PS3 General Discussion

Ahhh Thanx guys, :)đź‘Ť

To be honest, I didn't even try to insert a music CD into the PS3 because I got home so late, so I just took a quick glance at the manual and then I went to bed.

I'll try that out tonight.
 
If you rip your music using iTunes, you'll have issues.
Nah, you just have to know how to tell it to not iTune it up for you. Too many people use iTunes, thinking it is making it into an MP3, and then can't figure out why it won't play on anything else.
 
If you rip your music using iTunes, you'll have issues.
According to the thing Pako posted, the PS3 can play AAC (m4a) encoded music, just not the copy-protected music you buy on iTunes.
Nah, you just have to know how to tell it to not iTune it up for you. Too many people use iTunes, thinking it is making it into an MP3, and then can't figure out why it won't play on anything else.
There's a setting you can change that'll let you rip CDs 'n stuff as MP3s, and it'll even let you encode it from AAC to MP3 by just right-clicking and selecting "Convert to MP3".
 
There's a setting you can change that'll let you rip CDs 'n stuff as MP3s, and it'll even let you encode it from AAC to MP3 by just right-clicking and selecting "Convert to MP3".
That's basically what I meant by "tell it not to iTune it up."

Too many people call me asking why their MP3s won't work on their [Insert non-iPod MP3 player]. I've run across the same thing with people using Media Player and getting WMAs instead of MP3s.

These are usually the same people that think that all digital music players are iPods though. :indiff:
 
I remember you posting something about a relative of yours that calls any music player an iPod or something like that. That post was hilarious, I'm just not Duck Tracy to find it right now :(
 
I think the PS3 is a cool machine that needs some time to mature. I think the hardware is there, now we just need to the software to fully support it. The Playstation network/store is something to be desired. All though it is a complete product, it is in it's infant stages. Being the owner of all three next gen consoles, they all offer something unique and it would be hard to choose between all three as a result. Quite honestly, if I could just have one console out of all three, today it would be the Xbox360 just because it has a lot more titles and the XBOX Live is a mature product that functions well as a standalone product as well as how it integrates into the games. In another year, however, I can only anticipate that the PS3 will at least be up to speed with Microsoft in this respect. The Blu-Ray hardware alone is worth the price of the console if your into movies and such compared to standalone prices. Let's also not forget that if you are lacking a personal computer, you can install different flavors of Linux to use your PS3 as a personal computer to do your homework, etc..... Those are my initial thoughts.
 
So anyone care to tell me what they think of the PS3? (For people who own one of course)

I think the PS3 is a cool machine that needs some time to mature. I think the hardware is there, now we just need to the software to fully support it. The Playstation network/store is something to be desired. All though it is a complete product, it is in it's infant stages. Being the owner of all three next gen consoles, they all offer something unique and it would be hard to choose between all three as a result. Quite honestly, if I could just have one console out of all three, today it would be the Xbox360 just because it has a lot more titles and the XBOX Live is a mature product that functions well as a standalone product as well as how it integrates into the games. In another year, however, I can only anticipate that the PS3 will at least be up to speed with Microsoft in this respect. The Blu-Ray hardware alone is worth the price of the console if your into movies and such compared to standalone prices. Let's also not forget that if you are lacking a personal computer, you can install different flavors of Linux to use your PS3 as a personal computer to do your homework, etc..... Those are my initial thoughts.

Pako the taco took the words out of my mouth.

Personally, at this point, it's not worth $500. A year from now when the good games come out, I expect it will.

Blu-ray and Linux are the wildcards. If Blu-ray wins, it increases the value of the PS3 a lot more. If Linux becomes a big homebrew platform, that'll boost the value.

On the other hand, if Blu-ray doesn't win, and Linux just becomes a bullet point, that'll not help at all.

And with the "lack of a PC" factor Pako was talking about, that'd be a good point... if you were some eskimo in Alaska. If people can afford $500-600 for a game console, people probably have some sort of a computer.
 
Pako makes some excellent observations.

On the other hand, if Blu-ray doesn't win, and Linux just becomes a bullet point, that'll not help at all.
Actually *"if" Blu-ray fails it will only effect the number of films available to watch on the PS3. First and foremost, the Blu-ray drive is used for gameplay, and some of the advantages it has for gameplay are:

  • 50GB of capacity (XB360 is limited to 7GB for game content)
  • Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD lossless audio (XB360 does not support any lossless audio and is limited to 48kHz 16-bit audio)
  • Max 48-bit color depth resulting in a color range 4-8 times greater than the XB360
  • Pure Digital Path (XB360 must convert all the data to analog, as it has no digital outputs - for anyone with a display other than CRT, that analog signal must then go through yet another conversion to digital in order to be displayed)
So even "if" Blu-ray fails as a film delivery format, it will continue to offer significant advantages for PS3 users.


*That's a huge "if" considering all the problems HD DVD is having in regards to holding on to, let alone gaining hardware and software support.
 
*That's a huge "if" considering all the problems HD DVD is having in regards to holding on to, let alone gaining hardware and software support.

I would agree with that, were it not for the fact that very similar things happened last time around (Beta vs. VHS), and the one key thing has been repeated, practically sealing the deal.

But it will be nice to know that the PS3 will have a secure, technically superior, and eventually obscure disc format.
 
I would agree with that, were it not for the fact that very similar things happened last time around (Beta vs. VHS), and the one key thing has been repeated, practically sealing the deal.
The whole "porn decided the Beta vs VHS format war" has been exaggerated over the years... mostly from the porn industry who doesn't like to be ignored.

The porn industry played no roll in the success of DVD, which took off well before there were any significant sales of porn DVDs. In fact, the porn industry in 2001 was releasing far more product on VHS and VCD then DVD, and its DVD sales accounted for less than 10% of all DVD sales.

The porn industry has probably played a larger role in the increased use of the internet than anything else, but that is also why legitimate sales of porn on DVD have been on a steady decline.

Another reason porn wont likely ever have much content released on either HD DVD or Blu-ray is that almost all porn has been and continues to be shot on standard definition video... so other than capacity, there would be no advantage to release most porn on any HD format.

Lastly, headlines like that are rather amusing seeing as there is no unified porn industry organization that would force all of the thousands of porn producers and distributors to use one format over the other. So far several porn producers at the 2007 AVN Adult Entertainment Expo in Vegas said they have not made any decisions on what if any HD format they would release films on.

As actual evidence of how little influence the porn industry will have on these HD formats, just look at what titles they have already released and what titles they have announced will be released in HD on either format.

This is just spin marketing from the HD DVD Promotional Group, as they try to pull HD DVD out of its death spiral. ;)
 
Which is in of itself ignoring the fact that the BETA/VHS war was very different than the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD war is now in that Blu-Ray hardly has any disadvantages against HD-DVD, unlike BETA which was far shorter than the comparable VHS in length. On that similar token, another large problem with the analogy is that one of BETA's main problems was selling players. Blu-Ray obviously doesn't have that problem.
 
Exactly, Toronado. In fact, if folks bothered to learn the real reasons why Betamax failed (limited storage capacity, limited content, and extremely limited manufacturer support), you'll find that it's HD-DVD that looks to "lose", rather than Blu-ray.

I did a tally the other day on the real war-winner.. content. Half the movies that are out, or coming out later this year, are exclusive to Blu-ray. 25% more are dual-format and available on Blu-ray anyway. The remaining 25% (i.e. Universal) is all that HD-DVD has to its name.

If you stick with Blu-ray, you're getting roughly 75% of released films. And that's only until Universal pulls their collective heads out of their asses and goes dual-format, then Blu-ray will have virtually everything. Whereas HD-DVD will still be missing roughly half of everything that's released.

Oh, and that includes porn, by the way. Fact is, only that ONE distributor is HD-DVD exclusive. Several others are dual-format and I'm fairly certain there's at least one or two that are Blu-ray exclusive (the idea that the Blu-ray Association "doesn't want" adult content is just flat-out wrong). Not to mention that porn is almost entirely software-driven... it doesn't sell hardware. Add to that the points that Digital-Nitrate made, and you'll see that porn is going to have almost zero impact on this format war.

The only people who listen to those rumors are the ones who, for whatever reason, want Blu-ray to fail. And I cannot think of one logical reason why people would want that. And "Sony sucks" is not a logical reason.
 
The whole porn thing is ridiculous anyway. Most of it now is digital distribution, and who'd want to have a 2 foot nipple in intense detail looking at you in the first place?

At it's worst, Blu-ray will become another scar on Sony's history and will become a good, necessary game format. At it's best, it's the de facto standard.

And to be honest, I don't mind the idea of having a disc with about the same capacity as my HDD.
 
I haven't paid for a porn DVD since 2000 :) No i'm not cured I just got smarter. no plans on buying HD porn. But Silent hill 2 on blu ray yes. Silent Hill2 on HD-DVD? Not happening.
 
OK, this question is for any RFOM owners:

How is the online play? is it laggy?

I boight the game for single player, but just checking how it really is
 
Pako the taco took the words out of my mouth.

Personally, at this point, it's not worth $500. A year from now when the good games come out, I expect it will.

Blu-ray and Linux are the wildcards. If Blu-ray wins, it increases the value of the PS3 a lot more. If Linux becomes a big homebrew platform, that'll boost the value.

On the other hand, if Blu-ray doesn't win, and Linux just becomes a bullet point, that'll not help at all.

And with the "lack of a PC" factor Pako was talking about, that'd be a good point... if you were some eskimo in Alaska. If people can afford $500-600 for a game console, people probably have some sort of a computer.

You're lucky. In Blighty a PS3 is going to be around ÂŁ550 at launch which going on a handy currency converter is around $1,080 dollars!

That's alot.

What's the machine been like in terms of reliability, noise, things going wrong, etc?
 
The UK is Sony's main cash place in Europe for the European launch, because in the UK we pay more then any other places in Europe.
 
I do not believe the PS3 will be ÂŁ550 in the UK. Judging by the Irish official PS3 site it's selling there for 625 Euros (approx) which works out around ÂŁ415. I know some sites have the PS3 advertised as a bundle for ÂŁ550 but a stand alone 60GB PS3 will be between ÂŁ400 - ÂŁ450. It looks like there will be no 20GB PS3's on launch. But there's an official announcement soon so that should hopefully end all the rumours etc.
 
I would agree with that, were it not for the fact that very similar things happened last time around (Beta vs. VHS), and the one key thing has been repeated, practically sealing the deal.

But it will be nice to know that the PS3 will have a secure, technically superior, and eventually obscure disc format.

Actually, it hasn't been repeated, since the BDA has announced (since it was a false rumor) that they do support all industries (including the Adult Film Industry).

It's also important to point out that only those who were not old enough (or have not done enough research) think that the Porn industry will have any bearing on any film medium, or ever has.

People *think* it drove VHS to the top of the sales charts, but what REALLY put VHS up as the clear winner was video rentals. It was cheaper for rental stores to keep VHS movies in stock, and VHS had a larger library of films. When consumers saw tons of VHS movies in rental stores, compared to very few Beta Max films, the choice was clear. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray do not benefit from such things.

But, Jedi put it right when he said HD-DVD has more in common with Beta-Max than Blu-Ray does.

Duck - I think the PS3 is every worth every bit of $500, even now. You're getting fully backwards compatible PS2 games, some pretty good D/L content from the start, expanded media functionality, and so much potential it's ridiculous.

Considering it took the 360 nearly a year before it really had a block buster (which even then only lasted for about two months until people stopped playing it)...I think it's extremely unfair to say the PS3 "isn't worth $500 now". In one month, the PS3 will have VF5. In a month and a half, it will have Formula 1: Championship Edition and Motorstorm. In two months, it will have FEAR, Oblivion, Fatal Inertia, Stranglehold, God Father (puke), Tekken 5: DR (with updates) and many more.

I consider "now" a 2 month window. Because there are things "now" to keep people entertained.
 
Duck - I think the PS3 is every worth every bit of $500, even now. You're getting fully backwards compatible PS2 games, some pretty good D/L content from the start, expanded media functionality, and so much potential it's ridiculous.

Considering it took the 360 nearly a year before it really had a block buster (which even then only lasted for about two months until people stopped playing it)...I think it's extremely unfair to say the PS3 "isn't worth $500 now". In one month, the PS3 will have VF5. In a month and a half, it will have Formula 1: Championship Edition and Motorstorm. In two months, it will have FEAR, Oblivion, Fatal Inertia, Stranglehold, God Father (puke), Tekken 5: DR (with updates) and many more.

I consider "now" a 2 month window. Because there are things "now" to keep people entertained.

Here in the U.K the rumour still not denied by Sony is that only the 60gig PS3will be available. and that it will be priced at around ÂŁ429
That equates to almost $800 u.s.
Xbox 360 starts around half that price!

FEAR, Oblivion, Fatal inertia, God father (isnt that on PS2?) will be available on the XBOX360 and i have one of those!
As for PS2 compatability, I have 2 already!
Nothing yet says to me buy me at that huge price in the u.k!
Although if it turns out the the Force feedback restriction really doesnt affect the UK GTHD, ill be down those shops quicker than you can say Sony! Buying a PS3 with a new 46inch1080 hdtv, ill have it home and hooked up to my wheel:sly: SUCKER!!
 
Duck - I think the PS3 is every worth every bit of $500, even now.

Okay.

You're getting fully backwards compatible PS2 games,
...And PS1 games, which look worse than normal. But you have a point.

some pretty good D/L content from the start,
...That's mainly Sony published or owned stuff. If it maintained that, releasing things often, you'd have a point.

expanded media functionality,
That depends. You have Blu-ray and you can put your movies on it (as mp4s, by encoding and transferring on the computer). But you don't have the ability to have playlists, nor can you stream anything from your computer. And I really, really wish Sony would implement that.

and so much potential it's ridiculous.
Just because it has so much potential doesn't mean it's automatically worth the money. That potential will probably come to life in the future (which I'm thinking it would happen), but you also have the chance that that potential will just always be that: potential.

Don't get me wrong, if Sony fixes the scaling issue, Blu-ray wins, and the Store downloads won't always result in errors, I'm putting an 80GB HDD in that sucker, install Linux, and plop it next to the family TV, so I can ditch the DVD player, CD Player, and VHS player (once I can figure out how to transfer those damn tapes to my computer). And then it'll be the media center.

Considering it took the 360 nearly a year before it really had a block buster (which even then only lasted for about two months until people stopped playing it)
...And which title do you speak of?

...I think it's extremely unfair to say the PS3 "isn't worth $500 now". In one month, the PS3 will have VF5.
Mmkay.

In a month and a half, it will have Formula 1: Championship Edition and Motorstorm.
F1 is IMO a rental (unless they add FFB support, then it'll be a must buy). Motorstorm is very fun, but not by itself worth $500. It's not a killer app.

In two months, it will have FEAR, Oblivion, Fatal Inertia, Stranglehold, God Father (puke), Tekken 5: DR (with updates) and many more.
When March comes, F.E.A.R. will have been on the 360 for 4 months. Oblivion? A year. Fatal Inertia will be on the 360 as well. Godfather? Why is that even named?

...And Godfather is on the 360 as well. :P

Fact is, I own a 360. I bought the PS3 for the games it'll offer. Many of the games you mentioned are on (or going to be) on the 360. Now, for the people who'll only have a PS3 as their HD console, it may be worth $500 to them now. They'll be able to play games like Oblivion, Rainbow Six Vegas, and other games that everyone should play.

The PS3 will IMO be worth $500 when summer comes around (Lair, Warhawk, Motorstorm, and others will have been released), and those damn downloads get fixed.

I consider "now" a 2 month window. Because there are things "now" to keep people entertained.
Of course, if it wasn't, it'd be a failure.


...Also, on another note, remember when you said that the PS3 will get "the MTV factor"? I think that's already happening now.
 
Okay, I need help.

I have this program called Handbrake on my Mac. It rips my DVDs as .mp4s. They play perfectly fine on my computer. Now, here's the tricky part.

My PS3 or PSP can play it. I have to encode it though iPSP for it to work, and then the file extension goes from ".mp4" to ".MP4".

What am I doing wrong?
 
Not sure, but if you have the DVD's, why not just play the DVD? Surely the quality would be much better then a recompressed copy.
 
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