PURE | Flyin' Miata Super Cup | Grand Finale Results & Points Posted!

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I didn't even realize that Diabilical quit until after the race. Gravy quit because he was upset that he was damaged under caution and I wouldn't give him his spot back.

I was only really commenting on d1 since I didn't know what had happened in d2. I guess I just feel like dnfs should be penalized.
 
I think Gravy quit because he was frustrated with the 'slow down, speed up' during the safety car periods due to everyone hitting start to type in the chat. I believe it was 'Deth' that was asking to get his position back after having to pit because someone hit him under caution, giving him damage.

I also got hit when we set up for the first caution, which gave me minor damage to my car and I figured I may as well pit to have it repaired as at 60mph I couldn't tell how badly it would affect the car. Big mistake. This brought me back out in the middle-rear of the pack. :( For some reason, I also thought there was no safety car with a few laps to go, which is why I sped through to the front as I assumed the crash had damaged all the cars ahead of me except GTP_Erick. Sorry for that. I must admit I'm not very good at seeing the Caution being called either. :indiff:
 
It was me asking for my spot back because at the time i was in 6th on good tires with guys in front of me on older tires, I was in a position to make a move. It didn't seem fair that his actions would screw me like that. But then I realized when i pit, I got fresh tread and the back of the pack guys were on older tires too so I knew it wouldn't be hard for me to gain my spot back. I wasn't mad at RT for sending me to the back I was mad at getting hit. That is all

**Maybe instead of everyone trying to maintain speed, which isn't hard, we all just press start on caution laps an let the game do it??
 
I understand that, but it will be controlled. Just a thought.

Room up for any late nighters who wanna run some tests at Tokyo.
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I'm going to make a nice big post tomorrow addressing a few issues and noting some rule changes. So keep an eye out for that.

Edit: :lol:
 
I understand that, but it will be controlled. Just a thought.

Room up for any late nighters who wanna run some tests at Tokyo.
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Too tired, but I did run a few laps in my lounge.

1:49.700 is what I have atm although I'm still figuring out the gearing. This time, I'm going more aggressive with it.
 
I forgot how much I like this track. I can already see safety car galore though. Especially on the blind corners!
 
I have never laughed at anything more than you mis-quoting that you remembered something you yourself said xD

At first I was confused, as to why he would quote himself, but then I realized it was the wrong post and laughed. Good one, Brosif!


Btw Eddie, do you want the RX-7 replay from today yesterday? I can put it on Mediafire right now if you want. It was a great race to watch; definite YouTube qualify.
**Maybe instead of everyone trying to maintain speed, which isn't hard, we all just press start on caution laps an let the game do it??

That's a thought, but at 40mph it'll go a bit slow.

The game automatically drives into the pits when you're in the pause menu online. Wouldn't work.
 
Well, here's the big one at Suzuka... from two angles.





I was helping Owens on getting around Gray, but couldn't clear him in time for T1, so I slowed down some more as to not drift up and hit him. In that hornet's nest, exercising patience probably wasn't the right choice.

Below's what ended our race.



This, I thought was a larger incident. Unknown to me, Aliens already had damage (from crashing into someone during the first caution) while Owens' tires were shredded. CSL was breathing down my neck, and even if Owens was my teammate, I needed to get around him. I nailed 130R for probably the only time under draft conditions, so I had a run. Unfortunately, Aliens crashed right when I tried the pass.
 
wow, that first one is probably the biggest crack-up ive seen in 2 full seasons of miata racing. :embarrassed:

Word about the caution periods. People just need to give each other space. You don't need to follow 2 inches from the car in front of you. It looked pretty precarious in front of me when I was watching 3 cars roll around on the caution glued to the car in front. It's ok to make a nice safety gap in case they slow abruptly; they aren't going anywhere until the restart.
 
I want to apologize to everyone for the accordion in the esses on the 3rd caution. I paused the game because I spilled a glass of water in my lap and freaked out. I know it caused some issues for a few and had I known it was going to cause a problem I never would have pressed pause. Sorry, again. And yes, I did have to drive the second half of the race with a soaked crotch. :lol:

I think dnfs should not be eligible for dropping. There are cautions now enabling you to regain the space you might lose on lap one at some point during the race. There's no reason to dnf anymore.[/QUOTE I received damage turn one by jay then waited until lap 5 to pit came out 1.13 back.I made my way back to 10th to see caution.I pit came out 12th.I had a good start and was in a good battle.I then went for the pass on csl when he lost it and drove me in the sand with a hard left .I will thank you at a later date.Caution came out 13th raced my way back up to 7th.Now the caution is out I have fresh tires and I have shot at podium maybe .Then someone jacks brakes to like a complete stop and I crash into deth game over.Yes I was very pissed off.You have to maintain 60 not stop go.It was happening every caution stop do stop go.I should have been allowed to go back to my position Seth and I not our fault.
 
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SohnVonStig
I was only really commenting on d1 since I didn't know what had happened in d2. I guess I just feel like dnfs should be penalized.

Just pointing out that I said this.
 
You have to maintain 60 not stop go.It was happening every caution stop do stop go.I should have been allowed to go back to my position Seth and I not our fault.

Maybe, maybe not. Everyone needs to know what's going on around them 100% of the time while under the safety car periods. I had also asked before that I believe for people to spread out. I don't mind if you bunch back up when coming to the restart, but while circling the track I would give at least a couple car lengths between you and the car in front of you.

Two reasons for not getting your spot back were the above, as well as the fact that in a real race that incident would have went the same way. I could have thrown the green flag that lap but I was nice and added another lap so you guys could get repaired.

Rage quitting it getting to the point that if someone is going to do it more than a couple times in my series, they will no longer race here. It's just not something I want to deal with.

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With that said, a couple rule changes regarding the safety car periods:

- Caution flags will no longer be thrown with less than 3 laps to go in the race. If any incidents happen within that time period, there will be no caution no matter what. Races will end under green flag conditions.

- If you need to talk to me for any reason during the race, please find a safe place to pull over and stop your car. Once done messaging, you will be allowed to catch up to the field and re-take your position. Please be mindful of cars weaving to warm their tires.

- Several people asked during the race, so I will announce here so everyone knows - when under a safety car period, pit road is always open. If you need to pit, do it then, even if we haven't reached lap 5 yet.
 
- Several people asked during the race, so I will announce here so everyone knows - when under a safety car period, pit road is always open. If you need to pit, do it then, even if we haven't reached lap 5 yet.
Will a safety car period always have enough time for us to jump in the pits?
 
Will a safety car period always have enough time for us to jump in the pits?

Not always.

Edit: I will always say when the restart is coming, so if you don't see that message then we'll be doing at least another lap.
 
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You have to maintain 60 not stop go.It was happening every caution stop do stop go.

That crap was annoying as hell. I had someone in front of me on one caution slowing down to 40mph trying to warm tires.

I had also asked before that I believe for people to spread out.

This becomes very difficult to do when the person in front of you isn't maintaining a constant speed. Every time I'd back of, they'd speed up then I'd speed up and they'd be doing 40mph again. I was so tempted to just pass his ass and be done with it but I knew that wouldn't fly so I just stayed patient.
 
If warming of tires is going to become an issue, we may do away with it. I'm going to wait a race or two to be sure.
 
Word about the caution periods. People just need to give each other space. You don't need to follow 2 inches from the car in front of you. It looked pretty precarious in front of me when I was watching 3 cars roll around on the caution glued to the car in front. It's ok to make a nice safety gap in case they slow abruptly; they aren't going anywhere until the restart.

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I can't emphasize this enough. I watched the D2 replay and I was amazed at the number of people who thought that a safety car period meant you had to inspect the rear wing setting of the car in front of you.

And what's with all the swerving and acceleration runs? It's IMPOSSIBLE to keep a significant (useful) amount of temperature in the tires when lapping at such slow speeds.

This is supposed to be a series that emphasizes realism. Racing in the real world requires you to take precautions to ensure your own safety. Something that most people forget when sim racing because crashing your car into another person doesn't require you to deal with the REAL wrath of an angry competitor nor pay a repair bill. Let alone worry about killing/maiming yourself or another.

Remember:
  • PATIENCE
  • INTELLIGENCE
  • PATIENCE
  • COURTESY
  • PATIENCE

Also, it is clearly evident to me after watching the full D2 replay that some people in particular need to learn to CONTROL THEIR RAGE, ANGER, STUPIDITY, BACKLASH, ETC. You know who you are. We're better than this.

Last but not least, when you're the 3rd, 4th, 5th car in line and have a run on the car in front of you, use your head! Does it make sense to attempt a pass on the car in front of you while they are completing a pass on the car they were trailing? Hmm, three wide into a corner that is hardy wide enough for two cars, yup let's stick it in there!


Overall, this was the first race of the season. The first half of the race was clean but the second half was beyond ugly. Hopefully everyone has cleaned off all the rust.





If warming of tires is going to become an issue, we may do away with it. I'm going to wait a race or two to be sure.

For the reason I stated above, you need to get rid of it.
 
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Well put 👍

BTW since I have this glorious holiday off I was thinking about getting the car ready for tokyo soon. Just going to get something to munch on first.
 
Well put 👍

BTW since I have this glorious holiday off I was thinking about getting the car ready for tokyo soon. Just going to get something to munch on first.

Me too, I am going to play some Top Spin 4 for an hour or so but then I will be ready to burn some (front) tires.
 
BrosifDuder
Me too, I am going to play some Top Spin 4 for an hour or so but then I will be ready to burn some (front) tires.

Luckily from my testing last night Tokyo is ridiculously nice to tires.
 
I didn't even realize that Diabilical quit until after the race. Gravy quit because he was upset that he was damaged under caution and I wouldn't give him his spot back.

Just before the last caution, I think I got on the throttle too quick coming out of Degner 2, got sideways, and drove straight into the wall :ouch: I'll admit I was extremely frustrated by that point, but the main reason I quit out is I didn't want you to call out a caution on my behalf. Just as i was quitting out, I saw you call out caution, I yelled out no don't do it, not knowing there was a bigger wreck up ahead. In hindsight I should've known you wouldn't call a caution just for one damaged car.

Last night was quite disappointing for me. I had a great practice session yesterday morning. I wasn't running real fast, but I was running probably more consistent than I ever have been, cutting a little more time off each lap and coming so close to breaking into the 13's. In the race, I struggled with consistency right from the start. Despite a few minor slip-ups, I was just happy that I stayed out of trouble the first half of the race. Once the cautions started to come out and the pack tightened back up, I started to run into trouble. I also greatly underestimated the difficulty in driving a car with damage on the front end. I also underestimated the impact the draft would have on my ability to take 130R :crazy:

The cautions were interesting. I remember thinking around lap 12 or 13, wow everyone is staying out of trouble, then the first one finally came. I was honestly excited, because it gave me an opportunity to pit and catch back up. However, I will say I didn't agree with the decision to hold up and wait for everyone to catch back up, despite the fact that I was one of the beneficiaries of the decision. The caution should be long enough for the damaged cars to pit, if I catch up that's great, but if I was that far back where I still couldn't catch up, too bad for me. The change in speeds during cautions was ridiculous. I remember one lap, I was keeping a safe distance, going into Casio. When I got to the straight, everyone was so far ahead for a second I thought did I miss the restart? The last thing I'll say about cautions is that on restart, especially later in the race, some people get a bit more aggressive, which can suck when others are trying to be a little conservative too avoid the pack in front of them.

Next week should be interesting, no sand traps, no grass, no run off areas, just walls. :scared:
 
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