PURE | Mazdaspeed RX-7 Challenge | Series Champion: NEPALII

[Müle]

I've got a question for all of you.

A while back (before spec2 came out), I sent a paint chip to an alternate account so that whenever I wanted to use it, I could just dupe it from there, and send it back.

Fast forward to today, I want to get the chip back, so I logged on to the alternate account, went to receive the paint chip, and nothing happened.

Absolutely nothing. I hit ok, and nothing else popped up. I didn't get the chip, so I can't send it back.

So if anyone has "blu Cosmo Metallizzato" (yes, that one that I used all the time on my race cars) and can send it to me ASAP, that would be great.

 

[redreevos]

I've got a question for all of you.

A while back (before spec2 came out), I sent a paint chip to an alternate account so that whenever I wanted to use it, I could just dupe it from there, and send it back.

Fast forward to today, I want to get the chip back, so I logged on to the alternate account, went to receive the paint chip, and nothing happened.

Absolutely nothing. I hit ok, and nothing else popped up. I didn't get the chip, so I can't send it back.

So if anyone has "blu Cosmo Metallizzato" (yes, that one that I used all the time on my race cars) and can send it to me ASAP, that would be great.

Next time I am on, I will look for it. I feel like I have so many darn paints, I must have that one.

Edit- Sent you 2 of them.

 

[Müle]

You are awesome. Thanks man.

 

[redreevos]

I wasn't trying to block you at all.

You know, I'm almost certain that happened to me on the last stop. The car swerved for no apparent reason, one of my rears touched the grass and I got thrown out. Fortunately, I gathered it but still lost a fair bit of time.

Well you are faster with the wheel than me. Nice catch Outlaw. Before I even realized what was happening, I was playing in the beach.

You are awesome. Thanks man.

No problem Mule. Glad I could help.

 

[NEPALII]

Apparently you find funny pushing drivers out of the way...

 

[Müle]

You might not have been trying to block him, but you clearly cut across his nose going into the braking zone. You had already moved to the inside to keep him from trying to pass you, so cutting back across was your second move. If that had been anyone else other than Rees, you probably would have found yourself in the sand.

Not to mention the fact that you were on hards, and he was on mediums, you shouldn't have been trying to hold him (or Wardez for that matter) up in the first place

 

[NEPALII]

I was holding my line, nothing wrong with that. He should have done what Wardez did, and gone to the inside of me and pass me. Instead he just pushed me. If I can't hold a driver, then there is no point in starting on a different set of tires. I didnt cut across anyone. I was holding Wardez as well, and he never pushed me. He got by me clean, rees didn't and yet he has the nerve to point his finger at me. I get pushed and I'm the bad guy? pff...

 

[Müle]

Thanks to the trusty iPod, I got a recording of Rees' view of the incident. Brb YouTube.

 

[redreevos]

Apparently you find funny pushing drivers out of the way...

Yeah.. as everyone knows me. I am by far the dirtiest driver on GTPlanet.

It would be so much easier, and so much less drama, if when we speak of incidents we just speak the truth about what happened. To say you held your line is ridiculous. I am really getting tired of the drama created with how your stories go.

If you really want to discuss this incident. I am fine with that. Lets have the facts and then discuss what happened.

If you want to discuss the fact that you hit my car 2-4 other times in the race from behind, we can discuss that too. The fact that you make things into things they are not is very frustrating and overly dramatic. (WSGTC, no one around to qualify your Dad for 5 hours )

 

[Müle]

'sup

http://youtu.be/9Ylcu2QdJI4

This is basically how I see the whole thing:

-Rees got a run on Nepalli with the draft. Nepalii went to protect the inside line. That's fine.
-Rees goes back to the outside to take the normal line, however Nepalii suddenly cuts across the track, directly infront of Rees, right before the braking zone. I don't know why he did that, but that wasn't very cool.
-At this time, Nepalii hits the brakes a little bit early. Rees probably should have reacted quicker, but didn't, and the end result is Nepalii being pushed wide.

 

[NEPALII]

He hits me twice!! I move to the inside, and then I go a bit to the left again, but I make NO contact at all!! He is the one who makes the contact! He should have braked earlier as he had more speed than me. Instead, he used me to slow himself down as you can see on the video.

The reason why I let it pass, is because this happened so quick and maybe he didnt have time to brake in time. Now, what is making me over react is the fact that he's accusing me of dirty driving/blocking when it is evident I did no such thing as I didnt even touch him. He make the contact not me. Understand now? That's all.

 

[Müle]

I hold lines, you call them blocking.

But you didn't hold your line. That's the entire point. You were committed to the inside, and at the last minute, cross over to the outside.

 

[LancerEvo7]

That was braking really early for that corner. I'd have been suprised if Reevos had been expecting that.

 

[NEPALII]

I moved across to the left but there was no car there, I made no contact. So how is that dirty?! The problem could be I braked a little too early, but like I said I was on hards and tried to hold the car. It was too quick and rees hit me. Now, accusing me of blocking? WHY? There isnt any blocking.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

It's Tuesday and we're still arguing about this? I had worse things happen to me during that race, but I'm past that now. Just let it go, and move on. Otherwise, continue this through PM's.

Thanks. 👍

 

[NEPALII]

Just wanna finish saying I never brought it up in the first place, rees did. I over reacted at what rees said, when he said I blocked. That was not a block. It was just a sudden move but NO CONTACT was made, so nothing dirty. Im not angry at the fact that he hit me, because I know I braked too early as I was on hards. Just a racing incident.

Now I am done. 👍

 

[OwensRacing]

Me and the boy think it looked like a slight surge aka lag causing that bump.

Not typical of RedRevos aka Rees.

As well Nepal was well with his rights to move around like he did. Rules state you can move once after exit and once before entry. Which he did.

Looks like an accident between two fast guys. Don't let it get to you gentlemen. Your both rockets. Try being my speed and see how frustrated you get.

Love is the day. Be friendly and kind off track anyway. LoL


Also one of you top dogs wanna help me with a tune. I can get a car close. But never works likes you guys tunes. Sometimes I hit a home run. Sometimes it's just me. Getting help from the fast guys lets me focus on improving me and not blaming tunes.

Thanks.

 

[CSLACR]

Just wanna finish saying I never brought it up in the first place, rees did. I over reacted at what rees said, when he said I blocked. That was not a block. It was just a sudden move but NO CONTACT was made, so nothing dirty. Im not angry at the fact that he hit me, because I know I braked too early as I was on hards. Just a racing incident.

Now I am done. 👍

If swerving directly in front of an opponent with inches to spare at the last second where contact is imminent entering a corner while one car is very clearly going to be passed isn't blocking, I'd like to know what does count as illegal blocking?

 

[CodeRedR51]

It looked like a more gradual move to the left than a "swerve" to me.

Only thing I noticed from the replay was that Red didn't actually hit the brakes until after they made contact.

(no hard feelings here, just stating my observations)

 

[OwensRacing]

If swerving directly in front of an opponent with inches to spare at the last second where contact is imminent entering a corner while one car is very clearly going to be passed isn't blocking, I'd like to know what does count as illegal blocking?

If Rees went wide and then back inside and Nepal came back inside. That would be a block. While the move in question could be considered a block. I see it as a legal one. However getting bumped or pushed around doing this would be expected.

I'd say holding a guy up for more then a lap is grounds to getting moved out the way. One thing to race a guy, Whole nother thing to be on hards with fast med car coming. It's obvious your are out matched by the tire. Let the fast car by and draft in behind him. Hahah draft at Tsukuba.

It's racing and things do happen. Good to discuss and prevent future problems.

 

[Müle]

Yeah, there;s absolutely nothing wrong with talking about it, as long as we keep it civil.

 

[NEPALII]

If swerving directly in front of an opponent with inches to spare at the last second where contact is imminent entering a corner while one car is very clearly going to be passed isn't blocking, I'd like to know what does count as illegal blocking?

Explain to me how is this an illegal block. When I make my move, do I make contact with Rees? Mind you, I made ONE move which is legal. A move that resulted in NO contact. Also legal. The contact was later made by Rees. Nothing illegal.

Let's just move on into Daytona and put this behind us. Nobody is at fault here, it's a racing incident. It can happen with anyone. Looking forward to Daytona, me and RT separated by 2 points.

 

[CSLACR]

If Rees went wide and then back inside and Nepal came back inside. That would be a block. While the move in question could be considered a block. I see it as a legal one. However getting bumped or pushed around doing this would be expected.

I'd say holding a guy up for more then a lap is grounds to getting moved out the way. One thing to race a guy, Whole nother thing to be on hards with fast med car coming. It's obvious your are out matched by the tire. Let the fast car by and draft in behind him. Hahah draft at Tsukuba.

It's racing and things do happen. Good to discuss and prevent future problems.

2 moves, first off, but the amount of moves is not the only thing that determines blocking.

Explain to me how is this an illegal block. When I make my move, do I make contact with Rees? Mind you, I made ONE move which is legal. A move that resulted in NO contact. Also legal. The contact was later made by Rees. Nothing illegal.

Let's just move on into Daytona and put this behind us. Nobody is at fault here, it's a racing incident. It can happen with anyone. Looking forward to Daytona, me and RT separated by 2 points.

If we're all disagreed, I fail to see why we would want to sweep this under the rug.

Now, watching this, I would say Nepalli can expect to be rear-ended doing this 10 times out of 10. It seems we're all pretty agreed it's a very likely possibility.
If you steer your car in any manner, quickly or slowly into the path of an approaching car with such a high probability of impact, in a manner which defends your position by literally, physically blocking (obstructing) the other cars path, how is that not blocking?

By this logic, if we're going down the final straight at Monza, a leader may steer directly into the path of a passing car attempting to win. Just like that, get rear-ended for a safe and secure win.

I'm not saying Nepalii deserves caned, just that this is about as clear cut as blocking can be, without simply doing it for a longer period of time.
I'm really confused where this "more then a lap" bit comes in too. There is no rule I've read that says a "slower" car must yield, after any time period to another car. (not lapped cars, cars racing for position)
Holding your racing line and making it hard to pass is quite different from the scenario we have here. This is changing line quickly and closely enough that a collision was imminent.

 

[dsgerbc]

OLR Quote:

As they approach the next corner, they can return to the racing line of their choice However, they're not allowed to change their line when the behind driver is directly behind and changes his line to try and make a pass. If your movement causes an accident, you're responsible.

 

[Denilson]

Yea, there's no doubt it's a case of blocking..

one move.. When you exit the right hander, you're left.. moving over to the right..
You can change your line one more time, to position yourself for the next corner.. But you can not change position when... *read above quote from dsgerbc*

Sorry NEPALII.

 

[redreevos]

Sorry guys.. I didn't mean to take over this forum with this. But I just wanted to respond to Nepalii calling me out in the racing lounge right after the race.

Then to mis-represent what happened, and now saying that I am the one that brought it up. I am just tired of all the falseness in his statements.

I do everything I can to avoid contact in races. I am not saying I never make mistakes, we all do. There was contact, absolutely. But to act so surprised that it happened when you cut right in front of a much faster car and then brake early, is strange to me.

Should I also bring up the fact you hit me 2-4 times during the race that were completely your fault. I just think if you stick to facts, there won't be so many pages wasted in the forums, and so many people involved in your drama.

I am sorry to the rest of you this came into the forums. I just felt he called me out in public in the racing lobby, and I wanted to respond publicly as to my actions.

So, please, if you want to call me out in the future Nepalii, try a PM first. Then I will respond in a PM. Thank you.

 

[BrosifDuder]

Thank you to everyone for the last dozen or so posts. It has reminded me of one of my favorite races in F1 history, the 2005 Turkish Grand Prix. Everything seemed to go the way I wanted it to go; Kimi won, Schumacher parked it in the pits, and Montoya made a stupid mistake in the closing laps that had me laughing for days:

check out 7:18...



Hahahahahaha, Montoya is so fat.

 

[Denilson]

Well, for what it's worth, I would never doubt your clean driving Rees.. You're a true ambassador for clean driving and sportmanship! 👍

But, to discuss what's concidered a block and what is not can still be debated imo. All we need to do is to leave this specific incident and discuss in general from now on.. Cause this needs straightening out.


BrosifDuder: Awesome video!!

 

[NEPALII]

Sorry guys.. I didn't mean to take over this forum with this. But I just wanted to respond to Nepalii calling me out in the racing lounge right after the race.

Then to mis-represent what happened, and now saying that I am the one that brought it up. I am just tired of all the falseness in his statements.

I do everything I can to avoid contact in races. I am not saying I never make mistakes, we all do. There was contact, absolutely. But to act so surprised that it happened when you cut right in front of a much faster car and then brake early, is strange to me.

Should I also bring up the fact you hit me 2-4 times during the race that were completely your fault. I just think if you stick to facts, there won't be so many pages wasted in the forums, and so many people involved in your drama.

I am sorry to the rest of you this came into the forums. I just felt he called me out in public in the racing lobby, and I wanted to respond publicly as to my actions.

So, please, if you want to call me out in the future Nepalii, try a PM first. Then I will respond in a PM. Thank you.

Hey, I never had intention of offending you personally, and I believe I never attacked you personally. If I did, sorry. As for the incident, I just shared my view on this as you know. I'm not saying it's not my mistake, because it is as well. But you made the contact and that just pissed me off. Then I found out it was also my fault as well. This wouldn't be professional racing without some drama. I actually like it as we can share our views of racing rules, etc... while keeping it civil(which I believe we did).

I called you out, but I wasnt fussed over it, remember? I asked for no penalty for you or anything. I just mentioned the mistake you made in hitting me that then I found out was also mine as well for braking that early. This in my opinion, is a racing incident and not something done on purpose. Not dirty or anything. Things happen. I believe Mule hit Wardez on the race. But race incident. Then I got fussed over it when this got "expanded" to the forum if you know what I mean. That's where I got mad. If I had ended up on the grass or something, then you would see me in "rage" mode. The video also shows how crappy GT5 is. That little bump from you, in real life, would never make my car move that much forward. Thanks a lot GT5.

I'm starting to get my PC ready for sim racing and take a break from GT5 so things like this can be avoided. I hope I have clarified on my view on this.

I guess we can be even on this one, and just move on. 👍 Now onto another subject, anyone got any practice at Daytona? Any lap times?

 

[carracerptp]

I will hopefully qualify high enough to get a spot in the Daytona race.
And Suzuka.