Pushrod Supercar...I love it.

[Driftster]

c5 was cheaper though..... 💡

 

[Dave A]

It's a whole lot better than the C5's interior was.

It stil costsl a **** load more than cars with similar performance that have nice interiors.

 

[Joey D]

The interior still isn't that bad, will you people please drop it? You know what that motor alone cost to develop? While I don't know the exact figure...it was pricey as all hell. In order to keep costs down the just didn't put an XLR type interior in the car.

 

[Dave A]

The interior is okay for the price it's sold at in the US, I keep saying that. Someone keeps trying to say that it's good everywhere, if it cost the same as the US everywhere then sure, I'd agree but it doesn't.

 

[PS]

So yeah, it's faster than an M3, and then some.

Yah...those 2 cars were never meant to compete. One's a sports car, the other is a sport-luxury sedan. Their purposes aren't the same. And one has a I6, the other has a V8. Besides, the Z06 interior doens't even ocmpare to that of an M3. Plus it has like 1/2 the safety features, so whatever.

 

[Dave A]

The M3 is cheaper than the Z06 will be, it's the same price as the C6 Cabriolet. Between the M3 and the Vette it depends more on what you want from your car.

 

[Onikaze]

I was just addressing that someone brought up the M3 CSL's 7'58 or so Ring time, personally, I love BMW's to death, I own an old one matter of fact, but you are right, they are aiming at different goals...but, uh...there hasn't been an M3 Sedan in the E46 Generation last I checked...if there has, it's been kept a good secret in the states...the M3 and M3 CSL out now are Coupes, and arguably sports cars, with grand touring aspirations.

I keep hearing that the 7'59 time was for a C6 Z51, that the 7'43 was for a C6 Z06, and that there are no running blue devil prototypes that they would even reveal in public, much less admit too.

They have said directly though that the Z06 was the blue car that did the 7'43.

The Author of that one article was just stating stuff he had picked up other places, true, and as for the "only one production car has ran better than a 7'40" can you blame him really?

The Carrera GT's time is well known...what other cars can you think of that have gotten close too it?

 

[Joey D]

There is nothing offical from GM as of yet so I really don't know what to tell you.

 

[Dave A]

Neither myself nor Blazin (who works on the Vette for GM) have heard Cheverolet say that the blue car that ran the 7'43 is a Z06, bear in mind the Blue Devil prototype looks like a Z06, it's has all the same body panels and even has the Z06 markings on it.

And yes I can blame an author making such a big mistake as that, it's been common knowledge for a long time about a few cars unning faster laps, the Koenigsegg CCR andDonkervoort DRS not counting due to the timing of their laps, theres still a few including the Merc SLR that was faster yet he also claims this time was faster than the SLR, again untrue.

A couple of other cars that beat 7'43 include but are not limited to, the Mosler MT900S Photon and a stock Porsche GT3 RS on the Pirelli's.

 

[Young_Warrior]

I heard it was the blue devil that ran 7 43. I want to know what the B7 audi RS4 ran. Should surely be nearly as quick as a M3 CSL.

 

[Joey D]

The Blue Devil is a myth...sorta....its more of a concept that is more then likely going to end up a production limited run car. They had the car in Germany, but nothing said they were on the Ring. I will let you know when I know.

 

[Omnis]

The room in the C6 sucks. It's so slender...it like crushes my nuts when i have to put my legs that close together.

 

[Driftster]

much like the elise..

 

[McLaren'sAngel]

Hiya! Meow! (='.'=)

I personally think that the C6 Z06 is an amazing car for its price! Is there an official date when the C6 Z06 will come out?

 

[Joey D]

The Z06 is offically for sale in the United States. You have to wait though, there is a long list.

 

[niky]

So...From what i've learned..

-z06 = very fast
-z06 = bargain(in the US of A)
-z06 = espensive azz **** elsehwere(value in question)...

Alright!...and there you have it!....

Chevy's the wal-mart of american supercars...

Oh God, that's going to haunt you for years to come.

The interior still isn't that bad, will you people please drop it? You know what that motor alone cost to develop? While I don't know the exact figure...it was pricey as all hell. In order to keep costs down the just didn't put an XLR type interior in the car.

Sorry, dude... just tell your bosses to put in a nicer steering wheel and we'll forget about the rest... ...that said, I respect the rest of the car, and to own a Corvette out here is just about as exclusive as owning a Porsche or a Ferrari (Anyone here who can afford one can just as well afford the other, seeing as they're too expensive for anyone else)... that's why some of us are whining about it, because to Americans Corvettes are affordable supercars, to everyone else, they're exotics.

It's something that GM doesn't really cash in on, and I think just a little extra spent in trimming would boost sales in markets where the Corvette is already expensive... You dont need the XLRv to sell expensive sports cars, the 'Vette is sexy enough, or could be... I know you personally don't make those decisions, but it would be nice.

I've only seen one late-model Z06 here, and it has way more presence than the (common) Porsches and BMWs on the road.

 

[Joey D]

A little secert that I'm will to let you in on is that the XLR's Northstar was actually more powerful the C6, GM dumbed the motor down so the Vette would be the fastest. The XLR-V is right up there with the Z06 preformance, but I haven't driven one yet.

 

[niky]

Don't want to show up their premiere sports engine, huh? ...figures.

 

[Driftster]

Isn't the XLR on the vette chassis?

Nice.....

I want to see those 2 go head to head..

 

[iceburns288]

Don't want to show up their premiere sports engine, huh? ...figures.

It's actually really, really common, but people don't seem to notice. The same applies to the Cayman/Boxster and 911, actually...

 

[Joey D]

A show down between an unrestricted XLR-V and a Z06 would indeed make my pants happy.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Add a sl65amg and bimma M6 to that showdown.

 

[Joey D]

Why? There is no reason to add them. The Z06 and the XLR-V are on the same platfrom with different yet very simliar engines. I would be curious to see what one would do better. I'm willing to guess the Z06 would be better then the XLR-V though, unless the un-dumbed the XLR-V.

 

[niky]

Isn't the XLRv much heavier?

 

[Young_Warrior]

Why? There is no reason to add them. The Z06 and the XLR-V are on the same platfrom with different yet very simliar engines. I would be curious to see what one would do better. I'm willing to guess the Z06 would be better then the XLR-V though, unless the un-dumbed the XLR-V.

Because with those 4 cars it would be even more interesting as they all are in the same category I belief.

 

[Joey D]

The XLR-V weighs in at about 3600 pounds and the Z06 weighs 3,130 pounds so yes the XLR-V does weigh more but then again you get a "nicer interior" with the XLR-V amoung other things.

Because with those 4 cars it would be even more interesting as they all are in the same category I belief.

I'm not talking about a comparison like that, I want to see two cars with the same platform go head to head.

 

[Driftster]

Because then the vette can say it trumped the M6 head to head instead of # to #.....

But then again, the bimmer crowd will go "Aww but the M6 has better interior and more trunk/boot space...We win"

God I love predictability.
So Blazin, do you know what the specs on that northstar engine are/could be?

And by dumbed down do you mean just heavily restricted, or they are litterally removing/changing things to lower it's output..

 

[Joey D]

The XLR-V's factory specs are still sort of under wraps however I know a little bit: But its going to use a supercharged 4.4L that will put out 440hp. Which is just drop dead sexy. Also the 4.4L V8 will be one of the highest out put engines in the world when the XLR-V goes on sale. You also have to remember that it is a hardtop convertable as well which adds weight. I have not heard anything about a non convertable one just yet.

The XLR comes with a 4.6L V8 putting out 320hp at I think 6400rpm and 310lb ft at 4500rpms. It would have been up in the 400's but GM just messed with the computer to dumb it down. Give it a few more months, I'm sure you will see a computer upgrade for the car.

 

[Onikaze]

the Northstar is ok...but I've got a soft spot for the small size of an OHV engine.


Hell, you could fit an LS7 in an FD RX-7...maybe even a Miata...

As for the Ring times.

I've seen several different sources say that a C6 with the Z51 package ran a 7'59.

Considering the better Aero, greatly superior Power to Weight Ratio, better suspension tuning, lighter weight, and all the rest...I'd expect the C6 Z06 to be running a 7'40 something.

Then you have the fact that a blue car looking for all intents and purposes like a C6 Z06 ran a 7'43, and that it would be pretty sad if the 600 Hp, probably sub 3000 Lb Blue Devil only ran a 7'43...and that it would bump the C6 Z06 time closer to a normal C6 Z51, which I just don't see happening.

I have yet to see a time for a Merc SLR around the Ring, but I'd expect it to be right about the C6 Z06's time, or vice versa.

 

[Dave A]

The Merc SLR is a faster car than the Z06. Probably only slightly faster round your average track, it has ran a 7'40 at the ring and I recall seeing a time in the high 1'30's but for now I'll stick to the 1'40 because I can't remember where I saw the other time.