PURE | JGTS2-Congratulations to champions tony1311 and team Xanavi Z!

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hey now... I complained about the NSX at monaco... because I was stuck behind rees for 1/2 the race going slow in the corners but completely unable to overtake in the tunnel or up the hill. That car was infuriating; it was too slow in the corners so you'd get held up in the twisty bits then get overpowered on the straights. Even if you got by in a corner the NSX could just zoom by and hold you up again at the next set of corners. :P

Yes. I did'nt say that the cars was perfect, but that, pace wise, they were equal over the 10 rounds.
You getting stuck behind one is only racing.

And at La Sarthe, you could follow in it's draft and be faster in the corners? đź’ˇ

It's too much focus on that other cars always have some kind of advantage.
In WSGTC 2, the GT-R was "superiour" - I drove a GT-R
In JGTS 1, the NSX was "superiour" - I drove a NSX
In JGTS 2, the HSV is "superiour" - drive a HSV

I find it strange actually.


But I understand your frustration beeing stuck behind a NSX around Monaco. But that has much more to do with the track it self rather than how "superiour" the NSX was for the other 90% of the championship.
 
It should be the same, but they're two different registrations.

But hey guys, I'll be in my bunk. Time for sleeps. I'll check in later.
 
Should i be able to logg in with same user as for the pure forum?

It's whatever you made when joining the series.
Username is as it's listed in the series standings: "Basse-101"

If you need the password reset that's easy to do.

Yes. I did'nt say that the cars was perfect, but that, pace wise, they were equal over the 10 rounds.
You getting stuck behind one is only racing.

And at La Sarthe, you could follow in it's draft and be faster in the corners? đź’ˇ

It's too much focus on that other cars always have some kind of advantage.
In WSGTC 2, the GT-R was "superiour" - I drove a GT-R
In JGTS 1, the NSX was "superiour" - I drove a NSX
In JGTS 2, the HSV is "superiour" - drive a HSV

I find it strange actually.


But I understand your frustration beeing stuck behind a NSX around Monaco. But that has much more to do with the track it self rather than how "superiour" the NSX was for the other 90% of the championship.

hehe, just letting you know it was possible to complain about the NSX everywhere in the dry. ;)
Felt really bad for them at the Spa monsoon though :(

4 sectors at motegi.

Pretty sure there's four sectors.

It's set at 4 now, so you can enter your sectors.
 
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Hey guys I was just checking the practice times for Motegi and its showing 2:14. Is that correct?

Eddie and I were doing 1:50's earlier.
 
I didnt create Basse-101 for the website so dont know the password. Ive created a new one named basse-101 wich is the right psn name :)
 
Losailracer7
Hey guys I was just checking the practice times for Motegi and its showing 2:14. Is that correct?

Eddie and I were doing 1:50's earlier.

Something have gone wrong and all times have jumped down :) that is spa times. Motegi is noe suzuka
 
Welcome Sal.đź‘Ť
Motegi times are 1:48-1:50's guys.

In WSGTC 2, the GT-R was "superiour" - I drove a GT-R
In JGTS 1, the NSX was "superiour" - I drove a NSX
In JGTS 2, the HSV is "superiour" - drive a HSV
I never called the NSX superior. I did call it inferior (worse) though. ;)

I could pass NSX's at Monaco. :)
 
I know Dom.
It's more of a mis-fit, and I can agree about that.
But now, with 2,09, it should fit better I guess/hope. Would be great to not have 9 HSV's and 16 GT-R's in the next season.
 
In WSGTC 2, the GT-R was "superiour" - I drove a GT-R
In JGTS 1, the NSX was "superiour" - I drove a NSX
In JGTS 2, the HSV is "superiour" - drive a HSV

Excellent. This is very good information.

Next season I will just wait and see what car you pick, and then chose the same :sly:
 
I know Dom.
It's more of a mis-fit, and I can agree about that.
But now, with 2,09, it should fit better I guess/hope. Would be great to not have 9 HSV's and 16 GT-R's in the next season.

Its not a bad idea to when in doubt make the odd car a little better than the ones everybody picks.
 
Approaching 48.5's now, but I worry about the car's handling in the draft. That and it's a struggle getting a 48 within two laps. At this point, the D1 cutline's going to be around 49.5, or maybe even a 49 flat.
 
We run with tire wear set to "normal" right? I did the "break in / tune" runs last night with it set to normal.
 
Its not a bad idea to when in doubt make the odd car a little better than the ones everybody picks.

Thats a good idea
Pretty sure I did that with the Bandai, and nobody noticed except Nige.
Extra irony with it being put out of use now. :lol:
The Z was made to be second quickest overall, and I believe it is. The Z was made easier to drive at the new spec, while retaining all of it's power and usable powerband, while all others cars except the Bandai and Supra were cut in performance.
Supra next in line, shines in corners, dogs top end. Stability post 2.09 is astounding.
HSV, GT-R, SC430? Which track?

The difficulty in spec lies in tuning. If you test with relatively untuned cars, or race with them is less than what the car is capable of, it becomes a matter of either a: make it as fast as the field without tuning, but then a tuner picks it up and has the fastest car, or b: build it assuming someone has put time and effort into it like most of us do. (I'm not saying we always love our cars, but most of us go past a basic setup)
The SC430's spec being reduced both from WSGTC2 to Pure I, and from Pure I to Pure II is a shining example of how a car can be under-spec'd by needing a good tune.

Approaching 48.5's now, but I worry about the car's handling in the draft. That and it's a struggle getting a 48 within two laps. At this point, the D1 cutline's going to be around 49.5, or maybe even a 49 flat.
But you haven't been right about the D1 cutoff yet. :P
49.5 good sir đź‘Ť
 
Turns out I will not be able to race this Sunday. Will be getting home a little too late for green flag.

Please put me on the "will not race" list.
 
But you haven't been right about the D1 cutoff yet. :P
49.5 good sir đź‘Ť
I've always put a conservative number out there, as motivation for everyone to find that extra tenth. ;)

As for me, planning to Q first chance I get in the morning, then hope to do a few practice races.
 
Approaching 48.5's now, but I worry about the car's handling in the draft. That and it's a struggle getting a 48 within two laps. At this point, the D1 cutline's going to be around 49.5, or maybe even a 49 flat.

I think 49.5 is a good estimate, and if anything I think (hope) it will be a tad higher rather than lower come Sunday.
 
Well I don't think any of us will be able to predict the cut off this time. I sincerely believe this will be the hardest D1 to get into, until Suzuka of course :)
 
Wardez
Yeah the NSX is really fun now, it can totally be in the fold along with bringing back the other Supra. It would be a great field of cars for the next season.

I kinda like the idea of it being retired. Just wish gt5 had more up to date cars. Hopefully gt6 has an amazing amount of Super GT cars...

CSLACR
The difficulty in spec lies in tuning. If you test with relatively untuned cars, or race with them is less than what the car is capable of, it becomes a matter of either a: make it as fast as the field without tuning, but then a tuner picks it up and has the fastest car, or b: build it assuming someone has put time and effort into it like most of us do. (I'm not saying we always love our cars, but most of us go past a basic setup)
The SC430's spec being reduced both from WSGTC2 to Pure I, and from Pure I to Pure II is a shining example of how a car can be under-spec'd by needing a good tune

I like b. Even though I'm not a tuner, it rules out the possibility of someone owning because they can tune.
 
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Looking forward to track I know almost nothing about, racing wise. Then I'm relaxed at least...


(But, let me also reflect a little)
So, there’s no bonus point for fastest lap in D2 – oh, c’mon, sob-sob, there’s nothing left for me then :)

Well, ok, it wasn’t completely bad race for me… I mean 10 laps of it! Since I had pole it meant losing position just after start. But I did very well to be fast enough and positioned well on track so that only Simon managed to get ahead.
(Watching replay I must say that majority of D2 started very correctly, at the right point and speed – maybe only few drivers at the back that got stringed-out started slightly prematurely, no biggie at all đź‘Ť )
Got the lead back from Simon after very next eau rouge, did fastest lap of the race (:dopey:) and just kept the pack away. That’s only possible at Spa, everywhere else I would be miles behind Simon :) , but this was fun.

Well, then Johnkiller got into 2nd, broke away from that pack as well and got in my slip quite soon. It was painfully obvious how much time I’m losing to him in the last chicane (was mentioning that all week) + missed breaking to la source, and after eau rouge he was in front.

We kept increasing our distance from the rest and kept swaping positions for 4-5 laps. I just wish he was faster enough to pull away from me and liberate me from his draft though… Because very first time I went really pushing trough eau rouge in his draft (lap 10) I started making little mental images about what is different – and forgot to think about ONE thing that is always THE SAME – if you get onto rightside curb on exit you better give it your full attention or you might get launched all over the place. When I woke up to it I was already spinning… :dunce: I’m still such a beginner when it comes to these details, what fail, buuuuu, after that heart wasn’t 100% in it any more.

Anyway Johan, what were you doing in D2 man, next time stick to D1 where you belong, OK:)

I have learned another very important thing, I guess any new comer must drive a race or two before it sinks in – it’s that regular drivers do go beyond white line boundary on some occasions in somewhat intentional way. Mostly when in dirty air, lines get extended beyond bounds especially to make sure they don’t get into a spin or some other bigger problem.
That is perfectly logical to me, I don’t see any problem in that because that makes quite a lot sense.đź‘Ť
To bad I didn’t join you earlier, to learn this in time for “only track I’m any good at”...

And Johan I must say that driving closely to you felt incredibly safe and comfortable, it was a privilege and I only regret that my tragic lack of experience (or real racing instincts) ended this opportunity too soon. Looking forward to driving with you again, but not to see you in D2 again man :cool:

And… why won’t you guys award point for fastest D2 lap, ha? At least at Spa, you know:idea:
 
Nice report Fedro. đź‘Ť

Fastest lap can come either from D1 or D2.
So if you did a 2:13.6, you would've had that bonus. Did you? ;)
 
Of course NOT :) That is why I strictly emphasized "need" to diferentiate fastest lap from d1 and from d2. Kidding wise I said "at lest for this one race" hehehe 8-)
 
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