Pushrod Supercar...I love it.

[PS]

Hmm funny I know 2 that race them...in fact one is 58 and the other is 64. Both in SCCA, both Z06's have full cages, fully stripped, and one is a C5 while the other is a C6. Granted they both work for General Motors, but they still do it.

There will be many people who will buy the car strictly for racing, in fact a good deal of them will be SCCA teams.

That means nothing, you work at GM or a manufacruing plant or something. It's like me working at a Lamborghini dealership and going "Lamborghini's rare?! Pfft, puh-lease, I see 10 of them every day!"

 

[Joey D]

Oh I was replying to PS's comment, but ya I wouldn't race one in the UK either after seeing that price.

 

[Joey D]

That means nothing, you work at GM or a manufacruing plant or something. It's like me working at a Lamborghini dealership and going "Lamborghini's rare?! Pfft, puh-lease, I see 10 of them every day!"

No that means everything...you said "I think to many 55 year old will be racing their cars" I told you two of them that I know. I don't care where they work. I'm sure if they worked for Chysler they would race Vipers.

 

[Driftster]

well...When I see a new z06..I'll let EVERYONE know.....so..Expect to hear back from me once I attend the Barret Jackson next year..

 

[JCE]

Car and Driver ran 11.7@125mph........0-60 in 3.6sec........98g on skidpad.
0-100 in 7.9 sec..... 0-150 in about 18 sec.

Holy **** on a stick...0-150 in UNDER TWENTY SECONDS?!

Here's a comparo of the Zonda, Enzo, and the Z06:

0-60 Z06 = 3.6/3.7 sec
0-60 Zonda = 3.6/3.7 sec
0-60 Enzo (for perspective) = 3.4 sec

0-100 Z06 = 7.9 sec
0-100 Zonda = 7.4 sec
0-100 Enzo (for perspective) = 7.0 sec

Ummm...I love the Zonda more than almost anything but Jesus tap-dacing Christ the Z06 is insanely fast! I'd still rather own a Carrera GT or Zonda but the Z06 should be respected and put in this class of supercars bar none.

 

[Joey D]

I can attest to the fact that it is "Jesus tap-dancing Christ" fast. I have a hard time NOT speeding in the damn thing when I drive it. But hey it's got M plates and no cop in Michigan would pull over a M plated car.

 

[fangorn_forest]

Now we need lap times.

There will be someone somewhere thinking, a modded SRT-4 could whoop this, and any Ferrar. Yeah right.

Can't say I liked all the article, it didn't seem to know much about European sportscars, ye made sweeping generalisations of them that are frankly, untrue. The bits where he didn't pretend to know what European sporstcars were wasn't bad though.

Quite funny you mention the SRT4. My buddies SRT4 just ran an 11.7@124 last night, at about 6,000ft in elevation. Under optimal conditions at sea level the car should run low 11s. Also keep in mind this car is street legal and even daily driven. He has less than $25,000 into the car, including the cost of the car brand new and all mods. He did all of the work by himself to save cash. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but do some research on the cars your talking about before posting.

Edit: Oops, I just realized I had the same sentence in there twice.

 

[Drift260Z]

Quite funny you mention the SRT4. My buddies SRT4 just ran an 11.7@124 last night, at about 6,000ft in elevation. Under optimal conditions at sea level the car should run low 11s. Also keep in mind this car is street legal and even daily driven. He has less than $25,000 into the car, including the cost of the car brand new and all mods. Also keep in mind this car is steet legal and even daily driven. He did all of the work by himself to save cash. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but do some research on the cars your talking about before posting.

noticed he said "we need some lap times". I don't think he is talking about drag racing, he means on a track. you know....with left and right turns. I think he would have a hard time beating the Z06 on a proper track. sorry, but I'm not the biggest fan of drag racing.







rock.

 

[niky]

Typo on the Vette... should read £55,000, not £550,000.

Damn, you guys got taxes... But for us, that Chrysler is $44,500++ or £24,000++ for the V6 version... which is how much a BMW 3-series USED to cost... I suppose it would cost about £35,000 for the V8 if they ever brought it here. Most European cars here cost a couple of kidneys.

Most people here can't afford anything over £10,000, as that's equal to about five year's salary for most office workers, and about ten years or more for blue-collar workers.

My uncle just bought an XJR for about £87,500+... how bad is that?

And I think live4speed is right about racing the thing... the only ones besides Americans who will be racing them are the couple of dozen German guys who will definitely buy it. The Brits already have a "cheap" supercar with the Tuscan.

I agree about the interiors, too... after seeing the C5's and not being impressed (the outside is gorgeous, though) and with the C6's looking not much better in pics (and what's up with that fugly steering wheel!), I don't think people will be buying them for the luxury, either.

 

[JNasty4G63]

Sounds good, Eagle Talon's arn't that heavy either are they?

Well, yea, kind of. Mine is AWD, so that adds a good chunk to the weight. Stock, a 2G AWD DSM is about 3300lbs. But, I've taken just about everything out of the back, its got lighter non-leather seats, no jack, yada yada. But, then the cage adds a bit back. Last I figured, I was about 3150 or so. So, not heavy really, but surely not light. But, as I said, with 550hp or so, it will move just fine.

Nice DSM,... errh, Eagle, Nasty... impressed!

Well, the Eagle Talon was a DSM, so you can and should call it that. And, thanks. Its not driven much anymore, because of the gas prices. Way over $3/gal and a car that gets like >10mpg don't make much sense. Its a weekend fun car now. I drive my Rubi full time now.

Hilg

 

[csmaster09]

Wait. So TVR's, Elises, and whatever cars you guys like can have a crappy interior, but not the C6, which btw isn't that bad. Hell, it's actually rather nice inside. Am i missing something here?

 

[niky]

Well, considering it costs nearly twice as much as TVRs with comparable performance when you factor in taxes over there... yes, it's a problem... The Corvette is only "cheap" (or not supercar priced) for Americans. Everyone else gets it at almost the same price as other "exotics".

 

[PS]

No that means everything...you said "I think to many 55 year old will be racing their cars" I told you two of them that I know. I don't care where they work. I'm sure if they worked for Chysler they would race Vipers.

Riiight. Well, I'll just leave you to that then. . .

 

[Revheadnz]

I'm not trying to start anything, and I also know that magzines often claim some fairly astronomically quick times but wow, that seems freakishly fast for a 505hp, rear wheel drive, 1450kg supercar. I can expect a Pagani Zonda doing 0-100kph in 3.7 but that has 50hp on the Vette, weighs 150kg less and has the extra traction provided by the mid engined layout. I could expect a flat 4 second run, maybe, but to claim 3.7 is just pushing it.

Please note that this is not a rant about the Corvette, which as it stands is an utterly awesome car, but a complaint about the acceleration times provided by the magazine. I'm sure the Z06 could well hold its own on a track, I've read independant opinions of the Z06 as a track car so I'm not doubting that. I'm just going to wait for an Evo test of this car.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Europe is getting a better equivelant to this machine according to my sources. The audi lemans concept also known as the R9 is going to have a 450+hp lambo engine weight next to nothing and come in priced at about 45 grand.

Say goodnight Z06.

 

[Young_Warrior]

C6 Z06 Road Test.

C6 Z06 Corvette

Motor Trend ran 11.5@127.1mph........ 0-60 in 3.7sec.... 1.02g on skidpad.

Car and Driver ran 11.7@125mph........0-60 in 3.6sec........98g on skidpad.
0-100 in 7.9 sec..... 0-150 in about 18 sec.

Yeah, it really is that good.

Freaking awesome.

Ewwwwww car and driver thats possible the worst car mag to qoute ever.
I think those times are a little OTT id say more around 4 secs for the 0-60 dash.
I too am going to weight for a european test publication before I take it has bible word.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Why does everyone knock the interior on the car? If you buy a Z06, you are buying it for the massive amounts of power and track ability. If you want a luxery Corvette you need to go buy an XLR.

You don't need an expensive interior on a car like that, and think about it many people who buy the car are going to race it...which means they will take things out of the interior. But I've driven a Z06 several times and I don't really have a problem with the interior. Sure it's not steller in anyways, but it's by no means bad.

Ye but then why get a Z06 when you could get like a kit car which will out handle any supercar and outaccelerate any supercar for less than a z06.

 

[niky]

Ewwwwww car and driver thats possible the worst car mag to qoute ever.
I think those times are a little OTT id say more around 4 secs for the 0-60 dash.
I too am going to weight for a european test publication before I take it has bible word.

Here we go again with the C&D bashing... take note that the other time is Motor Trend, which generally gets a couple of tenths lower than C&D. And a lot of those British "kit" cars get sub-4 times with less horsepower and just a bit less weight, so it's entirely believeable. Power-to-Weight isn't the only limiting factor in terms of acceleration times, those big old Americans have softer suspension settings (better squat) and wider rear tires than some of the 'exotics', which generally give a better showing at the 1320 than more stiffly sprung street racers. (oops, I am going to get flamed for that... )

 

[ExigeEvan]

those big old Americans have softer suspension settings (better squat) and wider rear tires than some of the 'exotics', which generally give a better showing at the 1320 than more stiffly sprung street racers. (oops, I am going to get flamed for that... )

Yeah but those 'street racers' can take the twisties.

Wait. So TVR's, Elises, and whatever cars you guys like can have a crappy interior, but not the C6, which btw isn't that bad. Hell, it's actually rather nice inside. Am i missing something here?

The TVRs it's common knowledge and few deny it. But again, there's the price aswell.
The Elise is stripped dpown generally, not just bad build quality.

And also you seem to think we want luxury... We don't. But for the price of the car we want a decent interior. We don't want a luxury interior on a cheap Renault, but we want a decent one.

 

[iceburns288]

Yeah but those 'street racers' can take the twisties.

So can a Z06... it's entirely capable of taking turns well and it does...

 

[Young_Warrior]

So can a Z06... it's entirely capable of taking turns well and it does...

Better than a M3?...............not quiet.
And who said anything about british kit cars im talking about them all in general. Like the 640hpchevy engined monster I think which is called the ultima or something like that.

 

[skip0110]

Better than a M3?...............not quiet.
And who said anything about british kit cars im talking about them all in general. Like the 640hpchevy engined monster I think which is called the ultima or something like that.

A kit car is not a road car. No warranty, no A/C, no OnStar, no stereo, no leather seats, basically just "here's a box of parts". You could easily drive the Vette every day to work if it's not snowing or raining. Whereas the Ultima GTR would be pure punishment on the street.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Doonkenvoort is a everyday drivers car I belief.

According to GTP member any supercar that has A/C is not a supercar yet GTP members also like to call the Z06 a supercar.

 

[skip0110]

I believe what was being said is that the Z06 is by design not really a supercar, yet for a fraction of the price it can tear many so called supercars a new one.

 

[Joey D]

Ye but then why get a Z06 when you could get like a kit car which will out handle any supercar and outaccelerate any supercar for less than a z06.

Because kit cars are a bastard to get insured in Michigan at least.

Better than a M3?...............not quiet.
And who said anything about british kit cars im talking about them all in general. Like the 640hpchevy engined monster I think which is called the ultima or something like that.

I would wager it's better then an M3, BMW's are not gods. And the Blue Devil is what you are refering to, basically a C6R for the road.

And I can vouch that the Z06 will get up to 60 in under 4 seconds, I can get it in about 4 but then again I'm not that experienced of a driver.

 

[Dave A]

Wait. So TVR's, Elises, and whatever cars you guys like can have a crappy interior, but not the C6, which btw isn't that bad. Hell, it's actually rather nice inside. Am i missing something here?

TVR's have rather nice hand made interiors, however they are also over 10 grand less than the base C6 over here for a comparable model. The build quality of the interiors leaves something to be desired in some examples but the quality of the materials as high and the design is good. An Elise is not a valid comparison, the Elise certainly isn't a crap interior, just a bare one, it's built with weight in mind and doesn't feature much of a center console. Again, an Elise is a lot cheaper than any C6 Vette, an Exige S2 is twenty five grand less than the C6 cabriolet. So, I point you to my comment, "For it's price in the US though, the fact it has a super crap interior is justifiable, but for £55k like it's priced over here for the base C6 it's not".

 

[Dave A]

Quite funny you mention the SRT4. My buddies SRT4 just ran an 11.7@124 last night, at about 6,000ft in elevation. Under optimal conditions at sea level the car should run low 11s. Also keep in mind this car is street legal and even daily driven. He has less than $25,000 into the car, including the cost of the car brand new and all mods. Also keep in mind this car is steet legal and even daily driven. He did all of the work by himself to save cash. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but do some research on the cars your talking about before posting.

Tbh I couldn't give a rats a55 if it ran a sub 10 second 1/4 mile, I've seen FWD cars do that, but like I've said before I'm talking about peformance in general not just straight line acceleration. I can make a Yugo do the quarter in 11 seconds, whoopie ****ing do. I don't care much for drag times, can you tell.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Drag times are stupid. I would never buy a car on the basis of its drag times because then I would just get a drag car.

 

[Young_Warrior]

I would wager it's better then an M3, BMW's are not gods. And the Blue Devil is what you are refering to, basically a C6R for the road.

And I can vouch that the Z06 will get up to 60 in under 4 seconds, I can get it in about 4 but then again I'm not that experienced of a driver.

No im not talking about any blue devil and Id wager its not better than a M3. M3 is a saloon god, well untill the RS4 came along but if im not mistaken the M3 csl posted a faster time round the ring than the Z06.

 

[Jacks]

No im not talking about any blue devil and Id wager its not better than a M3. M3 is a saloon god, well untill the RS4 came along but if im not mistaken the M3 csl posted a faster time round the ring than the Z06.

The Z06 hasn't officially released a ring time but it has been said that it has lapped it in under 8 minutes, i don't know how long M3 CSL did it in but i doubt it was that quick.

EDIT: Ok scrap that the M3 CSL lapped the ring in 7 minutes 50. i guess we'll have to wait and see what the Z06's lap time is when it's released.