use trial and error, feel and lap times. So I'm open to suggestions. 1 more tweak or 2 and then I'll take the most recent draft back to the first 2 tracks, and make sure it still runs quick laps at both of those tracks. Then I'll post up the finalized version, which should be the best combination of control and speed, which as I recall, was the goal of this project.
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Before testing a setting, you should know, a transmission has a huge affect to understeer/oversteer. The transmission that is used from dr_slump is causing understeer..
To get the same ratio as he had. Set at first the final to 5500, than the top speed to 200km/h (124mph). And only after those two steps you will get the same ratio and effect. I personally would never use such a transmission on a yellow bird.
No_OBsT33R
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Wow this guy is too much........
Please just ignore Adrenalin and his SRF testing, he's been asked to take it to another thread, but he's more interested in instigating, it's unfortunate that he is so immature. He's upset I blew up the fact he's a SRF user and he's acting like an upset child. It's not a big deal, when you grow up Adrenalin, the training wheels will eventually come off. Eventually you will have the masculinity to take criticism without the need to retaliate with your own criticism.
Essentially Adrenalin has been dogging my thread ever since I commented against him in another thread.
Sad, so petty...
Please just ignore Adrenalin and his SRF testing, he's been asked to take it to another thread, but he's more interested in instigating, it's unfortunate that he is so immature. He's upset I blew up the fact he's a SRF user and he's acting like an upset child. It's not a big deal, when you grow up Adrenalin, the training wheels will eventually come off. Eventually you will have the masculinity to take criticism without the need to retaliate with your own criticism.
Essentially Adrenalin has been dogging my thread ever since I commented against him in another thread.
Sad, so petty...
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