PURE | GATE - Suzuka

[Joshua1994]

Woah, source? This so better be true..

 

[mcfizzle]

http://playfront.de/gt-academy-2012-promo-spot-2/

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=252588

 

[Biffy]

http://playfront.de/gt-academy-2012-promo-spot-2/

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=252588

About time.

 

[Müle]

A screen shot of Twin Ring Motegi has been leaked for GT Academy.

Any shot of working it in if DLC arrives in a timely manner?

you sure that isn't iRacing? they just came out with it recently.

 

[mcfizzle]

Wes posted an iRacing pic in another thread and the two tracks look different. The inside retaining wall was completely different.

 

[Biffy]

you sure that isn't iRacing? they just came out with it recently.

I'm very sure. The picture looks different to the iRacing version, and it just has that GT5 look.

 

[mcfizzle]

iRacing

iRacing:

GT5 leaked shot

 

[Müle]

well, alright then. cool. it better be DLC for everyone, and just a prize, though.

 

[DA6righthand]

I so hope we get Twin Ring Motegi. That would be awesome but until I see an official release from PD or here on GTP, I won't get my hopes up.

 

[GV27]

I'd love to run Madrid as the pre-season race, but it's too much of an oddball.

 

[CSLACR]

I voted for it, and my votes are worth triple everyone else's.

That was in the agreement, right?

I think the problem here with Sarthe is power.
I'd be right there in the "go Sarthe!" boat with you if we were in 500's.

Not too fond of Cape Ring Full, but it should be interesting, at least.

Cape Ring Full? Oh well, gotta bite the bullet sometime I suppose but man I hate Cape Ring in all its incarnations.

For pre-season, how about GVS? - good technical track and a good home straight to promote overtaking without giving too much away to cars with high top speed.

I think we'll like Cape Ring for racing awesomely.

I also think GVS, especially not being in the regular season makes a great pre-season track.👍

However, be prepared for a lot of FTO's if it gets in. It's clearly a fast car. I think those number posted a few pages back may be a little conservative. I found the FTO to be nearly the fastest in the accel. tests and mine laps better than my Lexus. The only thing that I'm not sure of is how good or bad it is on tires.

What specs are you using for the FTO?
The only thing I can say here is it's certainly not quicker around GP/F than the Lexus at the 335HP/1080KG specs I tried, nor can it hope to keep up with the Lexus in an acceleration run, minus it's whopping .2 G advantage off the line it had in my test.

I plan to test with the 2 later tonight and see what I can find too.

 

[Z Crazy]

What specs are you using for the FTO?
The only thing I can say here is it's certainly not quicker around GP/F than the Lexus at the 335HP/1080KG specs I tried, nor can it hope to keep up with the Lexus in an acceleration run, minus it's whopping .2 G advantage off the line it had in my test.

I plan to test with the 2 later tonight and see what I can find too.

Must be the different styles in setup, because my FTO beats the Lexus in all accel. tests and on the track as well (generally, Nurb GP\D the Lexus was in deed quicker). Didn't try Nurb GP\F but at Tskuba it was the fastest (not considering the GTR and R8). But I will correct a statement I made... the numbers you have for the FTO match my accel. tests, its the Lexus that is fairly different. Once again I put that down to setup.

FTO spec 342 and 1120kg

 

[OK8]

I'm all for sarthe and even GVS and cape ring isn't bad either but the jump is just so no-no in terms of realism and/or trying to keep any sort of immersion going.

 

[Wardez]

We're not going for total realism, authenticity, yes. So we have our creative licenses to take. We went into the decision with CRF fully aware of the jump, just a part of the experience we wanted to throw in the mix.

And the pre-season race location has been decided, we're going to GVS.

 

[CSLACR]

Must be the different styles in setup, because my FTO beats the Lexus in all accel. tests and on the track as well (generally, Nurb GP\D the Lexus was in deed quicker). Didn't try Nurb GP\F but at Tskuba it was the fastest (not considering the GTR and R8). But I will correct a statement I made... the numbers you have for the FTO match my accel. tests, its the Lexus that is fairly different. Once again I put that down to setup.

FTO spec 342 and 1120kg

Yeah, the FTO has the AWD, so with basic setups, I expect the FTO would have an advantage. I tested them both with fully race-ready gearing that I would enter a race with, and the FTO gains less because it has 4 wheels spinning off the line, meaning grip doesn't need maximized because it has plenty, and also it has a flatline powerband which quicker gearing doesn't benefit at all.
I imagine the FTO could match those times with just about any gearing setup.

I'm all for sarthe and even GVS and cape ring isn't bad either but the jump is just so no-no in terms of realism and/or trying to keep any sort of immersion going.

It's not uncommon to see SuperGT cars in the air...

 

[Müle]

we were all invited here for a reason. I think we can handle low horsepower, high downforce cars over a little jump.

 

[Z Crazy]

we were all invited here for a reason. I think we can handle low horsepower, high downforce cars over a little jump.

I think for some its more that they dislike the track and thus... the jump is a good reason to object.

I love the track I'm not particularly fast there, but its a great technical track that will eat up seconds if your not on line 100% of the time.

Yeah, the FTO has the AWD, so with basic setups, I expect the FTO would have an advantage. I tested them both with fully race-ready gearing that I would enter a race with, and the FTO gains less because it has 4 wheels spinning off the line, meaning grip doesn't need maximized because it has plenty, and also it has a flatline powerband which quicker gearing doesn't benefit at all.
I imagine the FTO could match those times with just about any gearing setup.

I ran all the cars in the same general gearing spec and left them setup as I would race them as well. However, when testing, I went back to look at why one car (08 Cusco) wasn't very quick off the line I noticed the Diff settings were a little extreme to aid in driving the car on track. When I went with a more conventional setup it was a fair bit better in all acceleration tests. So I assume that the Lexus' diff settings (where I saw differences) is where my accel. tests and your tests differ.

 

[IforceV8]

More FTO stuff

325/1060--- 146 162
345/1120--- 147 164
325/1080--- 146 161

 

[CSLACR]

I have a public lobby open, named GATE, running GVS.
Going to do some FTO/Lexus/M3GTR testing in about 20-30 minutes when I get back.

I have the room settings in tact, so searching by skid off, etc could help if I'm not on your friends list, in which case an FR to GTP_CSL is welcomed.👍

 

[DA6righthand]

I have a public lobby open, named GATE, running GVS.
Going to do some FTO/Lexus/M3GTR testing in about 20-30 minutes when I get back.

I have the room settings in tact, so searching by skid off, etc could help if I'm not on your friends list, in which case an FR to GTP_CSL is welcomed.👍

I may join. I've been in my lounge quite a bit today testing the M3, IS350, and Garaiya. The BMW will fit in nicely although it seems to carry more speed than the other two.

Unfortunately, I do not have an FTO. Have we abandoned using the R8?

 

[CSLACR]

With all the driving we did last night, I'd expected more comments.
Maybe we all crashed?

I may join. I've been in my lounge quite a bit today testing the M3, IS350, and Garaiya. The BMW will fit in nicely although it seems to carry more speed than the other two.

Unfortunately, I do not have an FTO. Have we abandoned using the R8?

I believe we pretty much have abandoned the R8, yes.


So from what I could tell last night, and I hate to say this given what others have said about the FTO, but I really think the FTO needs 335/1080 at the least, in my testing at 335/1050 last night it was still generally a bit slower than my Lexus.

Lexus at 364/1200 is too much weight, might try it a bit more yet.

Garaiya might have been the quickest car at Tsukuba, I was quite surprised. Perhaps I did my testing on them at the old specs before, the 03 did well at all tracks, compared to the Lexus and Celica.

So the Celica, Lexus, and 03 Garaiya were all very close everywhere, but the FTO was at the least, a solid .2 down everywhere. A full second slower than the Lexus at GVS.

 

[Vagabond]

So from what I could tell last night, and I hate to say this given what others have said about the FTO, but I really think the FTO needs 335/1080 at the least, in my testing at 335/1050 last night it was still generally a bit slower than my Lexus.

👍 I've been maintaining that view since I first tested it but some folk seem to have an idea that its a secret rocket... straight line tests show it to be quite strong but that doesn't carry over to the track.

 

[Z Crazy]

^ I'm one of them. I think this car is reasonable at 335/1120kg but would rather see something with less hp.

I still haven't checked out the tire wear characteristics, anyone know how it is on tires?If its anything like the 08 Subie I could care less about the stats on it.

 

[CSLACR]

👍 I've been maintaining that view since I first tested it but some folk seem to have an idea that its a secret rocket... straight line tests show it to be quite strong but that doesn't carry over to the track.

Yeah, I love the car, but it can't corner well at all. I'm actually not sure we should add it to the roster anymore tbh.

Thing is, we don't need more cars, we just want them. I'm thinking the FTO might need too high of a straight line advantage, but there is still less weight. I'll probably try it at 980 or 1000KG at 315/325HP and see if that can't fix it up nicely.

^ I'm one of them. I think this car is reasonable at 335/1120kg but would rather see something with less hp.

I still haven't checked out the tire wear characteristics, anyone know how it is on tires?If its anything like the 08 Subie I could care less about the stats on it.

It's as good as the 08, both suffer a minimal tire wear disadvantage, but with a good tune and a rear bias they're both completely manageable.

The only M3 I have is stage 3 engine, but I might give that and the Eneos/Woodone some laps tonight.

 

[Wardez]

I can send you another M3 GTR if you want Dom, let me know.

 

[CSLACR]

That would be superb, thanks.👍

 

[jtv90069]

I don't think the M3 GTR Race Car can be traded. However it is a level 16 car and a level 16 ticket can be won in the latest A-Spec seasonal.

 

[Ealirendur]

I put one on share last night on my GTP account and PSN messaged Dom to that effect all secret-squirrel-like - stock 0 km, no oil change, since I wasn't sure if it was needed, and didn't want to mess up the car if I didn't have to - but I've got four of the thing, one with engine 3, so it doesn't matter if I do so to one.

I wasn't clear because it didn't seem to be explicitly in the listed or WSGTC 3 specs, but I suppose all cars are required to be oil changed (I would naturally suppose they would need not to be dirty, but that's different to never having had it)?

 

[CSLACR]

I put one on share last night on my GTP account and PSN messaged Dom to that effect all secret-squirrel-like - stock 0 km, no oil change, since I wasn't sure if it was needed, and didn't want to mess up the car if I didn't have to - but I've got four of the thing, one with engine 3, so it doesn't matter if I do so to one.

I wasn't clear because it didn't seem to be explicitly in the listed or WSGTC 3 specs, but I suppose all cars are required to be oil changed (I would naturally suppose they would need not to be dirty, but that's different to never having had it)?

No, it's the same as never having had it, till 3000 miles. But your oil light won't come on before that anyway.
You could run a car in 20,000 miles, change the oil, drive it 200 miles, and have much less power than stock, without an oil light on.
But it won't matter, and we shouldn't worry ourselves about such trifle things, as the cars are all (WSGTC 3) cheat-proof between HP, WT, PP, and modification giveaways, such as Turbo's, or RPM/Tach changes.
So it's not important.

 

[Ealirendur]

No, it's the same as never having had it, till 3000 miles. But your oil light won't come on before that anyway.
You could run a car in 20,000 miles, change the oil, drive it 200 miles, and have much less power than stock, without an oil light on.
But it won't matter, and we shouldn't worry ourselves about such trifle things, as the cars are all (WSGTC 3) cheat-proof between HP, WT, PP, and modification giveaways, such as Turbo's, or RPM/Tach changes.
So it's not important.

I knew framing the question that way would give me the knowledge I sought 💡.

Thanks, Dom! 👍