PS3 General Discussion

I much preffered the NFL 2K series as well. Before EA bought out the rights to NASCAR games, I thought Monster Games' NASCAR HEAT, and then NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona were far better games than any of EA's NASCAR games, even today... and HEAT is over five years old already! Go figure.

Oh yeah, no next-gen Nascar titles has me mad. They now have the chance to have hi-res textures, better crashes, all 43 cars on a track, 3D crowds, etc. And yet they stick with last-gen. :mad:
 
Oh yeah, no next-gen Nascar titles has me mad. They now have the chance to have hi-res textures, better crashes, all 43 cars on a track, 3D crowds, etc. And yet they stick with last-gen. :mad:

Rednecks haven't bought ps3s yet and they're still trying to git theer exBox180s done.
 
Rednecks haven't bought ps3s yet and they're still trying to git theer exBox180s done.
hehehe... is it OK to laugh at that... because I so want to! Oh what the heck, screw PC... :lol:


For the record though... I do enjoy the adrenaline factor of NASCAR and seeing 43 cars rubbing paint at 200+ mph... and at least the NASCAR games from Monster Games were really good, even if you despise NASCAR. 👍
 
Digital-Nitrate, I was referring specifically to transferring files from PC to console, as in the case of streaming video. Even 1080p video uses only a fraction of the available speed.

For online gaming, it probably wouldn't make much difference, I agree. Unless you've got a lousy connection and your router keeps dropping you. Which only ever happened to me once on my wired connection, and that was after a power outage, I just had to reset the router.

For home networking, I would always reccomend a hard-wired connection for anything that won't be travelling with you around (or outside) the house. I have my XBOX hard-wired, for example, and the PS3 I'll eventually get will be that way, too.

I do agree about wireless being "good enough" for most applications. Most people can't afford the proper wiring of their house anyway, and 802.11g is far, far better then the 802.11b from before. I just prefer the security of a wired connection. I have yet to be dropped from a wall jack. ;)


Doesn't the 360 run some form of Windows? That is your answer.

So true, so true....
 
I may be the only person on earth that doesn't get giddy over Sudoku puzzles. ;) The kind of puzzles I most enjoy are problem solving engineering type... which is why I enjoyed the Myst games so much. 👍
Ever played Deja Vu?
Digital-Nitrate
Go figure. Unfortunately, like NFL 2K, EA has monopolized NASCAR games, and the "HEAT" series ended in 2002.
EGM said that there is a chance that EA may lose the NFL licence outright when the contract expires, so we may be in luck.
 
Digital-Nitrate
Never heard of it. Is it a PC or console game?
Well, actually, it started out as an Apple IIGS MacVenture game, was ported to the original Mac (or maybe the other way around. I can't remember), then to a bunch of other computers (Commodore 64, for example), than it made its way to the Nintendo. In '99, it and its sequel Lost in Las Vegas made it to the Game Boy Color. I highly suggest it to be played. It was made by the same team (and plays similar to) the ShadowGate series.
Deja Vu.
Deja Vu II.
They both require a lot of lateral thinking, especially the second one. Sounds right up your alley.

Digital-Nitrate
That would be great news! When does their contract with the NFL expire?
I think it expires in 2010.
 
Thanks for the rec Toronado, I'll definitely check it out.


802.11g is far, far better then the 802.11b from before.
And now we have 802.11n. 👍👍

That reminds me, what type of IEEE 802.11x modem is in the 60GB PS3? I looked through the manual and came up empty.


EDIT: It looks like it is an 802.11 b/g.
 
4 more maaden incarnations beore the license is up. The NFL was stupid for giving EA the exclusive. I miss 2K5 and that game still has better looking plaer models than madden 07 on 360....
 
The videos for that MLB07 look spectacular. Though whether we'd be able to get that in the UK is another matter.
 
4 more maaden incarnations beore the license is up. The NFL was stupid for giving EA the exclusive. I miss 2K5 and that game still has better looking plaer models than madden 07 on 360....

2K5 ruled. It destroyed Madden 05 easily, and for $30 less!

That game is a prime example what can happen with non-EA sports games.
 
2K5 ruled. It destroyed Madden 05 easily, and for $30 less!

That game is a prime example what can happen with non-EA sports games.
I was playing 2K5 up until this past weekend. I can't bring myself to pay $50-$60 a year for basically the same thing I already have. A $20 game I would do that for.
 
Which is exactly why I'm kind of angry at Sony. You think they would've stuck an N in there... oh well.
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Besides the fact that 802.11g has a transfer rate of up to 54 Mbit/s (that's more than ten times the max rate of the best broadband cable connection), and has a range of ~100ft... but more importantly, why be angry when the fact is that it was only last week that the 802.11 Working Group approved a request for the new draft of the proposed 802.11n standard and that they do not expect final approval until April 2008. It's hard to stick something in there that wasn't even available. ;)
 
802.11g has a transfer rate of up to 54 Mbit/s

100Mb/s ethernet FTW. :)

Oh, and by the way, everything is now ready for the Arrival. I've got HDMI cables, optical cables, a Blu-ray remote, and even a Blu-ray movie. None of which I can use just yet.. lol.

The guy at Best Buy said they usually get PS3s every couple of weeks. They ARE receiving 20GB units, but the 60GBs outnumber them almost ten to one in the shipments. He said they recently had a stack of PS3s just sitting there for about two weeks, but they're gone now. Says they barely upack the Wiis before they're gone.

My hunt for a 20GB is going to be pretty interesting, once everything else is set (i.e. the money) and I really start looking.

And if you were wondering, no, I didn't buy the cables at Best Buy, I got those online, they just happened to arrive today. I did find Best Buy's prices hilarious, though. Six-foot HDMI cable at Best Buy was around $85. The "PS3" HDMI cable, slightly longer at two meters, was an even one hundred dollars. My six-foot HDMI cable? Six dollars and thirty-seven cents. :)
 
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Besides the fact that 802.11g has a transfer rate of up to 54 Mbit/s (that's more than ten times the max rate of the best broadband cable connection), and has a range of ~100ft... but more importantly, why be angry when the fact is that it was only last week that the 802.11 Working Group approved a request for the new draft of the proposed 802.11n standard and that they do not expect final approval until April 2008. It's hard to stick something in there that wasn't even available. ;)

:lol:!

You win. Although, I have seen 802.11n routers in stores for a long time now.
 
Couple questions:

1) Is the PS3 too big/heavy to stack on top of something else? Like, oh... an Xbox360? After careful consideration of my entertainment setup's layout, it's going to go on that side, very near the 360. Or on top of it?

2) I've just heard a disturbing report... that the PS3's audio isn't constant, that it will cut off the sound feed to the receiver if there's no sound being generated (i.e. on the.. er.. dashboard whachicallit, probably not during games). Since most receivers take a moment to process the incoming sound, resulting in a pause before the sound in played, this could be a problem. Or at the very least, a very big annoyance. I found a way around it on the PS2, but I'm not sure about the PS3's settings in that regard, or whether it's something that can be avoided. Does anyone have this problem, or has anyone discovered a fix or workaround?

3) Does anybody have a link to one of those websites that ripped apart the PS3 to show us all the nifty techno-guts? I want to get a peek at the layout and cooling system.

4) There was probably another question supposed to go here, but I know I won't remember it until a split second after I tell my computer to shut down.

Thanks. :)
 
Couple questions:

1) Is the PS3 too big/heavy to stack on top of something else? Like, oh... an Xbox360? After careful consideration of my entertainment setup's layout, it's going to go on that side, very near the 360. Or on top of it?
Weight aside, I wouldn't advise putting two machines generating so much heat on top of each other - or next to, even. But, I've never done it before, so I don't know whether it'll cause any issues.

3) Does anybody have a link to one of those websites that ripped apart the PS3 to show us all the nifty techno-guts? I want to get a peek at the layout and cooling system.
Here you go.
 
1) Is the PS3 too big/heavy to stack on top of something else? Like, oh... an Xbox360? After careful consideration of my entertainment setup's layout, it's going to go on that side, very near the 360. Or on top of it?
As has been said, it is very unwise to place equipment that generate a lot of heat near one another, especially one on top of the other without any barrier. This is especially bad for the equipment on the top as it will be drawing in the heat generated by the equipment below it. This is recipe for disaster!

That being said, it is also a good idea when placing equipment on a vertical rack to place the equipment that generates the most heat on the top shelves, so their heat wont reach the equipment below.

I have designed a few equipment rack systems, and what I always advise is to run all the equipment for at least two hours, then using a localized thermostat, measure the heat output from each device, this will not only help determine the best location to place each device, but it will tell you how much heat the entire rack of equipment is going to generate, thus what type and how many fans you'll need.

2) I've just heard a disturbing report... that the PS3's audio isn't constant, that it will cut off the sound feed to the receiver if there's no sound being generated (i.e. on the.. er.. dashboard whachicallit, probably not during games). Since most receivers take a moment to process the incoming sound, resulting in a pause before the sound in played, this could be a problem. Or at the very least, a very big annoyance. I found a way around it on the PS2, but I'm not sure about the PS3's settings in that regard, or whether it's something that can be avoided. Does anyone have this problem, or has anyone discovered a fix or workaround?
I have not experienced this so unfortunately I do not have an answer.

3) Does anybody have a link to one of those websites that ripped apart the PS3 to show us all the nifty techno-guts? I want to get a peek at the layout and cooling system.
Looks like you got the link. What really separates the PS3 from the XB360 is that marvelously designed heat sink and case:

3000_large_heatsink.jpg


4) There was probably another question supposed to go here, but I know I won't remember it until a split second after I tell my computer to shut down.
:) I think this happens to all of us... and it only gets worse with age. ;)
 
Well, I wouldn't have both of them running at the same time.. hehe.

It just seems the logical place to put the thing. Here's my setup: I have a small-ish TV stand. It has only one shelf inside of it. On the bottom is my receiver, on the shelf is my DVD player. The sides of the TV stand are taken up by storage space for DVDs, where I have most of my TV seasons on DVD (to free up space on my actual DVD rack). Those shelves are too small to put anything else on. The top of the stand contains the TV itself (47" LCD) and the center speaker.

To the right of the stand is the subwoofer. To the left of the stand is the Xbox360, sitting horizontal on top of it's own box. On the outside of these two items are two floor speakers that are unused, but they act as "stands" for the two front satellite speakers.

On the inside of these two items, directly next to the TV stand, there's a small space that could theoretically fit a PS3 standing vertical. I don't want to put it right next to the subwoofer due to the vibrations that it generates. Which leaves putting it vertical next to the Xbox's box. But, I'm not sure if that's the best place, since it's low to the ground, with one side on carpet, and may not provide the best ventilation. For the same reason, I can't move the Xbox to the floor vertically because it would block the ventilation on the side of the unit. Hence the idea of putting it on top of the Xbox.

The only other place to put it would be inside the TV stand where the DVD player is, but that would severely limit it's ventilation, since the stand is open only on the front (I didn't install the glass door).

Also, the PS3 must be within a few feet of the Xbox for the optical cable connection. I have only one optical input on my receiver, and I bought a splitter so I can use both the Xbox and PS3 with optical out. But two of my three optical cables are only three feet long, and the six-foot cable is almost certainly going to be the one leading to the receiver, because of it's location in the center of the setup.

I'll try to upload a picture of my setup if I can get my camera to take anything but a crappy photo. It's old.

Thanks for the link, G.T. :)
 
Is there enough room for you to have both the XB360 & PS3 placed vertically next to each other?

It's possible, yes.. I could put them both on top of the 360's box, side-by-side. I just like the idea of having it horizontal, especially the PS3 and it's slot-loading drive. Just seems "better" to have it horizontal. I dunno.
 
It's possible, yes.. I could put them both on top of the 360's box, side-by-side. I just like the idea of having it horizontal, especially the PS3 and it's slot-loading drive. Just seems "better" to have it horizontal. I dunno.

Actually, slot loading drives are safer than tray loading, so horizontal or vertical, it makes no difference. Trays are where the problems lie, since the drive rely's on the trey to hold it to insert in the drive, when it's "lifted" from the tray, if it tips or wobbles it hits the tray. With slot loading, there is no tray, thus no risk of ruining your disc.

:) Slot-loading ftw.
 
Question...When I get a PS3, could I import an old PS2 game that was never released in the U.S. and have the region free PS3 work?
 
Actually, slot loading drives are safer than tray loading,
Unless they are in a college library computer lab and all teh middle-aged non-traditional students come in to use a computer for the first time ever and think that is where the floppy disk goes (8-9 years ago).

Sorry, I just had a bad flashback of opening CD drives to get floppy discs out and praying they didn't screw up the laser. :nervous:
 
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