PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!
- Thread starter Denilson
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- 1,208
- San Diego
- RedReevos / GTP_RedReevos
btw, anyone want to post the D1 results for the positions beyond 2nd?
I don't think I will be able to get back on my ps3 tonight to pull that up. My apologies.
I did want to jump on here to congratulate the two posters above me, though. Congrats to Team Motul for the double victory today!👍 Great job Jamen on holding off Tony today.👍 Bummer about your qualifying mishap Tim.. but 👍 to you for winning your race today.
Edit - I see Minion has you covered Tim. Thanks for posting the results Minion 👍
- 7,284
- Inverness, Scotland
- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
Tonys already maxed on ballast so hes not going on a diet 
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Btw TnJF you have a Z3? I found a 2nd one if you want it.
. Btw TnJF you have a Z3? I found a 2nd one if you want it
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- 1,619
- The Mitten
- BrosifDuder
Does everyone recall their fastest laps from D1? I know we will have to check the replay to confirm but I am just curious. I think I had a high 8:17.
- 10,456
- United States
- WrecklessAbandon
Big congrats to Brosif for his first Pure win, feels good doesn't it? 
Big congrats to Fat Tony for taking an almost win second, with so much fat on board.👍
Big congrats to Ansem for his first podium in Pure, with a solid third in the most demanding race of the season.👍
Big congrats to Eddie for coming back from the dead, after that big off on lap 1, I'd thought you were a goner for sure, great pace coming back up. 👍
I drove like a grandma out there today, seriously. I did eventually get some funkiness on lap 9, got a lucky wall hit with no damage, and then an even weirder unlucky off into the wall that gave me right front damage, which cost me 4th.
But all in all, considering my terrible driving at night, I'm pretty pleased to have grabbed 5th.
Grats again man, great job beating Tony out to the finish.👍
Big congrats to Fat Tony for taking an almost win second, with so much fat on board.👍
Big congrats to Ansem for his first podium in Pure, with a solid third in the most demanding race of the season.👍
Big congrats to Eddie for coming back from the dead, after that big off on lap 1, I'd thought you were a goner for sure, great pace coming back up. 👍
The single best thing you can do, is slow down a bit. Just race at a pace where you know you won't crash.👍Not impressive, really. More like... sad.
I have some deep thinking to do. Things have to improve over the next two races, or I may really not hold enough will to continue racing. I've had the three worst races of my life three weeks on a row, and I'm not having fun.
I come here to race for fun, and one thing's for sure; if I'm not having fun, there's no point on doing this. You guys are stuck with me for the two remaining races, that's for sure. After that, I'll just see.
I thought I couldn't feel worse than I felt back when Monza. Life has proven me wrong once again; Spa and Nürburgring certainly added to the depression.
I drove like a grandma out there today, seriously. I did eventually get some funkiness on lap 9, got a lucky wall hit with no damage, and then an even weirder unlucky off into the wall that gave me right front damage, which cost me 4th.
But all in all, considering my terrible driving at night, I'm pretty pleased to have grabbed 5th.
Chasing Eddie, knowing he was going for 4 laps on the last stint I did some mild pushing finally, and managed an 8:15.9xx, which was pretty decent. Just didn't have the nerve to push any harder, 5th was good enough for me today.
Grats again man, great job beating Tony out to the finish.👍
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- United States
- WrecklessAbandon
Oh believe me, I know, it's much easier said then done, especially at night.
I watched Eddie catch me all through the night, and the leaders drive away most of the race. It did help me knowing that I couldn't push much without having to pit every 2 laps, which would have added 2 pit stops, along with the extra chance for crashing.
Ballast, FTW:
Tony - 120
BrosifDuder - 60
Me - 40
Welsh - 40
WiiFreak - 40
Ansem - 20
Just in case anyone is wondering for practice before Tim has time to update.
And Indy Road lengths come out to 43.75 laps for feature, and 12.5 laps for sprint.
So I'm guessing it's 44+1 and 13+1.
I love IRC.
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- 2,218
- Manchester
- toyotsupra
- Jame3sBoy
Are there any spots available right now?
I so wana race in this series it sounds a beast 👍
I so wana race in this series it sounds a beast 👍
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- 10,456
- United States
- WrecklessAbandon
Not sure if we're taking new drivers atm toyot, as there's only 2 races left in the season.
We'll keep an eye out for how you progress through WSGTC though.
- 1,619
- The Mitten
- BrosifDuder
Alright, here is my attempt at a race report of my experience at the Ring yesterday.
Lap 1 was uneventful compared to what others have reported with me simply following Dennis wake while trying to not overshoot any corners since the draft made trailing another car a horrendous experience. Coming onto the straight at the end of the lap I used the tow from Dennis Honda to slingshot past at 190+ MPH. I looked back to see if Ansem was on my derrière but was surprised to see that he was unable to keep pace. I figured he had run out of gear and was bouncing off the limiter. Across the stripe it was Brosif, Den, Tony, and Ansem.
At the end of Lap 3 I made my first pit stop, coming in with a ~2 second lead over Tony. I took 25 (or 22, cant remember) units of fuel and exited with Tony directly behind me. We eventually swapped positions on the Lap 4. My objective was to stay close to Tony so that I could take advantage of any mistake he made since I could tell that he was fighting his fat GT-R more and more the deeper he got into a tire stint. The only problem was that the draft was killing my rhythm so I decided that I was going to back off a couple seconds then slingshot past right before our next scheduled pitstops.
Well Pflanzgarten had other plans and on Lap 5, just as I told myself to back off Tony, I tried to carry too much speed through the right-hander after the jump and put my left side tires on the turf. I knew I was on my way so I whoa-ed up as much as I could and managed to get away with a lazy quarter-spin that had me nosed in against the inside Armco. I checked my map and saw Ansem down the road a bit so I backed it up to get off the racing line and waited for him to come through. When I saw the interval to P1 at the next split I told myself good job, Jamen, way to muck it all up and put my head down to see if I could eat away at the ~20 second gap to Tony.
I made my second stop at the end of Lap 6 while in P3 having whittled a few seconds off the gap to P1. I took 20 units of fuel. Dennis either forgot to pit or was out of sync because when I exited the order was Tony, Den, Ansem, then me with P3 still out of sight. Well Den must have made a mistake going into Aremberg because he was way off pace and on the outside of the turn. I went to the inside of the track to overtake him but he came back across the track so I checked up and went around the outside. I could now see Ansem in P2 and, remembering he was short on gear, knew I could slingshot past him and break the draft.
The gap to P1 had shrunk to ~7 seconds by the time I made my third and final stop at the end of Lap 9. Having taken extra fuel in my first two stops my crew chief/race strategist recommended taking 15 units of fuel, I opted for 16 units. Well, I dont know if Tonys crew decided he needed 40 units of fuel or he had damage to repair but I ended up getting out of the pits a full two seconds ahead of him. For the next lap and half I focused on driving as fast as I could while ensuring I didnt make any mistakes. Tony must have had a few moments with his porky, blue godzirra which allowed me to pull out a 10-12 second lead.
Then I looked at my fuel gauge and grew slightly (understatement) alarmed by the seemingly insufficient amount of fuel remaining in the tank. At that point, I cursed my race strategist (and myself) and decided I needed to start conserving fuel if I wanted to make it to the end. I dont know if it actually helps in GT5 but I was lifting off the throttle, rolling through corners and short shifting everywhere I had the chance. It wasnt until two-thirds of the way through Lap 12 that I realized I was going to make it and that I better step on the GO pedal if I wanted to keep my ~3 second lead and bring this victory home.
I gave a Hans Stuck fist pump as I crossed the line (10:16)
... while bellowing VICTORY a la Johnny Drama.
Lap 1 was uneventful compared to what others have reported with me simply following Dennis wake while trying to not overshoot any corners since the draft made trailing another car a horrendous experience. Coming onto the straight at the end of the lap I used the tow from Dennis Honda to slingshot past at 190+ MPH. I looked back to see if Ansem was on my derrière but was surprised to see that he was unable to keep pace. I figured he had run out of gear and was bouncing off the limiter. Across the stripe it was Brosif, Den, Tony, and Ansem.
At the end of Lap 3 I made my first pit stop, coming in with a ~2 second lead over Tony. I took 25 (or 22, cant remember) units of fuel and exited with Tony directly behind me. We eventually swapped positions on the Lap 4. My objective was to stay close to Tony so that I could take advantage of any mistake he made since I could tell that he was fighting his fat GT-R more and more the deeper he got into a tire stint. The only problem was that the draft was killing my rhythm so I decided that I was going to back off a couple seconds then slingshot past right before our next scheduled pitstops.
Well Pflanzgarten had other plans and on Lap 5, just as I told myself to back off Tony, I tried to carry too much speed through the right-hander after the jump and put my left side tires on the turf. I knew I was on my way so I whoa-ed up as much as I could and managed to get away with a lazy quarter-spin that had me nosed in against the inside Armco. I checked my map and saw Ansem down the road a bit so I backed it up to get off the racing line and waited for him to come through. When I saw the interval to P1 at the next split I told myself good job, Jamen, way to muck it all up and put my head down to see if I could eat away at the ~20 second gap to Tony.
I made my second stop at the end of Lap 6 while in P3 having whittled a few seconds off the gap to P1. I took 20 units of fuel. Dennis either forgot to pit or was out of sync because when I exited the order was Tony, Den, Ansem, then me with P3 still out of sight. Well Den must have made a mistake going into Aremberg because he was way off pace and on the outside of the turn. I went to the inside of the track to overtake him but he came back across the track so I checked up and went around the outside. I could now see Ansem in P2 and, remembering he was short on gear, knew I could slingshot past him and break the draft.
The gap to P1 had shrunk to ~7 seconds by the time I made my third and final stop at the end of Lap 9. Having taken extra fuel in my first two stops my crew chief/race strategist recommended taking 15 units of fuel, I opted for 16 units. Well, I dont know if Tonys crew decided he needed 40 units of fuel or he had damage to repair but I ended up getting out of the pits a full two seconds ahead of him. For the next lap and half I focused on driving as fast as I could while ensuring I didnt make any mistakes. Tony must have had a few moments with his porky, blue godzirra which allowed me to pull out a 10-12 second lead.
Then I looked at my fuel gauge and grew slightly (understatement) alarmed by the seemingly insufficient amount of fuel remaining in the tank. At that point, I cursed my race strategist (and myself) and decided I needed to start conserving fuel if I wanted to make it to the end. I dont know if it actually helps in GT5 but I was lifting off the throttle, rolling through corners and short shifting everywhere I had the chance. It wasnt until two-thirds of the way through Lap 12 that I realized I was going to make it and that I better step on the GO pedal if I wanted to keep my ~3 second lead and bring this victory home.
I gave a Hans Stuck fist pump as I crossed the line (10:16)
... while bellowing VICTORY a la Johnny Drama.
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- Stockholm
- chorda / GTP_chorda
Tim, how are the points handed out for the D2 race?
It seems like the points structure is 21, 18, 15, 12, 9, 6.. When it should be 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, right?
Awesome report Brosif! 👍
About the situation when you overtook me after my damage.. My car was totally messed up, and I could not keep the car in a steady line.. Just to let you know.. I was really struggeling to keep it off your racing line. You just managed to pass me without our cars touching.. Phewww! Glad you made it! 👍
It seems like the points structure is 21, 18, 15, 12, 9, 6.. When it should be 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, right?
Awesome report Brosif! 👍
About the situation when you overtook me after my damage.. My car was totally messed up, and I could not keep the car in a steady line.. Just to let you know.. I was really struggeling to keep it off your racing line. You just managed to pass me without our cars touching.. Phewww!
Glad you made it! 👍
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- 2,218
- Manchester
- toyotsupra
- Jame3sBoy
CSLACR
That's cool it would be exiting to race In this series :tup
- 4,853
- Buffalo, NY
- PURE_DrWatson
14 * 1.5 = 21
we've been recording everyone's fast lap and the total time.
Does anyone have that?
(no offence but I figured after 8 weeks this would be going smoother)
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Oh, and caveat on the dur Nurburgring enduro.
In the future when there's a big holiday break in the calendar it might be better to put the ring after that, so people can be adequately practiced up.
I feel like I'm a rarity needing only an hour or so to setup the car and be ready to run quickly without bending the car every other lap. (I qualified after turning the car and doing some laps over a 2 hour period then never touched the car again until race-day)
btw, what pace were you guys running in the dark in D1?
I found it really comfortable clicking off 8:35s.
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- 1,619
- The Mitten
- BrosifDuder
- 7,284
- Inverness, Scotland
- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
My best was only a 8:30 because I never got one clean lap in or my fastest laps were ones coming out of the pits 
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- 4,881
- Stockholm
- chorda / GTP_chorda
1. Yes, you're right! 👍
2. I did not have the time to start my replay after the race. Had to leave instantly after the race. And now, I have a lot to do for the next couple of days, so no possibility to start up the PS3 for a few days. But as soon as I get the chance, I'll help you out (If no one else have done so by that time).
Fatstest laps was just something I grabbed while I had a second to spare this morning..
3. I can't remember, but I think it was 8:25-8:30's..
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- WrecklessAbandon
I'll get the total time and splits up for you shortly.👍
I believe I was running mid 8:30's in the night, but probably lost 20-30 seconds over that period. 8:32-33 rings a bell, but of course I only had 2 laps at night that didn't involve the bulk of a pit, or some driving on quickly wearing tires.
I'd guess Tony, Brosif, and Ansem were all running high 20's at night. Pretty ballsy if you ask me.
- 7,284
- Inverness, Scotland
- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
So anyone put down Indy times for me to 
and at?
and at?
- 10,456
- United States
- WrecklessAbandon
So anyone put down Indy times for me to
I expect 28's, but maybe 29's, hard to say.
WSGTC 2 quali pole was 28.4-5 I think, I ran 28.8 iirc, these cars are slower, but that hasn't stopped me from improving my times so far, so knock on wood...
- 7,284
- Inverness, Scotland
- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
Yes its good for those who have run in Gt500s before but remember this is my first season ever using Gt500s so im learning every track as I go along 
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- 4,881
- Stockholm
- chorda / GTP_chorda
I did not get a shot of the total times since I was like 2:50 after Brosif.. So no time to get my camera and shot the screen.. But I did actually take a shot at the live timing screen like 1 second before the replay started over.. So the total times are pretty accurate..
BTW: Did D2 only race for 10 laps?
BrosifDuder: TOTAL: 1:44:01.985 | GAP: -:--.---| BEST: 8:17.822
tony1311: TOTAL: 1:44.05.158 | GAP: + 3.173 | BEST: 8:17.778
Ansem29: TOTAL: 1:44:14.036 | GAP: + 12.051 | BEST: 8:19.521
Wardez: TOTAL: 1:44:55.050 | GAP: + 53.065 | BEST: 8:15.795
GTP_CSL: TOTAL: 1:44:55.770 | GAP: + 53.785 | BEST: 8:15.983
PureGTM: TOTAL: 1:46:07.024 | GAP: + 2:05.039 | BEST: 8:23.547
chorda: TOTAL: 1:46:48.078 | GAP: + 2:44.093 | BEST: 8:15.263
RedReevos: TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: 8:27.406
GV27- : TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: 8:44.091
Minion07: TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: 8:28.998
GTP_Litchi: TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: -:--.---
MULE: DNS
BTW: Did D2 only race for 10 laps?
BrosifDuder: TOTAL: 1:44:01.985 | GAP: -:--.---| BEST: 8:17.822
tony1311: TOTAL: 1:44.05.158 | GAP: + 3.173 | BEST: 8:17.778
Ansem29: TOTAL: 1:44:14.036 | GAP: + 12.051 | BEST: 8:19.521
Wardez: TOTAL: 1:44:55.050 | GAP: + 53.065 | BEST: 8:15.795
GTP_CSL: TOTAL: 1:44:55.770 | GAP: + 53.785 | BEST: 8:15.983
PureGTM: TOTAL: 1:46:07.024 | GAP: + 2:05.039 | BEST: 8:23.547
chorda: TOTAL: 1:46:48.078 | GAP: + 2:44.093 | BEST: 8:15.263
RedReevos: TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: 8:27.406
GV27- : TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: 8:44.091
Minion07: TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: 8:28.998
GTP_Litchi: TOTAL: -:--:--.--- | GAP: + -:--.--- | BEST: -:--.---
MULE: DNS
- 7,284
- Inverness, Scotland
- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
No we ran the full 12 laps Den just TnJF was the only one to finish. (I was on the last corner when the timer ran out )
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- 1,619
- The Mitten
- BrosifDuder
Yes its good for those who have run in Gt500s before but remember this is my first season ever using Gt500s so im learning every track as I go along
Me too!
- 10,456
- United States
- WrecklessAbandon
Dammit, this is why I usually don't bother, here I sit with a bunch of useless times.
However, take 1 second off those total times and they'll be pretty close to dead-on.
I paused on the very last lap/finish, with the finish line under the middle of my car, and my total time showing 1:44:54.666
Oh, and our finishing gaps are slightly different for Dennis, Eddie, and Muzz. not enough to bother with though, like .050 range.
I also noticed Dennis' fastest lap was the very last lap of the race.
Edit: Paul, we're neck and neck looking to take 5th for team points now.
Gotta edge out that team Stealth!
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- 165
- New Zealand
- PureGT_Muzz
I really enjoyed my race and am very happy with my placing.
I noticed Will's car was damaged on the warmup lap and had a very bad feeling something was going to happen early so backed it off a bit at the start line. Sure enough it went down (two accidents rolled into one) and I was able to sail through the carnage. I take no pleasure in passing damaged cars but it is what it is. Got held up a bit trying to pass a damaged GV27 but I think he probably thought I had damage too. After that I just concentrated on trying to put in safe laps. I made a couple of small mistakes early that reminded me to put my head down and concentrate more.
I figured I might be able to have some sort of battle with Eddie during the night laps as his pit strategy was off so I pushed a bit through the night and was doing ok until I made a 1/2 spin. Eddie and I did have a great 1/2 lap battle together with him pushing me to my max. Eddie was on 1 lap tyres with me on 3 lap tyres so it was a little scarey trying to keep him at bay without being an idiot about it. Thanks mate that was real good fun. Big respect man. You pushed me but backed off where it mattered. You are a gentleman driver!!!
Overall I made several small mistakes but nothing bad so it made for a real pleasurable mornings drive with all you fellas.
Biggest bummer of the race? Mule missing it. Mate I'd loved to have seen you on the greatest track in the world battling with the D1 guys. It was totally awesome. This is why I love this series. Respect to all of you!!!
I noticed Will's car was damaged on the warmup lap and had a very bad feeling something was going to happen early so backed it off a bit at the start line. Sure enough it went down (two accidents rolled into one) and I was able to sail through the carnage. I take no pleasure in passing damaged cars but it is what it is. Got held up a bit trying to pass a damaged GV27 but I think he probably thought I had damage too. After that I just concentrated on trying to put in safe laps. I made a couple of small mistakes early that reminded me to put my head down and concentrate more.
I figured I might be able to have some sort of battle with Eddie during the night laps as his pit strategy was off so I pushed a bit through the night and was doing ok until I made a 1/2 spin. Eddie and I did have a great 1/2 lap battle together with him pushing me to my max. Eddie was on 1 lap tyres with me on 3 lap tyres so it was a little scarey trying to keep him at bay without being an idiot about it. Thanks mate that was real good fun. Big respect man. You pushed me but backed off where it mattered. You are a gentleman driver!!!
Overall I made several small mistakes but nothing bad so it made for a real pleasurable mornings drive with all you fellas.
Biggest bummer of the race? Mule missing it. Mate I'd loved to have seen you on the greatest track in the world battling with the D1 guys. It was totally awesome. This is why I love this series. Respect to all of you!!!
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