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[CSLACR]

Updated specs for the Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX.

Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
Bhp: -
Weight: 1130 kg (Recommended Ballast Position: -50)
PP: 605 (With Full Aero)
PL: 96,6%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement


With the abowe soecs, output is 523 HP.. I need the Bhp fighures to keep the specs sheet as sreamlined as possible, without the possibility to misunderstand.

Dennis, there is no difference between HP and BHP in GT5.
In real life, the difference is where they're measured.

I'd forgotten you said something about them, But my GTR's at 518HP, Petrona's at 513HP @ 95.2%, YMS Supra at 534HP, etc
So the 502HP for stealth GTR and 523HP for stealth NSX are good.👍

BTW - Tested a bit last night at Spa, the Yellowhat vs the Stealth, very close now in terms of pace. I couldn't do to much for exact lap times because my throttle was sticking on, never got a full lap without it sticking a little, but seemed pretty identical overall.👍
I'll try them out at Monaco when I get the chance. (maybe tonight, idk yet)

Can't commit to what level?

I think he's just looking for who plans to attend every race possible within reason, etc.
I think the PM idea is best for that though.

 

[Denilson]

Dennis, there is no difference between HP and BHP in GT5.
In real life, the difference is where they're measured.

I'd forgotten you said something about them, But my GTR's at 518HP, Petrona's at 513HP @ 95.2%, YMS Supra at 534HP, etc
So the 502HP for stealth GTR and 523HP for stealth NSX are good.👍

BTW - Tested a bit last night at Spa, the Yellowhat vs the Stealth, very close now in terms of pace. I couldn't do to much for exact lap times because my throttle was sticking on, never got a full lap without it sticking a little, but seemed pretty identical overall.👍
I'll try them out at Monaco when I get the chance. (maybe tonight, idk yet)


I think he's just looking for who plans to attend every race possible within reason, etc.
I think the PM idea is best for that though.

Aha, ok. I've always thought there was a slight difference because as you say, the measur method is different..
But if they are the same, perfect! 👍

OwensRacing told me that, but I was not sure.

Yes, PM is the way to go unless I have to repost the post like 400 times..

 

[Andil]

Can someone add me to the Room 2 list? Car TBD. I can quote on the iphone app but it doesnt keep the formatting

 

[Wardez]

Room 2: ​

PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Laguna Seca | 175 km | Sunday, November 6th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. GTF_Apollo - CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
2. GTP_Aderrrm - TAKATA DOME NSX
3. GV27- - DENSO DUNLOP LEXUS SC430
4. BiffyClyro93 - CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
5. Dr_Watson (TnJF) - Castrol TOMS SUPRA
6. OwensRacing - NSX ARTA/Stealth
7. joshua1994 - YMS Supra
8. paulmac2k9 - TBD
9. Josh_F_1998 - Nissan Calsonic GTR 08
10. Paginas - YellowHat YMS TOMICA
11. TRP_NOSS - TBD
12. TRP_REPLAY - TBD
13. RedReevos - TBD
14. Moieman - Nissan C-WEST RAZO SILVIA ‘01

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👍

 

[Denilson]

Room 1: ​

PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Laguna Seca | 175 km | Sunday, November 6th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. chorda - TAKATA DOME NSX
2. Neomone - TBD
3. Wardez - WOODONE ADVAN GT-R
4. WiiFreak - STEALTH GT500 GT-R
5. RedReevos - TBD
6. Litchi_GTPlay - TBD
7. GTP_CSL - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
8. NEPALII - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
9. El_Aliens69 - XANAVI NISMO Z
10. MULE_9242 - Stealth GT-R
11. Minion07 - TBD
12. PureGT_Muzz - Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R
13. GTP_Welsh-Bain - TBD
14. Ansem29_GTPlay - TBD
(15. Scanny_Flick - XANAVI NISMO GT-R)

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Room 2: ​

PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Laguna Seca | 175 km | Sunday, November 6th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. GTF_Apollo - CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
2. GTP_Aderrrm - TAKATA DOME NSX
3. GV27- - DENSO DUNLOP LEXUS SC430
4. BiffyClyro93 - CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
5. Dr_Watson (TnJF) - Castrol TOMS SUPRA
6. OwensRacing - NSX ARTA/Stealth
7. joshua1994 - YMS Supra
8. paulmac2k9 - TBD
9. Josh_F_1998 - Nissan Calsonic GTR 08
10. Paginas - YellowHat YMS TOMICA
11. TRP_NOSS - TBD
12. TRP_REPLAY - TBD
13. GTP_timeattack - TAKATA DOME NSX
14. moleman - TBD

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[Denilson]

The Outlaw is switching places with RedReevos..

Both rooms full! 👍

 

[Scanny_Flick]

I don't think I can make the practice race now Den, it's my nieces 1st birthday party and I'm 99% sure it won't be finished anywhere near in time.

Besides that my sister in law would probably cut my 'you know what's' off if I so much as utter the words online racing at all on Sunday :-(

I'm registered in room 1 so there will be a space there now, also I am still 100% for the series 👍

 

[HF_NOS]

Thanks for the tunes denilson. much better than mine.

btw I bought the yellowhat supra but it wont allow me to buy engine stage 2! only engine stage 3 and turbos.

 

[Imari]

I don't think I can make the practice race now Den, it's my nieces 1st birthday party and I'm 99% sure it won't be finished anywhere near in time.

Besides that my sister in law would probably cut my 'you know what's' off if I so much as utter the words online racing at all on Sunday :-(

I'm registered in room 1 so there will be a space there now, also I am still 100% for the series 👍

I should be able to take your place, if no one else wants it.

 

[Denilson]

Room 1: ​

PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Laguna Seca | 175 km | Sunday, November 6th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. chorda - TAKATA DOME NSX
2. Neomone - TBD
3. Wardez - WOODONE ADVAN GT-R
4. WiiFreak - STEALTH GT500 GT-R
5. RedReevos - TBD
6. Litchi_GTPlay - TBD
7. GTP_CSL - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
8. NEPALII - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
9. El_Aliens69 - XANAVI NISMO Z
10. MULE_9242 - Stealth GT-R
11. Minion07 - TBD
12. PureGT_Muzz - Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R
13. GTP_Welsh-Bain - TBD
14. Ansem29_GTPlay - TBD
(15. Scanny_Flick - XANAVI NISMO GT-R)

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Room 2: ​

PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Laguna Seca | 175 km | Sunday, November 6th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. GTF_Apollo - CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
2. GTP_Aderrrm - TAKATA DOME NSX
3. GV27- - DENSO DUNLOP LEXUS SC430
4. BiffyClyro93 - CALSONIC IMPUL GT-R
5. Dr_Watson (TnJF) - Castrol TOMS SUPRA
6. OwensRacing - NSX ARTA/Stealth
7. joshua1994 - YMS Supra
8. paulmac2k9 - TBD
9. Josh_F_1998 - Nissan Calsonic GTR 08
10. Paginas - YellowHat YMS TOMICA
11. TRP_NOSS - TBD
12. TRP_REPLAY - TBD
13. GTP_timeattack - TAKATA DOME NSX
14. moleman - TBD

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[Denilson]

HF_NOSS: That's a typo from my part. It should be Engine Stage 3, and it will bring your YMS SUPRA to 534 Bhp. 👍

Glad you liked the tunes. 👍

 

[Denilson]

Up dated YMS SUPRA specs.
(As always, the latest specs sheet is always posted in the OP, post 2)

Toyota YELLOWHAT SUPRA
Bhp: 526
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 603 (With Full Aero)
PL: 98,6%
Allowed Mods: Engine Stage 3, Ridgity Improvement

 

[Denilson]

YMS SUPRA tune added to the tuning register in the OP (post 2).

Toyota YELLOWHAT SUPRA:
DF: 36/60
GR: Depending on track
LSD: 10 / 20 / 5
CAM: 2,3 / 1,8
TOE: -0,08 / -0,04
RH: 0 / -2
SR: 14,6 / 15,6
EXT: 7 / 7
COM: 7 / 7
ARB: 4 / 4
BB: 3 / 4

Spa: 1:14.8XX
Monaco: 1:31.9XX

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430:
DF: 36/60
GR: Depending on track
LSD: 10 / 20 / 5
CAM: 2,4 / 1,8
TOE: -0,06 / -0,12
RH: -1 / -3
SR: 14,8 / 15,3
EXT: 7 / 7
COM: 6 / 7
ARB: 4 / 4
BB: 4 / 4

Spa: 1:14.7XX
Monaco: 1:31.6XX


I did some top speed tests with the cars at current (Amost final) specs at the end of the long straight after Eau Rouge:

Top Speed at Spa.

AUTECH MOTUL GT-R:
275 km/h

XANAVI NISMO GT-R
275 km/h

YELLOWHAT GT-R
275 km/h

CALSONIC GT-R
275 km/h

WOODONE GT-R
---?--- km/h

STEALTH GT500 GT-R
275 km/h

TAKATA DOME NSX
279 km/h

RAYBRIG NSX
280 km/h

ARTA NSX
279 km/h

EPSON NSX
279 km/h

STEALTH GT500 NSX
280 km/h

CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA
276 km/h

XANAVI NISMO Z
273 km/h

BANDAI DIREZZA SC430
276 km/h

ENEOS SC430
277 km/h

PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
274 km/h

DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430
274 km/h

YELLOWHAT SUPRA
283 km/h




NOTE: Some small changes have been made to the car specs sheet. Exept for the already mentioned YMS SUPRA, tweaks have also been done for the XANAVI Z, and RAYBRIG NSX.

I would still love to see some Spa, Monaco and Suzuka lap times. Just make sure the car are set up according to the latest car specs sheet (Can always be found in the OP, post 2).

 

[Joshua1994]

Gonna give this tune a shot. Got a room up Dennis?

 

[Denilson]

Yep, for 10 more minutes.

 

[paulmac2k9]

right got all of the cars time to run in them and get testing

 

[Joshua1994]

1472 - 4710 - 9909 - 6404 - 0809

Ran the tracks you listed about Dennis and got these on a 5 lap stint.

Monza - High 1.46's on avg (easily possible to break into 1.45's, maybe lows)
Spa - Mid to low 2.16's
Monaco - Low 1.34's on avg
Suzuka - Mid 1.59's on avg

Bare in mind I've always been one of the slower qualifiers.

 

[CSLACR]

Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
Bhp: - 523
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 605 (With Full Aero)
PL: - 96.6%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement


Nissan STEALTH GT500 GT-R
Bhp: - 502
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 608 (With Full Aero)
PL: - 87.8%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement


I'm getting on now, wrote all the current specs down, these two are still left blank in post #2 though.
It's going to be hard to tell exactly what PP to set the stealth GTR at, but I should have a definitive answer within an hour or two.

Taco's will hold me up for a bit yet though.
I LOVE Tacos!

 

[Denilson]

Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
Bhp: - 523
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 605 (With Full Aero)
PL: - 96.6%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement


Nissan STEALTH GT500 GT-R
Bhp: - 502
Weight: 1130 kg
PP: 608 (With Full Aero)
PL: - 87.8%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement


I'm getting on now, wrote all the current specs down, these two are still left blank in post #2 though.
It's going to be hard to tell exactly what PP to set the stealth GTR at, but I should have a definitive answer within an hour or two.

Taco's will hold me up for a bit yet though.
I LOVE Tacos!

Oh, yea.. sorry.. Gonna update post 2 asap!

Will be very interesting to see your times.

Tacos is great!!

 

[CSLACR]

Other room apparently closed, new room.

1472 6118 3744 3754 1550
Closed, will have results and some proposed changes along with some Laguna Seca tunes for those looking, for most cars.

 

[CSLACR]

First, tunes and times. lsd set to 8/11/5 for each car, that's my comfort zone. Testing done at Laguna Seca, with current specs.


Toyota YELLOWHAT SUPRA - 1:22.1xx
Specs in this time/tune:

Bhp: 526
Weight: 1130 kg (Recommended Ballast Position: 50)
PP: 603 (With Full Aero)
PL: 98,6%
Allowed Mods: Engine Stage 3, Ridgity Improvement

Tune:
0 / 0

2.3 / 1.2​

15.8 / 15.8

0.00 / -0.10​

5 / 8
8 / 4
6 / 6


YELLOWHAT YMS TOMICA GT-R - 1:21.7xx
Specs:

Bhp: 518
Weight: 1130 kg (Recommended Ballast Position: 0)
PP: 607 (With Full Aero)
PL: 100%
Allowed mods: Ridgity Improvement

Tune:
0 / 0

2.0 / 1.0​

15.8 / 15.8

0.00 / 0.00​

5 / 7
7 / 5
6 / 6


Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430 - 1:21.7xx
Specs:

Bhp: 513
Weight: 1130 kg (Recommended Ballast Position: 0)
PP: 609 (With Full Aero)
PL: 95,2%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 2, Ridgity Improvement

Tune:
-22 / -27

2.0 / 1.0​

15.8 / 14.8

0.00 / 0.00​

7 / 7
7 / 7
6 / 6


Toyota CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA - 1:21.5xx
Specs:

Bhp: 515
Weight: 1150 kg
PP: 611 (Max Allowed DF: 40/65)
PL: 99,7%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement

Tune:
1 / -1

2.0 / 1.0​

14.8 / 13.8

0.00 / 0.00​

7 / 6
7 / 7
6 / 5


Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 - 1:21.4xx
Specs:

Bhp: 540
Weight: 1100 kg
PP: 615 (With Full Aero)
PL: 89,7%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 3, Ridgity Improvement

Tune:
0 / 0

2.0 / 1.0​

14.8 / 14.8

0.00 / +0.20​

8 / 7
7 / 7
7 / 6


Honda TAKATA DOME NSX(ARTA) - 1:22.3xx
Specs:

Bhp: 511
Weight: 1100 kg
PP: 606 (With Full Aero)
PL: 94.2%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 2, Ridgity Improvement

Tune:
-5 / 0

2.0 / 1.0​

13.8 / 15.3

-0.15 / +0.20​

4 / 8
7 / 7
6 / 6





Proposed new specs:

Toyota YELLOWHAT SUPRA
Bhp: - 519
Weight: 1090 kg
PP: 604 (With Full Aero)
PL: - 97.2%
Allowed Mods: Engine Stage 3, Ridgity Improvement
Lighter weight allows better cornering, lower power slows it down.

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430
Bhp: - 532
Weight: 1100 kg
PP: 613 (With Full Aero)
PL: - 99.9%%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 2, Ridgity Improvement
The fastest, I think. Definitely needs less power, possibly less then this spec here. must do further testing.

Honda ARTA NSX, Honda TAKATA DOME NSX
Bhp: 511
Weight: 1100 kg
PP: 606 (With Full Aero)
PL: 94.2%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 2, Ridgity Improvement
Lighter weight allows quicker cornering, lower power makes it less of a freight train.

Honda STEALTH NSX
Bhp: 516?
Weight: 1100 kg (Recommended Ballast Position: -50)
PP: 606 (With Full Aero)
PL: ?%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement
Same principle as the others, will test Raybrig, bob's breaking in now.

Toyota CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA
Bhp: 511? (IIRC)
Weight: 1150 kg
PP: 610 (Max Allowed DF: 40/65)
PL: 99,7%
Allowed Mods: Ridgity Improvement
Still handles great, a bit quicker straight line as others and just as good in corners, probably should be closer to Z's power level like this.

 

[Denilson]

Awesome tests! Thanks! 👍

But I must ask you about the weight for the NSX's and SUPRA YELLOWHAT, cause you say that less weight improve cornering.
Imo, the extra weight for both of them actually improve cornering and also evens out the tire wear to a much more neutral and less aggressive wear (Rears for the NSX, and fronts for the YMS SUPRA).

Make sence?

 

[CSLACR]

Awesome tests! Thanks! 👍

But I must ask you about the weight for the NSX's and SUPRA YELLOWHAT, cause you say that less weight improve cornering.
Imo, the extra weight for both of them actually improve cornering and also evens out the tire wear to a much more neutral and less aggressive wear (Rears for the NSX, and fronts for the YMS SUPRA).

Make sence?

It basically depends on how you set up the car. Without much tuning, the extra weight balances the cars out somewhat, but if you set them up to drive neutral, tire wear will balance out.
In other words, the rear of the NSX doesn't have enough grip relative to the front, adding weight makes the front have less grip, making the car automatically more balance, but it doesn't increase the amount of rear grip, so it still has the same limits on the rear, but less on the front.

And vice versa for the Yellowhat, ballast doesn't add grip to the front in corners, it just makes the rear slide easier.
You can make either car neutral without the extra weight. I assume anyone using a car for the season will put effort into the tune of the car to make it drive better to suit their driving style, and for even tire wear, in which case lighter will corner faster.

 

[TheMinion]

Guys, there a chance i won't be able to make the second practice race this weekend.

I'll be at a friends house and depending on him to bring me home, before the race starts.
I wrecked my car and i'm still waiting the insurance money to get a new one. No transportation sucks

 

[Denilson]

Minion: Thanks for telling us. 👍
Hope everything will sort out for you.


New BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 tune, laptimes and top speed:

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430:
DF: 35 / 60
GR: Depending on track
LSD: 10 / 20 / 5
CAM: 2,4 / 1,8
TOE: -0,06 / -0,12
RH: -1 / -3
SR: 14,8 / 15,3
EXT: 7 / 7
COM: 6 / 7
ARB: 4 / 4
BB: 4 / 4

Spa: 2:14.7XX
Monaco: 1:31.6XX

Top speed: 276 km/h

 

[paulmac2k9]

all cars seems very close based on you spa and monaco laps, also in top speeds, Den great work 👍

 

[CSLACR]

Minion: Thanks for telling us. 👍
Hope everything will sort out for you.


New BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 tune, laptimes and top speed:

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430:
DF: 35 / 60
GR: Depending on track
LSD: 10 / 20 / 5
CAM: 2,4 / 1,8
TOE: -0,06 / -0,12
RH: -1 / -3
SR: 14,8 / 15,3
EXT: 7 / 7
COM: 6 / 7
ARB: 4 / 4
BB: 4 / 4

Spa: 1:14.7XX
Monaco: 1:31.6XX

Top speed: 276 km/h

Is that with the stage 3 turbo, limited to 540hp, or stage 2 limited (barely) to 532hp?

 

[Denilson]

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430
Bhp: 528
Weight: 1100 kg
PP: 612 (With Full Aero)
PL: 99,1%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 2, Ridgity Improvement

 

[CSLACR]

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430
Bhp: 528
Weight: 1100 kg
PP: 612 (With Full Aero)
PL: 99,1%
Allowed Mods: Turbo Stage 2, Ridgity Improvement

👍

 

[ErikAndre71]

New BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 tune, laptimes and top speed:

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430:
DF: 35 / 60
GR: Depending on track
LSD: 10 / 20 / 5
CAM: 2,4 / 1,8
TOE: -0,06 / -0,12
RH: -1 / -3
SR: 14,8 / 15,3
EXT: 7 / 7
COM: 6 / 7
ARB: 4 / 4
BB: 4 / 4

Spa: 1:14.7XX
Monaco: 1:31.6XX

Top speed: 276 km/h

wow, I did a 1:18 with the x2010 that Lexus is fast