PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!
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The Outlaw
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Sorry for the rather annoying issue I have created by dropping out guys 
If you don't mind me sharing my 2 cents - I feel that unless you signed up to be fully commited for the Championship (and not a reserve driver or person who dropped out, like myself), maybe it would be best to leave these folks out of the official standings at the end of the race and not give them points, since they aren't really contending for the Championship to begin. Thinking of the worst case scenario where the Championship is decided say at the last race where a reserve driver gets in the mix...I certainly don't think that would be a very good feeling for the reserve driver taking part, and it could very well leave the guy (who was runner up by say just 2 points) who got the short end the stick with a sour taste in his mouth I could imagine.
I think Tony would have most certainly won that round regardless if he had been carrying another 20kg of ballast though (although the 20kg could have possibly meant a position or so in the heat race = 1 or so less point overall). It's also very fortunate that he was loaded up to the maximum ballast weight (iirc) after Nurb F, meaning that extra 20kg he should have been served at Spa would have had no affect either way on the result at La Sarthe or going forward.
In the case of WiiFreak, he didn't participate in the race after Suzuka (where he theoretically should have had ballast), so that ballast he earned in Round 1would have been dropped for Round 3 regardless, putting him back to 0kg of ballast total.
With Denilson, he only scored 3 points at the round following Spa and would have dropped the 20kg automatically by being off the podium. Same goes for Adam. And fortunately to make things easy enough, both Adam and Dennis DNF'd (nor got pole or FL) that race so it's not like the ballast really had much of/if any affect on the results/outcome of their races.
With all that said, it's quite amazing/coincidental how well it works out in the end...I'd say
From my perspective it could be an issue in my eyes though (particularly for 2 guys who finished ahead of me at Suzuka). But fortunately for the sake of solving this matter, WiiFreak didn't participate in the round after Suzuka (as I said before), so the ballast that should have been handed out would have made no difference, as he didn't participate...thus returning him to 0kg of ballast at Nurb F.
Considering everything I said, I think you guys should be perfectly safe to drop my name from the results, and adjust the results/points standings accordingly (not just each round, but also adjust each particular race to reflect this!) 👍
If you don't mind me sharing my 2 cents - I feel that unless you signed up to be fully commited for the Championship (and not a reserve driver or person who dropped out, like myself), maybe it would be best to leave these folks out of the official standings at the end of the race and not give them points, since they aren't really contending for the Championship to begin. Thinking of the worst case scenario where the Championship is decided say at the last race where a reserve driver gets in the mix...I certainly don't think that would be a very good feeling for the reserve driver taking part, and it could very well leave the guy (who was runner up by say just 2 points) who got the short end the stick with a sour taste in his mouth I could imagine.
I think Tony would have most certainly won that round regardless if he had been carrying another 20kg of ballast though (although the 20kg could have possibly meant a position or so in the heat race = 1 or so less point overall). It's also very fortunate that he was loaded up to the maximum ballast weight (iirc) after Nurb F, meaning that extra 20kg he should have been served at Spa would have had no affect either way on the result at La Sarthe or going forward.
In the case of WiiFreak, he didn't participate in the race after Suzuka (where he theoretically should have had ballast), so that ballast he earned in Round 1would have been dropped for Round 3 regardless, putting him back to 0kg of ballast total.
With Denilson, he only scored 3 points at the round following Spa and would have dropped the 20kg automatically by being off the podium. Same goes for Adam. And fortunately to make things easy enough, both Adam and Dennis DNF'd (nor got pole or FL) that race so it's not like the ballast really had much of/if any affect on the results/outcome of their races.
With all that said, it's quite amazing/coincidental how well it works out in the end...I'd say
From my perspective it could be an issue in my eyes though (particularly for 2 guys who finished ahead of me at Suzuka). But fortunately for the sake of solving this matter, WiiFreak didn't participate in the round after Suzuka (as I said before), so the ballast that should have been handed out would have made no difference, as he didn't participate...thus returning him to 0kg of ballast at Nurb F.
Considering everything I said, I think you guys should be perfectly safe to drop my name from the results, and adjust the results/points standings accordingly (not just each round, but also adjust each particular race to reflect this!) 👍
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I really don't have an issue with people not having the correct ballast for races past based on their position being upgraded due to people leaving the series. To me, if I finished 10th in a race, regardless of who was ahead of me, I get points for 10th, end of story. I don't see the need to juggle positions each time someone leaves the championship.
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Hmmm, I see...so it does present a bit of a precarious situation then. I just assumed (I was actually going to ask but didn't) the ballast would be dropped in that case.
IMO, it's a bit questionable that they carry ballast into the following race even in the event of a missed race. I mean obviously they're not doing themselves any good in the Championship by missing the race, so I don't see much point in attempting to set them back further once they return for the next race.
I think it would just be easier to abolish that rule and make it so if they miss a race, 20kg is deducted from their ballast total, rather than trying to figure out what to do with the controversial ballast issue with WiiFreak.
It does create a total headache for the poor soul who is stuck having to do the math, especially the later a person drops out of a series
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It does create a total headache for the poor soul who is stuck having to do the math, especially the later a person drops out of a series
not really, I just delete your race results and the math does itself.
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Ok, well in that case...
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Yea, I'd imagine it's all brought about due to fact that there are 2 dropped rounds, and you can try and set yourself up for the ideal 8 rounds by skipping a round or 2 and losing a bit of ballast. But regardless, if you wanted to skip a round so you could drop the ballast for the next race, you would be better off just trying to stay off the podium. It's way too risky (unless it's the very end of the season and you're in a safe position) just to sit out a round soley for the benefit of the next round and trying to achieve the best 8 results you can.
With that said, I still think abolishing that rule would be the easy way to fix the problem we were discussing earlier (with Wii's ballast issue after Suzuka). But I'm an outsider now, so my 2 cent are probably rather worthless
With that said, I still think abolishing that rule would be the easy way to fix the problem we were discussing earlier (with Wii's ballast issue after Suzuka). But I'm an outsider now, so my 2 cent are probably rather worthless
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You share views with me too often to disregard your opinion.But I'm an outsider now, so my 2 cent are probably rather worthless
Don't take my words for granted, but I am slower all of a sudden. The Miatas I could run low 33s at Laguna, only managed high 34s now. Lexus GT500, had flat 21s, now low 22s. 
The cars seem to have more grip though...
It could just be me going insane as its almost 3AM and Im tired as hell. Will find out later when I wake up if something has drastically changed.
The cars seem to have more grip though... It could just be me going insane as its almost 3AM and Im tired as hell. Will find out later when I wake up if something has drastically changed.
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OMFG DUDE no! This is a way bigger deal than the draft even! If we had half a race simulator before, we have at least 3/4's of one now. I'm freaking stoooooooked! On my way home for testing. It's like a re-birth. **** spec tires!
and btw, for the record, we will still allow use of ABS even though we usually run all available aids off (it's a new restriction choice in 2.02)
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CSLACRNope, just PD fixing the age old glitch.
Soft tires wear really fast now, hard tires are exactly the same. No adjustements, other then PD fixing a bug.
I was hoping it would be the other way around, IMO the soft tyres wear at about the right rate (as they were) and it was the med's and hards that needed to last longer
Not that it matters here but now soft tyres will last about 6 laps of an average length track........can't be right
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Even the Pirelli softs last longer than 6 laps lol
That's the first thing I thought.
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I've read a couple of reports that people are running slower times (+ 1sec) than they were pre-update on like for like tyres.
Can anyone here who has had the opportunity to run comment on this??
Can anyone here who has had the opportunity to run comment on this??
