PS3 General Discussion

[Jeremy Ricci]

Yea, I'm having problems with PSN right now as well (also posting from PS3, so I know it's not a connection problem). I think it could possibly be to more upgrades as rumored by some former associates of mine. We'll see in a few hours. From what I was "told" by people I cannot mention, Sony is apparently trying to compensate for their lack of preperation during the launch, which could either mean heavy server maintanence, or simply adding a few more servers to increase bandwidth amongst them all. Who knows! I just know I'm sad becauser I really REALLY want to play Resistance right now.

 

[Vonie]

I'm so cool. I picked up Resistance and I don't even have a PS3 yet!

 

[TigJackson]

Dunno. I moved my PS3 into another room, and so I won't have any online until I figure out how to get Wi-Fi on it.

Well, I figured out how to get Wi-Fi on it the first day that I got it, and found out almost immediately, that it is practically useless. The problem is that the only way that I could actually do anything useful, like downloading firmware updates, or demos through PSN was to hard-wire the PS3 to my router. About the only thing I could do with a wireless PS3 connection was to browse the web, which I can do about....100 times more efficiently with my PC.

This system needs lots of work. If there is some downtime, I hope it results in a better system than the one we presently have access to. If Sony improves their network, and settles up with Immersion, it may make this $600 boat anchor a bit more palatable. If not, it is gone.

 

[DuckRacer]

Yea, I'm having problems with PSN right now as well (also posting from PS3, so I know it's not a connection problem). I think it could possibly be to more upgrades as rumored by some former associates of mine. We'll see in a few hours. From what I was "told" by people I cannot mention, Sony is apparently trying to compensate for their lack of preperation during the launch, which could either mean heavy server maintanence, or simply adding a few more servers to increase bandwidth amongst them all. Who knows! I just know I'm sad becauser I really REALLY want to play Resistance right now.

Single player?

But seriously, if they're adding a lot more servers and thus would fix my downloads... w00t! That would actually convince me to hook up my PS3 to the internets again.

I'm so cool. I picked up Resistance and I don't even have a PS3 yet!

That's pretty dumb. Unless you're getting a PS3 tomorrow or something, you could get Resistance for cheaper in, say, 6 months from now when you'd potentially get it. And then you wouldn't have to dust something off regularly.

 

[Vonie]

That's pretty dumb. Unless you're getting a PS3 tomorrow or something, you could get Resistance for cheaper in, say, 6 months from now when you'd potentially get it. And then you wouldn't have to dust something off regularly.

Well, all games are 25% off at Tower, so I jumped on it. I'd say it's pretty dumb to get a 20gb, too.

 

[Pako]

I'm so cool. I picked up Resistance and I don't even have a PS3 yet!

Now that's marketing at it's best!

Hope you get to play it soon, it's a cool game for sure.

 

[opendriver]

Ok, there have only been two times where I have almost chocked on something while I was eating in front of my computer:

1:The first GT:HD screenshots

2: This












Even though its not for sale, it show you what you can really do with the PS3

 

[Omnis]

Ok, there have only been two times where I have almost chocked on something while I was eating in front of my computer:

1:The first GT:HD screenshots

2: This

Even though its not for sale, it show you what you can really do with the PS3

Totally Chock.

 

[Dead_Poetic]

Haha, chock. LOL. But , its very cool. 750 GB, thats rather large.

 

[Pebb]

I would love to put a 1TB SATA HDD into the PS3, but it will be a while before we see a 2.5-inch SATA HDD being sold to the public at a good price.

 

[crooky369]

Well, I figured out how to get Wi-Fi on it the first day that I got it, and found out almost immediately, that it is practically useless. The problem is that the only way that I could actually do anything useful, like downloading firmware updates, or demos through PSN was to hard-wire the PS3 to my router. About the only thing I could do with a wireless PS3 connection was to browse the web, which I can do about....100 times more efficiently with my PC.

Does this mean you can only do network things on the ps3 when you hardwire it, such as the firmware and demos ?As wireless is really my only choice 👎

 

[DuckRacer]

Well, all games are 25% off at Tower, so I jumped on it. I'd say it's pretty dumb to get a 20gb, too.

There's a difference. Why would I pay $100 for broken Wi-Fi, extra space I don't need, and card readers?

But if you got Resistance for $45, then I retract my "that's dumb" comment.

I would love to put a 1TB SATA HDD into the PS3, but it will be a while before we see a 2.5-inch SATA HDD being sold to the public at a good price.

Do they even make 1TB laptop HDDs?

 

[Pebb]

There's a difference. Why would I pay $100 for broken Wi-Fi, extra space I don't need, and card readers?

But if you got Resistance for $45, then I retract my "that's dumb" comment.


Do they even make 1TB laptop HDDs?

I reckon somewhere there is 1TB being sold to people like: FBI, MI5, Armies, NASA and the Space Station.

 

[OZZYGT]

But if you got Resistance for $45, then I retract my "that's dumb" comment.

I got mine for $40 so Ha.

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Does anybody know of any Football (soccer) game coming out in the future for PS3?

 

[opendriver]

I think that fifa 07 might be coming out, but who knows

 

[DuckRacer]

I think that fifa 07 might be coming out, but who knows

There's no FIFA 07 coming to the PS3. I'm pretty sure the next Winning Eleven and FIFA 08 will be on it, however.

EDIT: Also, whenever you guys go to Target, Costco, Best Buy, etc, do you guys ever see any PS3s? According to seemingly everyone they're everywhere, yet whenever I go to Target there's none to be found.

 

[Vonie]

There's a difference. Why would I pay $100 for broken Wi-Fi, extra space I don't need, and card readers?

You for got the chrome, that makes it worth it.

But if you got Resistance for $45, then I retract my "that's dumb" comment.

Well it was $50.64 with shipping. By buying games before I get a PS3 I can wait for an awesome deal. I win.

 

[DuckRacer]

You for got the chrome, that makes it worth it.

Meh... I can barely tell the difference.

Also, Sony Japan released the details of firmware version 1.5 (translated version here).

...And the PS3 version of GRAW 2 is delayed.

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

There's a difference. Why would I pay $100 for broken Wi-Fi, extra space I don't need, and card readers?

But if you got Resistance for $45, then I retract my "that's dumb" comment.


Do they even make 1TB laptop HDDs?

Broken to who? Because a bunch of 13 year olds on PLaystation.com can't figure it out? Its all in the quality of your network and your knowledge of networking. If you've got a cheap D-Link router, then yes, it will suck. If you've got a garbage 1st gen linksys without firmware updates, with zero manual config, then yes, it will suck.

But broken? I can connect my PS3 to my mothers WiFi network from her 2nd floor office from the basement (that's 2 thick walls of interference). And it still picks up 75% signal. With some tweaking, I got it boosted to 88%. My friends WiFi was picking up 54%. I tweaked his network and got it up to 79%. It's all in knowledge. Not to mention the WiFi between PS3 and PSP is pretty darn good.

And for some, the card readers are awesome. I do a ton of digital photography, and have 2Gb cards in spades, and they are fast and effective. THey also make quick work of showing off photo's on the PS3.

As for the "space youd on't need" that's all your opinion, and nothing more. Personally, I like having a lot of content on my PS3, it gives me options. I have videos, audio, and tons of demo's and games. It works very well, and I couldn't see my self getting gimped with a 20GB unless I planned to upgrade the HDD.

 

[DuckRacer]

Broken to who? Because a bunch of 13 year olds on PLaystation.com can't figure it out? Its all in the quality of your network and your knowledge of networking. If you've got a cheap D-Link router, then yes, it will suck. If you've got a garbage 1st gen linksys without firmware updates, with zero manual config, then yes, it will suck.

I don't think you have to be a rocket scientist to get a good signal.

And for some, the card readers are awesome. I do a ton of digital photography, and have 2Gb cards in spades, and they are fast and effective. THey also make quick work of showing off photo's on the PS3.

I can see that. I was looking for an SD card reader for my PS3 today (since it can't recognize my Canon camera for some odd reason), and I took like 191 photos of cars at Barrett Jackson. After seeing the photograph slideshow option (where it shows your photos in Polaroid-like photographs), I was like .

As for the "space youd on't need" that's all your opinion, and nothing more. Personally, I like having a lot of content on my PS3, it gives me options. I have videos, audio, and tons of demo's and games. It works very well, and I couldn't see my self getting gimped with a 20GB unless I planned to upgrade the HDD.

I know it's just opinion. I wasn't intending to make my opinion be fact. At this point, 20GB is more than enough for me. However, if Sony fixes the 480p/1080i TV problem and add music playlists, I'm buying a 100GB HDD and stick all my crap in there. 60GB IMO would be too small for me.

 

[LaBounti]

I love my card readers on my pc and ps3. I keep an SD card in my PS3 all the time. I wish my 360 had a built in card reader. then i can get my mp's3 on it easy.

SD cards: 2GB(digital cam) and 256MB
MS Pro Duo 1GB(PSP) and 256MB

As far as disc space I just downloaded all of George Carlins stand up performances to my PS3 off of google videos. Google Videos is like the best source for downloading non pornagraphics videos. And then copy a few to my MS Pro if i want to watch em at work all without the need for PC. I cant see mp4 videos on my PC. 34GB left thats 26 used.

The chrome really is nice .

 

[Eric.]

Ok, there have only been two times where I have almost chocked on something while I was eating in front of my computer:

1:The first GT:HD screenshots

2: This

Even though its not for sale, it show you what you can really do with the PS3

I don't understand how that is "modding". Woohoo, you put a 750GB HDD in an external enclosure and hooked it up to the PS3. Congratulations!

I would love to put a 1TB SATA HDD into the PS3, but it will be a while before we see a 2.5-inch SATA HDD being sold to the public at a good price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822149058

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010150380+1035907918&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=380

Or not.

 

[Jedi2016]

I'm afraid I have to agree with Duck Tracy... I see no need for me to buy the 60GB. Let's break it down:

1) Wi-fi. For starters, I don't have a wi-fi router. On top of that, why would I choose wi-fi over a wired connection, when a wired connection is both faster and more stable? I'm already running cable to my 360.. it's nothing for me to run it to the PS3 as well.

2) Memory card readers. Like the wi-fi, I have no cards that would make use of this. In order to use them, I'd have to spend even more money, on a camera that I'd rarely use, or at the very least, on a card and reader for my PC.

And why would I do that, when I can already see all the pictures I want through my 360? Without shelling out a penny?

3) Larger hard drive. Only if I choose to download and maintain a large number of videos and demos. Really only demos... these days, I can find pretty much any video online and stream it through my.. yep, there it is again... my 360. Right now, on my 360's "tiny" 20GB drive, I have ten demos (and we all know they ain't small), around a half a dozen Arcade games, and thirty or forty video files, most of which are HD. And I've still got a fair bit of room left over. I don't see myself using all 20GB of the PS3's drive, especially if it has more available space at the beginning than the 360's drive did (does it?) And, as Duck Tracy also mentioned, if I do end up running short of room some day, I can just go out and buy my own hard drive, in whatever size I feel is needed. Such a purchase wouldn't come for at least a year, and it's much nicer to my wallet to spread such costs out.

So, in the end, I'd be spending a hundred bucks on what? Stuff I don't need, and stuff I won't use.

And, once again, we prove that just because something is important to one person, does NOT automatically make it important to everyone else.

The only reason I was originally considering the 60GB unit was because it was, originally, the only one of the two to feature a HDMI port. And since the PS3 was going to be a Blu-ray player as well as a game console for me, that was important. Now, the 20GB version has it, and the 60GB becomes nothing but a waste of money.

Besides, I think the 20GB looks better. The chrome lettering on the 60GB is nice, but I don't like the chrome faceplate. Brushed steel? Maybe... Chrome? Nah, I'll pass.

 

[DuckRacer]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822149058

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010150380+1035907918&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=380

Or not.

I think he's talking about 1TB laptop HDDs at a good price.

these days, I can find pretty much any video online and stream it through my.. yep, there it is again... my 360.

Do you have Media Center Edition or something? For regular XP users, you can only stream WMV files.

The chrome lettering on the 60GB is nice,

There's chrome lettering on the 20GB too.

 

[Jedi2016]

Do you have Media Center Edition or something? For regular XP users, you can only stream WMV files.

I have a transcoder built into TVersity, which is what I use to stream video. I don't use it at the moment, mainly just for want of some updated codecs that I'm too lazy to hunt down (playback stutters a bit without them, because my computer's having to work at it harder than usual, in addition to spitting it out over the LAN). Pictures and music work just fine, though. Even WMV isn't all that bad, since it's one of the more popular methods of distributing high definition video, which is about the only kind I'm interested in watching through the 360.

EDIT: Also wanted to point out that when I said "most any video", I was referring to the ones that would otherwise be downloaded through PSN and stored on the PS3. Game trailers and the like.. it's dead easy to find those in WMV HD. By storing them on my PC and streaming them to the console, it saves tons of space on the console's drive.

That's another advantage of a hardwired ethernet connection, too. Much higher transfer rates. I've had zero trouble in watching even full 1080p video through that connection.

There's chrome lettering on the 20GB too.

Are you sure? I thought it was semi-matted... or maybe I'm just looking at older, pre-release pictures.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

That's another advantage of a hardwired ethernet connection, too. Much higher transfer rates.

The higher transfer rate is really only useful for LAN, not the internet. For transfer rates over the internet you are limited by your modem and of course network traffic. Most WiFi modems support much higher transfer speeds than the max rate they are limited to through their internet provider... unless Verizon offers FiOS in your area and you are willing to spend $200 a month on their max 50Mbps service, then no, most WiFi modems will support the average transfer speeds from even cable broadband, and better than the max rate from DSL.

Of course, the majority of people connected to the internet from home are not even using broadband service, so for them it really is a non issue.

We use a cable modem and wireless router with three laptops in the house, and two desktops, and all but one are wirelessly connected to the router, and have had no loss in tranfer rates. For transfering really large files from one computer to the next, then, and only then would we ever use an ethernet connection.

 

[Dead_Poetic]

Well, Jedi, whats important here is that you remember that it is important to some people to have those things. Like me for instance. I have a professional digital SLR camera, so i might make use of the ports. Also, i run wi-fi, partly because im stupid and i dont know how to run a cable. Also, i dont have a 360 to put stuff on. So, if i were to buy a PS3 (which i will eventually) I would probably see myself investing in a 60 GB one. To each his own.

 

[DuckRacer]

Are you sure? I thought it was semi-matted... or maybe I'm just looking at older, pre-release pictures.

Dude, the lettering on my 20GB is as shiny as a bald guy's forehead.

 

[Solid Fro]

The hard disks on my PC failed last night and now my PS3 has become my main device. For the most part, I can do everything I would have done on my now dead PC. Adding a wireless keyboard makes it so much easier.

I think a couple of Mac Minis and dual boot Windows Vista are in order for myself

 

[Jedi2016]

Digital-Nitrate, I was referring specifically to transferring files from PC to console, as in the case of streaming video. Even 1080p video uses only a fraction of the available speed.

For online gaming, it probably wouldn't make much difference, I agree. Unless you've got a lousy connection and your router keeps dropping you. Which only ever happened to me once on my wired connection, and that was after a power outage, I just had to reset the router.

Well, Jedi, whats important here is that you remember that it is important to some people to have those things. Like me for instance. I have a professional digital SLR camera, so i might make use of the ports. Also, i run wi-fi, partly because im stupid and i dont know how to run a cable. Also, i dont have a 360 to put stuff on. So, if i were to buy a PS3 (which i will eventually) I would probably see myself investing in a 60 GB one. To each his own.

Then by all means, buy the 60GB. I wasn't trying to say the additions were useless... they're just useless to me. For me, the 20GB is ideal.. for you, the 60GB.

Dude, the lettering on my 20GB is as shiny as a bald guy's forehead.

Well, there you go then.. hehe. I stand corrected. Probably just older pictures (they're from before launch, I kept them because they're stupid-high-res, they probably changed it after the pics were taken.. hell, for all I know, they might be CGI.. they have that look about 'em).