PURE | GATE - Suzuka

[CSLACR]

CSL, Lots of interesting data. Not sure how you measure all that.

I have the 60,100,etc times already, just deducting the time it took to hit 60 from the time it took to reach 100 gives you 60-100, etc.

I've been thinking a bit how power, ballast affects the cars. Here is my take.

Ballast mostly affects acceleration. Not sure it affects top speed that much, but it will take longer time to get there. Different from real life, I don't think ballast affects handling or tire wear at all. If so, at least very little. In some cases, ballast can perhaps even improve handling using to improve the ballance of the car.

Power affects acceleration and top speed (no brainer).

This is how above can be used to make cars fit into the GT300 boundaries.

If a car lacks top speed adding ballast and power will improve top speed but not low speed acceleration. Good example is the BMW M3 which in my view lack top speed. Also I think than many of the old JGTC GT500 will fit in by adding power and ballast.

In the opposite way, the FTO has a slippery shape and will fit in better when using a fairly low power/weight spec.

Just my 2 cents, but I think as people are trying new cars, using above approach to make them fit in works pretty well

Ballast only affects acceleration. Once the car is moving, and the acceleration decreas with the speed rising, ballast is no longer "in play" so to speak.

To get the weight moving is where the ballast does it job. It will not effect top speed.

Right, if it lacks top speed but has quick acceleration, more weight and power is the way to go. (Lexus?)

Also agreed on the FTO, it's clearly got the top speed, but doesn't have the acceleration, I plan to test 1040-1060KG's at 325HP for the FTO tonight, as surely 315HP will be too wimpy.
Since it's being faced against the slowest GT300 car, it should preferably be a bit faster, to be towards the middle of the pack.


Idea:idea:
Having driven the Lexus 8 races in WSGTC 3, I have some hours in behind the wheel, and as I said once or twice before, I chose the Lexus because it was an all 'rounder and would carry ballast better than any other car in the field. (front heavy 53/47 stock)
So, the Lexus is the best or close to it cornering car, and the quickest, with the lowest top speed, does anyone object to a slightly more powerful, 1200KG Lexus?

I know the specs sound off, for example, a 1200KG, 366HP Lexus, but numbers often don't reflect....

 

[Sail IC]

Idea:idea:
Having driven the Lexus 8 races in WSGTC 3, I have some hours in behind the wheel, and as I said once or twice before, I chose the Lexus because it was an all 'rounder and would carry ballast better than any other car in the field. (front heavy 53/47 stock)
So, the Lexus is the best or close to it cornering car, and the quickest, with the lowest top speed, does anyone object to a slightly more powerful, 1200KG Lexus?

I know the specs sound off, for example, a 1200KG, 366HP Lexus, but numbers often don't reflect....

Agree with your approach giving the Lexus next step up in HP and some more weight for the reasons you wrote. Maybe 1200 kg is too much. Maybe 366HP and whatever weight making it get the same 549PP. Should be fairly easy to test.

 

[CSLACR]

I know the Lexus can run 2:02.4 qualifying laps at Nurb F with 355HP, and 1200KG.

I know the Garaiya's can't keep up at current spec either.

 

[OwensRacing]

I hope the FTO makes it and hope I can drive it. LoL Mitsubishi FTW. what's that car powered by? 4G63?

Edit:

There are a few GT300's I'd be happy in. Never gotten the pleasure to race them in a series. Just tickled to do so with this group.

 

[Vagabond]

I also would like to put my bid in for the FTO - love that car and its rasping exhaust note. 👍

I suggest specs 335bhp 1080kg for a good all rounder - I can keep up with the IS350 on most tracks with that spec and a decent setup to dial out the understeer.

[Crosses fingers]

 

[CSLACR]

I also would like to put my bid in for the FTO - love that car and its rasping exhaust note. 👍

I suggest specs 335bhp 1080kg for a good all rounder - I can keep up with the IS350 on most tracks with that spec and a decent setup to dial out the understeer.

[Crosses fingers]

Would you mind giving the Lexus a spin at 366/1200 and see what you think?

 

[Wardez]

Here's our new final tracklist order btw:
Laguna
Daytona
Suzuka
Tsukuba
Nurb GP/F
Cape Ring Full
Monaco
Monza
Spa
Fuji GT

 

[paulmac2k9]

Great list but cape ring full looks a little strange.

 

[Wardez]

Ah, I thought it would be completely normal looking

 

[CSLACR]

Great list but cape ring full looks a little strange.

I think it looks great.

 

[DA6righthand]

I think it looks great.

x2

 

[OK8]

Is Cape Ring full the one with the jump?

 

[Wardez]

You got that right.

 

[Müle]

Replace Monaco with Sarthe, and that list would be perfect.

 

[Wardez]

I'd much rather replace Daytona with Sarthe, but Sarthe was hardly voted for anyway so this is how it falls. Monaco's just way too much fun in these small cars to give up. I've gotta dig up that video of WSGTC 1 where a few guys managed to go three wide through the race.

 

[DA6righthand]

You got that right.

That'll be interesting

 

[mcfizzle]

Track list order looks great.👍

 

[jtv90069]

I've gotta dig up that video of WSGTC 1 where a few guys managed to go three wide through the race.

Please do, that sounds crazy

 

[Wardez]

Forgot to add in which are the 250km enduros, the rest are 150km
They'll be marked with stars here:

Laguna
Daytona
Fuji GT*
Tsukuba
Nurb GP/F
Cape Ring Full
Monaco
Monza
Spa
Suzuka*

Also switched around Suzuka and Fuji.

Please do, that sounds crazy

And this, is why we are having GATE visit Monaco:



https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5048596#post5048596

There are fast people, then there are racers, and this shows why Andil's one of the best.

That's like some straight up Hakinnen-Schumacher Spa **** right there.

 

[DA6righthand]

I love those long races. Enduros are fun stuff

 

[Müle]

I'd much rather replace Daytona with Sarthe, but Sarthe was hardly voted for anyway so this is how it falls. Monaco's just way too much fun in these small cars to give up. I've gotta dig up that video of WSGTC 1 where a few guys managed to go three wide through the race.

I voted for it, and my votes are worth triple everyone else's.

That was in the agreement, right?

 

[Wardez]

Yeah, negative 3 plus 4 lawl.

But only thing left to decide is what the pre-season track should be. Right now I'm just thinking Suzuka, but I'm sure you all have more interesting ideas.

It has to be a pretty even track in terms of average speed though, so keep that in mind.

 

[GV27]

Not too fond of Cape Ring Full, but it should be interesting, at least.

 

[DragonGT83]

But only thing left to decide is what the pre-season track should be. Right now I'm just thinking Suzuka, but I'm sure you all have more interesting ideas.

It has to be a pretty even track in terms of average speed though, so keep that in mind.

Indy Road, it's a good mix of long straights and technical turns IMO. pretty easy to be consistant there. 👍 Another one I could think of would be Fuji F, nice technical last section, long straight, high speed turns etc.

 

[Wardez]

Thanks for the suggestion, but Indy really favors cars with high top speed so nah...

Fuji F also has the same problem, extremely long straight.

I'm thinking Nurb.D, Cape Ring Inside, GVS, Madrid, maybe even Suzuka East, but heh.

 

[Vagabond]

Cape Ring Full? Oh well, gotta bite the bullet sometime I suppose but man I hate Cape Ring in all its incarnations.

For pre-season, how about GVS? - good technical track and a good home straight to promote overtaking without giving too much away to cars with high top speed.

 

[IforceV8]

Thanks for the suggestion, but Indy really favors cars with high top speed so nah...

Fuji F also has the same problem, extremely long straight.

I'm thinking Nurb.D, Cape Ring Inside, GVS, Madrid, maybe even Suzuka East, but heh.

Top speed isnt an issue anymore.💡

 

[Z Crazy]

The first track list looks good (don't want too many bull rings, but I do love them).

Pre-Season Suggestions...
-Special Stage Route 5 - Great all around track but lacks on lighting
-Tokyo R246 - Concrete engine dyno but also gives a slight favor high downforce cars/setups
-Grand Valley Speedway - Good all around track, great tire dyno.

However, be prepared for a lot of FTO's if it gets in. It's clearly a fast car. I think those number posted a few pages back may be a little conservative. I found the FTO to be nearly the fastest in the accel. tests and mine laps better than my Lexus. The only thing that I'm not sure of is how good or bad it is on tires.

 

[DA6righthand]

Cape inside is a fun track. I'd rather race somewhere for a preseason race that we don't revisit later in the season.

 

[mcfizzle]

A screen shot of Twin Ring Motegi has been leaked for GT Academy.

Any shot of working it in if DLC arrives in a timely manner?