PURE | Flyin' Miata Super Cup | Grand Finale Results & Points Posted!

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RIPDeadMansHand
I might not have that much input on this series, but I heard the 1 solution to all the arguements already...

Grid by points.
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I would be the biggest beneficiary of that, given Monaco's my absolute worst track...

...but honestly, I would sit out if we went that route. That option's really unfair to those that have an advantage here, especially considering how difficult it is to pass.
 
i think it's best to order by points, this whole chicane-gate ******** is beyond saving, this is why we just allow people to cut the corner in JGTS, it's just simple, and doesn't take anything away from the racing. Hate the two tires on tarmac "rule". i just never got it, never will.
 
Wardez
i think it's best to order by points, this whole chicane-gate ******** is beyond saving, this is why we just allow people to cut the corner in JGTS, it's just simple, and doesn't take anything away from the racing. Hate the two tires on tarmac "rule". i just never got it, never will.
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I've actually grown to like it after having a couple of races with it and I'm thinking about implementing it after the Integras are done ;x

pls don't hurt me
 
I just finished practicing at Laguna Seca. Yes, that's how much I'm tired of dealing with that dumb Nouvelle chicane. In fact, I just plain don't like chicanes in general. :grumpy:

Well, I'm hoping that when I wake up, there's a final decision on all this.
 
I should also add that the rules I was racing with also allowed you to run wide on exit if you needed to.
 
As a side note, how I wish we could drive the older Monaco, without that chicane. That would solve all our problems.

 
Wardez
i think it's best to order by points, this whole chicane-gate ******** is beyond saving, this is why we just allow people to cut the corner in JGTS, it's just simple, and doesn't take anything away from the racing. Hate the two tires on tarmac "rule". i just never got it, never will.
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Agreed. Was going to mention why not just let everybody cut it, if everybodys doing it, nobodys getting an advantage but I thought it might of came across as a little stupid or something. :dopey:

Also think its best to order by points. Deadlines tomorrow, and im pretty sure there's a for guys who haven't checked the forums and wont until last minute, so to have to deal with a car in the middle of the chicane could get pretty weird.
 
Wow. Just woke up and there is a whole new page of nitpicking over this chikane thing :crazy:

RT put down a rule and I see no reason why we don't just adhere to it.
 
I tried out this chicane and tried to find a difference between the real time viewing and the replay. I did it quite a few times before this as well, but here's 3 attempts at it which are all as close as they can get whilst sticking to their relative rules. 1 at pace keeping 2 wheels on the tarmac (both clean), 1 keeping 2 wheels on the rumble (both clean) and 1 stationery (both clean).

Real-time footage (1 handed lol)



Replay footage



Keeping 2 wheels on the tarmac is the proper way to take this chicane and it creates more of a overtaking opportunity (very slightly, but still). The slower the speed we take that chicane the better - trying to stay close to someone using the 2 wheels on the rumble rule, means you get really close to the inside wall and the outside one. Using 2 wheels on the tarmac, you have little to no threat hitting the inside wall, and you can concentrate on not hitting the outside one.

I can't see any differences that stick out... people shouldn't risk it in their qualifying, nevermind on both laps, no? Edit: And I agree with Nige. If I know it's clean, I'll call it clean, but if I think it might be dirty then I'll check it out on the replay, which to me doesn't look like there's any differences.
 
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Joshua1994
Agreed. Was going to mention why not just let everybody cut it, if everybodys doing it, nobodys getting an advantage but I thought it might of came across as a little stupid or something. :dopey:
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No, that actually makes sense. 👍

This is my last thought before there's a final ruling. Based on the practice races yesterday, going by the 'two wheels on tarmac' rule, I can foresee a flurry of penalties handed out post-race. However, everyone was able to keep at least one tire on the left side of the curbing at all times. For me, that's perfectly fine, so I think we can ditch the rule, and proceed as normal. If anyone tries to be cute, then that replay's getting posted here for everyone to see. So, how about it, Jason? :sly:
Aderrrm
I tried out this chicane and tried to find a difference between the real time viewing and the replay. I did it quite a few times before this as well, but here's 3 attempts at it which are all as close as they can get whilst sticking to their relative rules. 1 at pace keeping 2 wheels on the tarmac (both clean), 1 keeping 2 wheels on the rumble (both clean) and 1 stationery (both clean).
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You're running exactly the same line I had been, but when carra and I checked it through the photo mode, it was actually dirty because only the left front was considered on tarmac.
 
So if I was to go into photomode and check it (which I did actually,but didn't video that it) I should encounter the same problem?

Don't know about you but if you're front left is just touching the tarmac, then you're rear left probably won't. It's like that for the last chicane at Suzuka and the Monza ones, and it needs to be taken into consideration. If you're failing to take a wide enough line with you front left and can't feel the rear left fully mounting the kerb (I can feel this pretty easily, not sure about everyone else) you are actually driving dirty in real time and on the replay/photomode when you check.
 
Aderrrm
So if I was to go into photomode and check it (which I did actually,but didn't video that it) I should encounter the same problem?
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Possibly. My case was borderline, but to the bad.
Aderrrm
Don't know about you but if you're front left is just touching the tarmac, then you're rear left probably won't. It's like that for the last chicane at Suzuka and the Monza ones, and it needs to be taken into consideration. If you're failing to take a wide enough line with you front left and can't feel the rear left fully mounting the kerb (I can feel this pretty easily, not sure about everyone else) you are actually driving dirty in real time and on the replay/photomode when you check.
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The curbing's more squarish and taller than chicanes at other tracks. As you mentioned, you really have to take the line wide. If you don't, then even though your front left may never touch the curb, the rear left will mount ever so slightly. With the angles provided when watching a race, spotting that is quite difficult, which, coupled with the rule, is how this whole thing started.
 
We managed to run two on Tarmac in ORCA. didn't like it as all my Monaco driving has been using curb there. It's doable. Mistakes happen.

Personally. I'd say if you are seen repeating the offense penalty will be handed out.

If you mistakenly only get one or barely none off tarmac. Doing so say every 5th lap and only doing so a few times during race. That is obviously a guy trying to be clean but missing the mark a few times.


The nature of hitting this with racing intent and getting right 100% during a race is well Alien territory. I won't be able to hit every lap. Especially if in a heated battle. I will try thats for sure. Obviously a cut or blatant on my part would mean I release my position to the person I am battling. Then hope to avoid next lap. LoL

Anyway. It's doable. Who's watching the replays? LoL

For the sake of stewards and coordinators. Id run normal two tires in curb rule and let it go. Doesn't hurt the racing any. Saves a ton of headache.

Think of it in a way that is easiest and best for the group.
 
Copy/Pasted from the gate19 forum:

This, imo, is perfect and accurately reflects real life rules:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6949098#post6949098
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6951665#post6951665

It pretty much goes with what Tim said, and with what Jason is trying to enforce for Monaco, with the exception that you're allowed to go wide (which they do in real life Nascar and V8 Supercars at least).

If it was up to me, this would be the standard. Unfortunately, it's too late to implement in the Integras for the current season, but this is 100% what I'm doing for everything I host afterwards (obviously with exceptions for places with giant paved runoff areas like Fuji so people don't think they can completely blow the corner).
 
MÜLE_9242;6991442
Copy/Pasted from the gate19 forum:

This, imo, is perfect and accurately reflects real life rules:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6949098#post6949098
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6951665#post6951665

It pretty much goes with what Tim said, and with what Jason is trying to enforce for Monaco, with the exception that you're allowed to go wide (which they do in real life Nascar and V8 Supercars at least).

If it was up to me, this would be the standard. Unfortunately, it's too late to implement in the Integras for the current season, but this is 100% what I'm doing for everything I host afterwards (obviously with exceptions for places with giant paved runoff areas like Fuji so people don't think they can completely blow the corner).
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Yep, right now I think that's what we are doing.
I'm just think we should be able to touch it with the outside tires, just can't hop over it.
 
carracerptp
Yep, right now I think that's what we are doing.
I'm just think we should be able to touch it with the outside tires, just can't hop over it.
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You can. You can even mount the kerb with your outside tyres, as long as they are touching (or vertically in line with) the tarmac.
 
outlaw4rc
Well, I'm hoping that when I wake up, there's a final decision on all this.
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There was already a final decision two days ago. :lol:

MÜLE_9242;6991442
Copy/Pasted from the gate19 forum:

This, imo, is perfect and accurately reflects real life rules:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6949098#post6949098
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6951665#post6951665

It pretty much goes with what Tim said, and with what Jason is trying to enforce for Monaco, with the exception that you're allowed to go wide (which they do in real life Nascar and V8 Supercars at least).

If it was up to me, this would be the standard. Unfortunately, it's too late to implement in the Integras for the current season, but this is 100% what I'm doing for everything I host afterwards (obviously with exceptions for places with giant paved runoff areas like Fuji so people don't think they can completely blow the corner).
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👍👍
 
R1600Turbo
There was already a final decision two days ago. :lol:



👍👍
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Using that I ran my Q, got a 41.5 on a clean lap (I checked and had a safe distance, too safe, actually. My T 1 and T2 were okay, but I was way to cautious in T3. Could have hit a 41.2 easily), lap 2 was a 41.6 dirty.
In a quick practice session, when I was watching people set laps, the majority of laps were dirty. It seems consistently lap one has the best camera angle, but lap two, which has an angle showing the rear of the car is almost useless.
 
Nobody ever answered me before, but can you press the triangle button and zoom in while watching, like you can in replays?
 
R1600Turbo
Pretty sure you can in replays, but not sure about watching live action.
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Interesting. I don't think so. But till I try it. No would I bet on it. LoL



So to be clear:

Two tires on the black stuff at all times?
 
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