Quantum Leap?

[nasanu]

I really hope you are joking by making a play on words...

Though I see what you getting at, I think your need to appear clever is clouding your judgement. The term quantum leap is generally used to indicate a big change. Or, indeed as the dictionary indicates...

Quantum leap as commonly used is a bastardization of the term quantum and should not be used by anyone. It was coined by people who clearly did not understand Max Planck's work on quanta and used it to describe things entirely unrelated. Simply because a lot of people make the mistake often enough for it to be commonly accepted does not mean it is correct or acceptable.

Dictionaries, especially online dictionaries competing for hits are not guardians of languages but are a reflection of them. Words get added or deleted as their usage levels rise and fall. Whether a term is correct or makes any logical sense makes no difference and thus you can not use a dictionary definition to prove your point.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Do you really think paying 100 euros of DLC is the solution?

I'd rather have the option to pick and choose DLC for $$$ then get very little DLC with very little I'm interested in for free. IIRC the three tracks were free including the best version of the Nurb and all its variations.

 

[TheProRacer]

We will see the quantum 'leap' when Gran Turismo 12 hits the market in mid 2080.

 

[SSQES]

I'd rather have the option to pick and choose DLC for $$$ then get very little DLC with very little I'm interested in for free. IIRC the three tracks were free including the best version of the Nurb and all its variations.

Forza's DLC are really nice, but it's really too much money to pay.
And I imagine the same kind of DLC in GT (for the same price)... Some people consider that PD only care about money (with every update/DLC free), imagine now 100 euros of DLC added lol

 

[mister dog]

When, if at all, will we see the "Quantum Leap" in DLC?

https://www.gtplanet.net/sony-plans-for-quantum-leap-with-gran-turismo-6-dlc/

When pigs fly.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Words...

Yeah... I don't much want to get into an argument about the etymology of the word quantum (though I guess it's a derivation of a word that existed long before Planck), but I really think trying to ignore the fact that the phrase "quantum leap" is taken to mean a significant jump, and has done for nearly a century, by most of the English speaking world, kind of out weighs your observation that that the words "quantum" + "leap" might indicate something else.

I guess your dislike for dictionaries explains the multiple spelling errors within the introduction paragraph of your own website. For a dude that says he is a programmer, and obviously believes himself to be an expert on the English language (and the much more interesting field of Physics), that's pretty slack.

Anyway, 'tis is a silly argument.

Click.

 

[sirjim73]

I think we would only really see a quantum leap if Scott Bakula got talked into doing a follow up (maybe with Mr Bakula in the senior role now and the inevitable teen playing the Sam Beckett role because everything has to have a teen prequel reboot these days...

On topic, I think we may still get dlc changes in 2015, it feels to me as though 2014 is a gap year mainly for completion of the game and that anything major not announced at release, well in my opinion they won't have time to look at that until next year. Or not at all depending on whether anyone buys the first dlc.

I hope this thread doesn't get "lost in its own lifetime..."

 

[vasiliflame]

I thought this was about the tv show I expected this.

If this was kaz the gas would be his ego

 

[Johnnypenso]

Forza's DLC are really nice, but it's really too much money to pay.
And I imagine the same kind of DLC in GT (for the same price)... Some people consider that PD only care about money (with every update/DLC free), imagine now 100 euros of DLC added lol

Fair enough, but at least you'd have a choice to make among several packs of high quality content which is my point. I fully expected this "Quantum Leap" in DLC to be mostly pay as you go and only the VGT and Senna content free. Its unrealistic to expect a steady stream of free, high quality, relevant content.

 

[mr_lab_rat]

so far it's been "Quantum heap" (of crap)

 

[SSQES]

Fair enough, but at least you'd have a choice to make among several packs of high quality content which is my point. I fully expected this "Quantum Leap" in DLC to be mostly pay as you go and only the VGT and Senna content free. Its unrealistic to expect a steady stream of free, high quality, relevant content.

You have a point too, I wouldn't mind paying for like 3-4 Cars/Tracks pack, but I don't want to see PD doing the same as Microsoft (20% of free DLC)

so far it's been "Quantum heap" (of crap)

Disapointing maybe, but definitly not crap.

 

[TokoTurismo]

If the track Creator does not get released for gt6. I am done with PD

I already given up.

 

[Johnnypenso]

You have a point too, I wouldn't mind paying for like 3-4 Cars/Tracks pack, but I don't want to see PD doing the same as Microsoft (20% of free DLC)

So if I understand you correctly, you'd rather have 10 free cars, of which 6 or 7 are real cars and no tracks vs. 3 real tracks including a fully laser scanned Nurburgring and 20% of 100 cars free and an option to buy the other 80?

You realize PD hasn't stopped modelling cars right? By their own numbers they probably have a dozen or so sitting in the can right now. They had 100+ ready to go for GT6 at launch. Wouldn't you rather have the option to either pay for at least some of those 100 cars as DLC during the lifetime of GT5? or waiting for the launch of GT6 to get them all for one price with the game?

 

[SSQES]

So if I understand you correctly, you'd rather have 10 free cars, of which 6 or 7 are real cars and no tracks vs. 3 real tracks including a fully laser scanned Nurburgring and 20% of 100 cars free and an option to buy the other 80?

Ofc I would like to have free tracks and 100+ cars added, but not if I have to pay for 80 of them. I think paid DLC shouldn't be more than 50% of the number of DLC

 

[PaulGrey]

Can't really complain yet since we haven't been charged for any of the new content we've already received. I think they're "working on it."

The problem with those cars are that they were one use cars. Maybe used in a seasonal and then forgotten. They are just trophy's with no real use. If I can't paint, tune or change wheels on them then they just collect virtual dust in my garage. Give me something that I can use all the time. I like the new M4 but, I don't drive it because it looks like a 4x4 with a lift kit on it. Let me paint it, lower it and put an adjustable transmission in it and I would use it all the time, until then it just sits in the garage. Free or not the cars we were given have no practical use in GT6. ex, M4, Hudson, FT-1....

 

[Conquerer]

PD simply can't deliver DLC. They take way too much time to create things (cars, tracks, track creator etc.). Hell, they can't even deliver a full game without missing features anymore. There is no quantum leap and Gran Turismo is as stale as it ever has been. Congratulations, PD.

 

[sircarltonlotus]

@Johnnypenso, I'm interested to know, how many cars have been added to fm5? How many of that figure were in fm4? And finally why do you keep harping on about this "laser scanned, best ever nurburgring" is it because as pretty much every fm fan now concedes, the nurb on fm4 was dreadful? Why are you sooooo keen to get one up on gt all the time?

 

[fortbo]

@Johnnypenso, I'm interested to know, how many cars have been added to fm5? How many of that figure were in fm4? And finally why do you keep harping on about this "laser scanned, best ever nurburgring" is it because as pretty much every fm fan now concedes, the nurb on fm4 was dreadful? Why are you sooooo keen to get one up on gt all the time?

He is just stating facts.

 

[p3bucky]

@Johnnypenso, I'm interested to know, how many cars have been added to fm5? How many of that figure were in fm4? And finally why do you keep harping on about this "laser scanned, best ever nurburgring" is it because as pretty much every fm fan now concedes, the nurb on fm4 was dreadful? Why are you sooooo keen to get one up on gt all the time?

I'm sorry, but the Forza 5 Nurburgring is beautiful.... It makes the GT6 one look like GT's Suzuki Alto Works....

I voted for the last option "it's not, plans have changed, etc.." I think they've changed plans, or at least lowered the size of the "quantum leap" they were planning on taking.

 

[sircarltonlotus]

I'm sorry, but the Forza 5 Nurburgring is beautiful.... It makes the GT6 one look like GT's Suzuki Alto Works....

I voted for the last option "it's not, plans have changed, etc.." I think they've changed plans, or at least lowered the size of the "quantum leap" they were planning on taking.

I'm not suggesting for one moment the nurb just added to fm5 isn't beautiful

 

[lancia delta hf]

Do you realise that a quantum leap is the smallest possible change to a system? Change the color of one pixel on a loading screen and GT6 has undergone a quantum leap...

Of course this is exactly what Kaz intended and what many of us were excited about, I've always wanted a one pixel colour change DLC.

Quantum leap as commonly used is a bastardization of the term quantum and should not be used by anyone. It was coined by people who clearly did not understand Max Planck's work on quanta and used it to describe things entirely unrelated. Simply because a lot of people make the mistake often enough for it to be commonly accepted does not mean it is correct or acceptable.

Dictionaries, especially online dictionaries competing for hits are not guardians of languages but are a reflection of them. Words get added or deleted as their usage levels rise and fall. Whether a term is correct or makes any logical sense makes no difference and thus you can not use a dictionary definition to prove your point.

Oh please, Who are you trying to convince "quantum leap in DLC" meant anything other than a signicant supply in quantity or quality of DLC! Yourself or the critics?

 

[TokoTurismo]

I also voted "It's not, plans have change etc" too. Sorry but there ain't no "quantum leap" at all in GT6...

 

[NICKname]

GT5 was just as dead 6 months after release. Wait another 6 and then we'll see if it has been a quantum leap.

I already given up.

Then leave...

 

[ZovoVanBasten]

Oh boy.....

 

[dice1998]

Wait another 6 and then we'll see if it has been a quantum leap.

To GT7, right?

 

[NICKname]

To GT7, right?

Yes, just as GT6 was released 12 months after GT5, as really happened. It is now June 2014, and GT6 has been released 6 months ago in November 2011. PD has since then not done anything, not a single new thing, and we will never get anything from them ever. Naturally this means they will announce GT7 any second now.

 

[super_gt]

but GT5 had no competition!after 5 months Project CARS will be released and things will change!

 

[mister dog]

Let's face it, this whole franchise is more or less guided by Kaz's excentric pleasures. What the public wants is second or third plan hence the fustration of people not receiving what they want in a GT game nowadays.

You want updated sounds, gameplay, AI and consistent DLC? He gives you the moon, a lunar rover and vision GT cars

 

[Griffith500]

Quantum leap as commonly used is a bastardization of the term quantum and should not be used by anyone. It was coined by people who clearly did not understand Max Planck's work on quanta and used it to describe things entirely unrelated. Simply because a lot of people make the mistake often enough for it to be commonly accepted does not mean it is correct or acceptable.

Dictionaries, especially online dictionaries competing for hits are not guardians of languages but are a reflection of them. Words get added or deleted as their usage levels rise and fall. Whether a term is correct or makes any logical sense makes no difference and thus you can not use a dictionary definition to prove your point.

If you want to go back far enough, quantum just means "how much?" It is not a specific amount, certainly not "smallest", as you imply.

That is a misunderstanding of the significance in Planck's work, which is to say that energy, at a certain level, is exchanged in several fixed "quanta", defined by the particular system in question, as opposed to a continuous scale of any amount, as occurs in the macroscopic world (as it happens, only by sheer statistical phenomena). You can get down to talking about "smallest amounts" within that system, but it's not really the bigger point.

The figurative phrase invoked, i.e. "quantum leap", is supposed to suggest a change that is sudden and measurable, with no intermediate point or gradient of change. That is indeed by analogy to electrons jumping between "energy states" in their orbital patterns, and so the figurative sense fits.

 

[TokoTurismo]

GT5 was just as dead 6 months after release. Wait another 6 and then we'll see if it has been a quantum leap.

Please... Believe that all you want.

Then leave...

Leave where excatly? I said I've given up on the Course Maker, NOT the franchies in general...