PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!

[Wardez]

Hey Muzz! Welcome! This is an invitational series so as soon as you post you're in, or "registered." Just let us know if you can make every race and you're set. We're all about clean drivers which is why you were invited, speed is not a requisite. :tup:Thanks a lot for the warm introduction.

Also! I had no idea there was a GT community called Pure! Sorry! I hope you don't mind our use of the name or if people think this championship's associated with your site :x. Although we are just a series.

At any rate, cheers! See you on the track.

 

[CSLACR]

Welcome seconded, welcome Muzz.

 

[The Outlaw]

I can tell you at 1150kg, stock using limiter, the Stealth GTR can easily be on par with others, that's no problem.👍
Stealth NSX I haven't fully tested, but I can give it a whirl then, weighs 1100kg 515hp stock, not sure if I changed oil, no miles at all. I expect the stealth NSX to be easily on par with other NSX's though as well.👍

Because the Bandai and YMS Supra have less downforce, I'm guessing 1130kg might be to much, I didn't get quite par at 1090kg, but then as I'd said, the extra weight on rear really gives it handling boost, and adds rear grip.

Good to hear the aero trick worked on the Castrol Supra, I hoped it would. 👍

Finally, as I said in the other thread, sorry for the mixed lobby guys (those that found it) it was intended to be Miatas, but I initially got more interested in Pure cars, thought mixed would work, but it didn't.

Next time I'll label it clearly, I'm sure it was at least semi-annoying dodging 200hp box's around the track.


Edit: BTW Dennis, the stealths unfortunately can't be borrowed or gifted, so that's out. (they can be shared, but not borrowed)
Oh, and GTP_timeattack is nuts. 13.2 in an NSX, not sure exactly what specs, but 530hp I think, and...wow.

Well I never officially ran that lap, but I think had the track been a bit more clear I would have had a better shot of geting that or possibly that 2'12 I was yappin about. As I said, I was on track to hit a 2'13.2 with the Takata NSX @ 532hp (stage 2 turbo)/minimum weight/full aero/R1's and only 2 laps worth the fuel burned off, but ended up throwing away that lap at the last chicane as I got a bit flustered by the traffic ahead and broke too late. I think with a bit more tinkering to the tune, more practice and more fuel burned off, a 2'12 shouldn't be all that difficult to achieve in the NSX i can't imagine.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not even sure if my damn NSX has the chassis rigidity mod That in itself should be worth a couple of tenths and should make the thing easier and more consistant to drive. I'll have to do this mod and then go out and do some testing again after work.

I will say that deciding on a setup for the race will be crucial, particularly deciding on where you will likely be spending most of your time during the race (i.e. out in front or chasing after cars in dirty air). My qualy setup is very quick and loose out in free air, but once I started following other cars closely in dirty air the thing become an oversteering beast which was very hard on the rear tires and was pretty edgy to drive. Now, I'm not sure if the new update has brought some type of change as to how the following cars reacts in dirty air or what...but I will say I do like this aspect. Considering the length of these races, surely it will be much more important to have strong consistancy and ability to look after your tires (especially when in track/dirty air), rather than being worried about ultimate 1 lap pace in qualy though. Of course if you can get out in front and stay there, or at least find some breathing room throughtout the race, you could likely get a way with a bit more of an aggresive setup.

Anyways, see you guys this weekend.

 

[Denilson]

The Outlaw: 2:12??????? Jeeeez!!

The specs your car was at is a tad fast tho. It should be:

Bhp: 526
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 607
PL: 96,9%
Mods (mandatory): Turbo Stage 2
Mods (optional): Ridgity Improvement

Also: It would be great if you tryed 1 NSX, 1 GT-R, 1 SC430 (PETRONAS or DENSO), the 2 SUPRAs, the Z, BANDAI DIREZZA SC430, ENEOS SC430, and the WOODONE GT-R at Laguna Seca or Monaco.
If you do, the specs for each car is listed in the OP, post 2. 👍

Cause I'm not bothered if the NSX is a tad faster at Spa as long as the rest of the cars got the upper hand at other circuits. 👍



PureGTMuzz: Litchi_GTPlay told me about you the other day, and I'm sure you're an awesome driver.
To race here requires commitment and contribution. I'm sure you know how important that is from running your site. 👍

Regarding the cars: Do not mix up all different specs beeing discussed in the thread. The sheet you should pay attention to is the list in post 2. That's the specs all cars are supposed to run according to. The list is updated as we progress. And it looks like it will be final within a week.

We are also going to run 2 pre season races (Sunday, October 30th, and Sunday, November 6th).
Below is the 2nd room sign up list. I think it would be great if you signed up. It's a good way to get to know eachother.
And to sign up, simply follow this procedure:
When reading the post, you got a "Qoute" button down right. Press it.
You'll now see the post in "pre-post" format.
In the beginning and in the end of the post, you can see [QOUTE]-tags.
Remove them.
Add your name and car to the first available spot.
Then just post it as any other message.

 

[Denilson]

Room 2
PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Spa | 175 km | Sunday, October 30th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. GTP_Aderrrm - TBD
2. Remy_K - TBD
3. R1600Turbo - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
4. moleman - TBD
5. Dr_Watson (TnJF) - Toyota CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA
6. lapierre4 - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
7. WiiFreak - TBD
8. Litchi_GTPlay - Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z
9. GV27 - Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430
10. paulmac2k9 - TBD
11. Josh_F_1998 - Nissan CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
12. BrosifDuder - Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
13.
14.

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[The Outlaw]

The Outlaw: 2:12??????? Jeeeez!!

The specs your car was at is a tad fast tho. It should be:

Bhp: 526
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 607
PL: 96,9%
Mods (mandatory): Turbo Stage 2
Mods (optional): Ridgity Improvement

Also: It would be great if you tryed 1 NSX, 1 GT-R, 1 SC430 (PETRONAS or DENSO), the 2 SUPRAs, the Z, BANDAI DIREZZA SC430, ENEOS SC430, and the WOODONE GT-R at Laguna Seca or Monaco.
If you do, the specs for each car is listed in the OP, post 2. 👍

Cause I'm not bothered if the NSX is a tad faster at Spa as long as the rest of the cars got the upper hand at other circuits. 👍

Thanks for the heads up Dennis, I'll make sure to reduce my power level next time out. Fortunately for me, I just checked and my car didn't have the "chassis reinforcement" mod, so I feel that mod will more than make up for the 6hp power reduction I will run next time out

Also, I'm willing to do some testing over the weekend if you want me to. I only have the YH GT-R and YH Supra atm though, so I'd be willing to at least test those 2 cars against the Takata NSX. I'm not sure if I'll have the time nor the patience though to do testing comparisons on all the cars though, as to really do a thorough analysis (on lap times, tire wear, laps times as tires fall off, finding the optimal setup for race, etc.) would take a serious amount of seat time and hair pulling. Plus if I'm not on my toes (as far as driving) throughout the testing of each car, it could skew things a bit also...which I rather not be blame for

Anyway, let me know what you think.

 

[MaccGyver]

Whats up people.

I'm going for some practice in my lounge if anybody wants to run..... add me

GTF_Apollo

 

[paulmac2k9]

The_Outlaw also you need to add 30kgs to get to 1130kgs

 

[Denilson]

After some testing at Monaco:

TAKATA DOME NSX (1130 kg, 607 PP): 1:31.668

AUTECH MOTUL GT-R (1150 kg, 606 PP): 1:31.503

Comment: Both cars was tuned according to the sheet in post 2 (Notice that it's updated just a few hours ago).
So the NSX keeps up good here, but seems faster on the high speed circuits.
Solution:
1. Add more weight to the NSX.
It will even out the weight didtribution even further, and slow it down slightly in the acceleration. I'm thinking add another 20 kg (Total: 1150).
2. Reduce power for the NSX.
It will reduce it's top speed, and make it less dominant on the faster circuits. I'm thinking PL at 94,6%, PP at 604 (514 Bhp).
3. Compomize.
*Add 10 kg = Will improve handling a tad, and reduce acceleration/top speed.
*Reduce power. PL at 96,0%, PP at 605 (521 Bhp).
(605 PP is with the additional 10 kg)

I've not yet tested these proposed values, but I estimate they are good.
I would prefer option number 3 cause that's how we get it as close to the GT-R as possible over all tracks. (The "NSX is faster at "x" circuit and the GT-R/SC430 at "y" circuit" factor will be reduced)

Now, I'm going out with some friend, so I'll see you guys Sunday.
I'll might run some tests tomorrow, cause it would be great to have the updated specs for the race. Make sure to check the specs sheet out prior Sundays race. 👍

 

[Denilson]

The Outlaw: Any tests you do is something that contribute to the final product. 👍
Guess I got carried away dropping cars I'd like you to test..

But when you test the cars, make sure to test with the specs in post 2 first to get a feel for where we're at atm.
Then you can tweak what ever you feel is nessesarry and post here about your findings. 👍

 

[The Outlaw]

The thing is though, ultimate lap times aren't a good indicator of the different cars performance throughout a 175km race, as your ignoring crucial aspects such as tire wear and how the car performance drops off once the tires are degraded to a good degree. This is the problem with creating a series that is anything other than a spec series. There are just endless variables between the cars and tracks that can easily dictate who wins when you have drivers of this caliber competing in th Championship.

Sorry for the rather brief response...I'm at work and only have my iPhone to browse.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Good call on the GT-R Stealth,i had the weight added in my "A" setup but i was using "C" for this and it was 1050.With the weight at 1100 the Stealth is the same as the other GT-R's.Maybe it felt better to me because its new and special,i dont know. 50 kg seems to make a huge difference in inertia.I'm not even going to try and figure that one out...

momentum (inertia) is mass times velocity
p = mv

every bit of mass you add multiplies by speed
you can also look at newtons 2nd at F = ma
acceleration is fixed at 9.8m/s2 since you're just using gravity so the same thing applies. mass is a multiplier.

so in your testing you forgot to normalize mass.
You need to take out all the variables you're not interested in to isolate the one you are (drag).

I'm of the notion that the closest thing you can get to a wind tunnel in GT is in Florida. It's really the only thing that ovals are good for.

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As an aside; all the nerdy physics of racing is also why I'm very in favor of running ALL the cars at equal weight. Mass has large effects on everything in racing which is why most real series have a spec weight that all the cars are judged to.

TL;DR version:
I strongly recommend setting all the cars at an equal minimum weight and balancing based on power and aero after that.

 

[BrosifDuder]

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not even sure if my damn NSX has the chassis rigidity mod That in itself should be worth a couple of tenths and should make the thing easier and more consistant to drive.

Fortunately for me, I just checked and my car didn't have the "chassis reinforcement" mod, so I feel that mod will more than make up for the 6hp power reduction I will run next time out

Being extremely green to the whole GT500 world, I have been trying to learn as much as I can from the post throughout the thread. I typically run without the "chassis reinforcement" mod and am wondering if it really does make that big of a noticeable difference at the limit?



I was in room with Denilson last night and after we ran a practice race I realized that it was my very first online race in a GT500. It got me to thinking about how steep of a learning curve I have ahead of me. The most powerful car I have consistently raced in a series is the Lexus IS-F RM while dabbling a little with the Corvette Z06 RM. I typically can be found piloting a car with <300hp. That being said, I am having a ton of fun learning how to wrangle the NSX and am dead set on sticking with this creature. Even taking the massive increase of power out of the equation The MR layout can be so brutal at 10/10 and because of that I have usually stayed away. Some of the biggest challenges I have faced so far is getting a good feel for the brakes and traction while getting on the throttle.

I just want to thank everyone for all of the assistance and knowledge they have already offered in this thread, as well as all future contributions. If there is any GT500 "101" advice in regards to tuning, driving, racing, washing, loving, etc. that you think I should know I would love to hear it because, I assure you, I am completely clueless. I hope to be up to speed soon and have set a goal to be battling mid-pack by the middle of the season and if I happen to be lucky enough to capture a top five finish before the last race I will be ecstatic.

Lastly, I promise not to be a Hiro Matsu****a (M a t s u s h i t a) or, for you younger dudes, a Milka Duno. And I most certainly promise not to be a Yuji Ide (2:18, or just watch the whole video if you want the full effect)!

 

[Denilson]

The thing is though, ultimate lap times aren't a good indicator of the different cars performance throughout a 175km race, as your ignoring crucial aspects such as tire wear and how the car performance drops off once the tires are degraded to a good degree. This is the problem with creating a series that is anything other than a spec series. There are just endless variables between the cars and tracks that can easily dictate who wins when you have drivers of this caliber competing in th Championship.

Sorry for the rather brief response...I'm at work and only have my iPhone to browse.

Yes, I'm well aware of that.
Let's elaborate more in detail how I ran my tests.
I did a 10 lap race (In Free run).
Pushed 100% from lap 1.
From lap 5, I started to look at the laptimes, cause this is when you can start see the tires wer off imo.
So both laps I posted are run with 5 laps completed prior the lap time.
I do know that to come up with 100% equal cars is rather impossible. I should perhaps do longer runs than 10 laps. But 10ish laps is about the distance you'll be able to race (+/- a few laps depending on track), so I estimate that it's a good method/not to time consuming procedure.
Both cars had ok tires after 10 laps. More accurate than that is hard to get imo.

I totally agree about the bould part in you post.

momentum (inertia) is mass times velocity
p = mv

every bit of mass you add multiplies by speed
you can also look at newtons 2nd at F = ma
acceleration is fixed at 9.8m/s2 since you're just using gravity so the same thing applies. mass is a multiplier.

so in your testing you forgot to normalize mass.
You need to take out all the variables you're not interested in to isolate the one you are (drag).

I'm of the notion that the closest thing you can get to a wind tunnel in GT is in Florida. It's really the only thing that ovals are good for.

---

As an aside; all the nerdy physics of racing is also why I'm very in favor of running ALL the cars at equal weight. Mass has large effects on everything in racing which is why most real series have a spec weight that all the cars are judged to.

TL;DR version:
I strongly recommend setting all the cars at an equal minimum weight and balancing based on power and aero after that.

Yes, that's correct.
I think that we are actually getting close to equal cars, cause when looking at the specs sheet in post 2, it's pretty obvious that the cars are closer to eachother in weight compared to stock.
I.e What previous was 1090 kg - 1150 kg is now down to 1130 kg - 1150 kg. (The EPSON NSX apart since it's a black sheep in this crown because of it's nasty behaviour).
So yes, I totally agree, but we need to concider each cars individual nature as well.

Being extremely green to the whole GT500 world, I have been trying to learn as much as I can from the post throughout the thread. I typically run without the "chassis reinforcement" mod and am wondering if it really does make that big of a noticeable difference at the limit?



I was in room with Denilson last night and after we ran a practice race I realized that it was my very first online race in a GT500. It got me to thinking about how steep of a learning curve I have ahead of me. The most powerful car I have consistently raced in a series is the Lexus IS-F RM while dabbling a little with the Corvette Z06 RM. I typically can be found piloting a car with <300hp. That being said, I am having a ton of fun learning how to wrangle the NSX and am dead set on sticking with this creature. Even taking the massive increase of power out of the equation The MR layout can be so brutal at 10/10 and because of that I have usually stayed away. Some of the biggest challenges I have faced so far is getting a good feel for the brakes and traction while getting on the throttle.

I just want to thank everyone for all of the assistance and knowledge they have already offered in this thread, as well as all future contributions. If there is any GT500 "101" advice in regards to tuning, driving, racing, washing, loving, etc. that you think I should know I would love to hear it because, I assure you, I am completely clueless. I hope to be up to speed soon and have set a goal to be battling mid-pack by the middle of the season and if I happen to be lucky enough to capture a top five finish before the last race I will be ecstatic.

Lastly, I promise not to be a Hiro Matsu****a (M a t s u s h i t a) or, for you younger dudes, a Milka Duno. And I most certainly promise not to be a Yuji Ide (2:18, or just watch the whole video if you want the full effect)!

I'd love to give you some "101"s if I had any.
I guess it's pretty much the same as driving any car in GT5. But it takes a while to get used to the grip.
One thing that I try to improve after watching SuperSic (a.k.a tony1311) run is that what separates "us" from "them" is the approach to corners, and the ability to be on the limit thru the slow parts. Also the mid-corner tecnique, where you can see a slightly lower apex speed comparing with us, but as an affect can hit the throttle sooner..

Well, that's what I got for you now.. 👍
Hope it makes sence.

 

[paulmac2k9]

What! SuperSic is Tony!!?

 

[CSLACR]

1. Add more weight to the NSX.
It will even out the weight didtribution even further, and slow it down slightly in the acceleration. I'm thinking add another 20 kg (Total: 1150).
2. Reduce power for the NSX.
It will reduce it's top speed, and make it less dominant on the faster circuits. I'm thinking PL at 94,6%, PP at 604 (514 Bhp).
3. Compomize.
*Add 10 kg = Will improve handling a tad, and reduce acceleration/top speed.
*Reduce power. PL at 96,0%, PP at 605 (521 Bhp).
(605 PP is with the additional 10 kg)

Well, this started trying to equalize the NSX to the GTR's and SC430's, both calming the NSX down on straights and calming the SC430's and GTR's down in corners. (that was my initial goal)

With that in mind, I suggest keeping the lower weight (NSX 1130kg) since they're close on Monaco, and decreasing NSX power.
Evens them out on both more.👍

TL;DR version:
I strongly recommend setting all the cars at an equal minimum weight and balancing based on power and aero after that.

I have/had a suggestion for that, which was/is 1150kg 35/60 downforce for all.
The one issue with that it that the NSX will be a bit slower through the corners then the GTR's and SC430's at the same exact spec.
The Enos and Advan are square flat-out useless in my book.

No offense Dennis, if you can make them work that someone wants those two, more power to you, but they're just to be dumped in my book.

Also, I'm willing to do some testing over the weekend if you want me to. I only have the YH GT-R and YH Supra atm though, so I'd be willing to at least test those 2 cars against the Takata NSX. I'm not sure if I'll have the time nor the patience though to do testing comparisons on all the cars though, as to really do a thorough analysis (on lap times, tire wear, laps times as tires fall off, finding the optimal setup for race, etc.) would take a serious amount of seat time and hair pulling. Plus if I'm not on my toes (as far as driving) throughout the testing of each car, it could skew things a bit also...which I rather not be blame for

If you can test just those 3 cars, it's still a great help. 👍
I'm a bit convinced the lower downforce hurts the Bandai and YMS, but if you can confirm through tire wear or better driving they even up, all the better.

I'll have to throw chassis mod on my ARTA and see if that helps, I know Redreevos just had one on his NSX RM '91 and hated it, so I guess we'll see how we like it.


Finally, one important thing I have learned, and this goes for everyone to keep in mind, is just because car "x" works great for one driver, doesn't mean it will work great for another, the differences in style, skill, and tune all play their role in outcomes.
We can't make the cars "perfect" in that sense, even if all the same exact car, it's all a balancing act. A good example is Nepalli last night struggling with the Denso/Petronas (same) SC430 vs the GTR at Spa, running faster with the GTR, while I ran them within a tenth or two myself.

Appreciate everyone's comments, theories, and tests, the more the merrier guys.

 

[Ansem29GTPlay]

hi everyone

if it's possible i would register in, i'm coming here from my teamfriend LitchiGTPlay, he told me about your competition and it seem nice

i'm clean and fair no worry about this lol. my psn ID is: Ansem29_GTPlay

i hope i'm not doing mistake with posting here lol, a little lost on the forum, my first time here.

thank you (and sorry for my bad english lol)

see you soon i hope

 

[Denilson]

Well, this started trying to equalize the NSX to the GTR's and SC430's, both calming the NSX down on straights and calming the SC430's and GTR's down in corners. (that was my initial goal)

With that in mind, I suggest keeping the lower weight (NSX 1130kg) since they're close on Monaco, and decreasing NSX power.
Evens them out on both more.👍


I have/had a suggestion for that, which was/is 1150kg 35/60 downforce for all.
The one issue with that it that the NSX will be a bit slower through the corners then the GTR's and SC430's at the same exact spec.
The Enos and Advan are square flat-out useless in my book.

No offense Dennis, if you can make them work that someone wants those two, more power to you, but they're just to be dumped in my book.

If you can test just those 3 cars, it's still a great help. 👍
I'm a bit convinced the lower downforce hurts the Bandai and YMS, but if you can confirm through tire wear or better driving they even up, all the better.

I'll have to throw chassis mod on my ARTA and see if that helps, I know Redreevos just had one on his NSX RM '91 and hated it, so I guess we'll see how we like it.


Finally, one important thing I have learned, and this goes for everyone to keep in mind, is just because car "x" works great for one driver, doesn't mean it will work great for another, the differences in style, skill, and tune all play their role in outcomes.
We can't make the cars "perfect" in that sense, even if all the same exact car, it's all a balancing act. A good example is Nepalli last night struggling with the Denso/Petronas (same) SC430 vs the GTR at Spa, running faster with the GTR, while I ran them within a tenth or two myself.

Appreciate everyone's comments, theories, and tests, the more the merrier guys.

Non taken. It's just that I want to give them some more time before any final decisions. Even tho I think you're right. 👍

 

[Denilson]

Ansem29GTPlay: Hi.
I made it easy for my self and posted what I said to your friend PureGT_Muzz.

Litchi_GTPlay told me about you the other day, and I'm sure you're an awesome driver.
To race here requires commitment and contribution. I'm sure you know how important that is from running your site. 👍

Regarding the cars: Do not mix up all different specs beeing discussed in the thread. The sheet you should pay attention to is the list in post 2. That's the specs all cars are supposed to run according to. The list is updated as we progress. And it looks like it will be final within a week.

We are also going to run 2 pre season races (Sunday, October 30th, and Sunday, November 6th).
Below (Or in this case, the next page since Litchi was really fast posting.. ) is the 2nd room sign up list. I think it would be great if you signed up. It's a good way to get to know eachother.
And to sign up, simply follow this procedure:
When reading the post, you got a "Qoute" button down right. Press it.
You'll now see the post in "pre-post" format.
In the beginning and in the end of the post, you can see [QOUTE]-tags.
Remove them.
Add your name and car to the first available spot.
Then just post it as any other message.


The fact that we are attracting drivers from outside GTP is a sign if any that we got something big comming up.
The commitment, contribution and general level in here is what makes that happend. It's because all of you who keep this thread alive with high quality posts, and high quality racing that does this! Big ups to all of you guys! 👍 👍 👍

 

[Litchi]

hi everyone

if it's possible i would register in, i'm coming here from my teamfriend LitchiGTPlay, he told me about your competition and it seem nice

i'm clean and fair no worry about this lol. my psn ID is: Ansem29_GTPlay

i hope i'm not doing mistake with posting here lol, a little lost on the forum, my first time here.

thank you (and sorry for my bad english lol)

see you soon i hope

YEAAAAAHHHH. I'm finally not alone! 👍

 

[Denilson]

Room 2
PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Spa | 175 km | Sunday, October 30th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. GTP_Aderrrm - TBD
2. Remy_K - TBD
3. R1600Turbo - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
4. moleman - TBD
5. Dr_Watson (TnJF) - Toyota CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA
6. lapierre4 - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
7. WiiFreak - TBD
8. Litchi_GTPlay - Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z
9. GV27 - Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430
10. paulmac2k9 - TBD
11. Josh_F_1998 - Nissan CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
12. BrosifDuder - Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
13.
14.

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[CSLACR]

When racing in an OFFICIAL PURE JGTS room, your car is supposed to be tuned to the following specs. Note that the PP is when aero is maxed out. (Except Castrol Tom's Supra) You're allowed to tweak your aero settings, but you can not tune up your engine to make up for the PP lost thru reducing aero.

Hopped on down to Post #2, added something that I found could be useful. Of course I could have mis-interpreted.

 

[NEPALII]

Why add 50KG ballast to the Lexus? The Lexus loses on the straights big time, so it needs to be quicker on the turns to make it even with the rest. Im sorry but the specs are off right now. The NSX is too fast, the Lexus has no power. The GTR is good, feels balanced. The Lexus and the NSX need work in my opinion.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Lets talk about the practice race coming up:

IMO spa has some issues we need ground rules for.

Running wide on the run-off in Pouhon and Blanchimont should come with a penalty. I tend to be a bit draconian on the things so I'd say that if a driver goes beyond the kerbing they're required to lift and let cars through that stayed on track.

discuss....

 

[NEPALII]

I think you should be allowed to touch the green part with 2 wheels. You put 4 and you get a penalty. That's the way I see it, and that's the way I do the corner sometimes.

 

[murky1]

Room 2
PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Spa | 175 km | Sunday, October 30th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. GTP_Aderrrm - TBD
2. Remy_K - TBD
3. R1600Turbo - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
4. moleman - TBD
5. Dr_Watson (TnJF) - Toyota CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA
6. lapierre4 - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
7. WiiFreak - TBD
8. Litchi_GTPlay - Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z
9. GV27 - Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430
10. paulmac2k9 - TBD
11. Josh_F_1998 - Nissan CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
12. BrosifDuder - Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
13. PureGT_Muzz - Nissan YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R
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[murky1]

@ Wardez

Yes I should be able to make every race. I will be getting up early, around 6am New Zealand time to race and practice. Things happen sometimes so if there is any reason I can not make a race I will let you know here as soon as I can.

No worries with the Pure thing mate. The more Pure the better. 👍

I really don't know too much about tuning so I don't know how much I can contribute but I will do my best.

 

[murky1]

Lets talk about the practice race coming up:

Running wide on the run-off in Pouhon and Blanchimont should come with a penalty. I tend to be a bit draconian on the things so I'd say that if a driver goes beyond the kerbing they're required to lift and let cars through that stayed on track.

discuss....

Two wheels on the green max. All same GTfusiOn and any good race series. Self imposed penalty of a three second(???) lift if you put four on the green. Only lift when it is safe to do so and stay off the racing line when you do it. I would suggest this should be done on the home straight. It is by far the safest place IMO.

 

[PureGTMuzz]

Ooops sorry about the wrong sign in name of murky1 on my 3 posts above.

GTPlanet registration would not accept an underscore so I created murky1. Then I decideded I didn't really need the underscore in PureGTMuzz so made that account. Browser cache caught me out and I do not know how to remove my own posts on this site.

PS - You could deliberatly give yourself a penalty by running wide at turn one after the home straight instead of lifting. It's a pretty safe place to do so. Just a thought.

 

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