RACE ITCC 4 - Congratulations to champions! Unofficial final points - Post #3411Finished
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I don't think we should start with success ballast, it would only be added after the first round.
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Good idea, yeah! Because the true pace of racers can be judged only when in full race mode, not on testing...
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I'm fine with having 10000g success ballast from the start. That is, if I get 10000 points in the move 
Nah, should only come into play after round 1, really. And not something like 50 kilo for a victory
I'm curious as to what will happen if, for some reason, a driver doesn't show for a race? Do(es) (t)he(y) receive last place weight reductions?
Nah, should only come into play after round 1, really. And not something like 50 kilo for a victory
I'm curious as to what will happen if, for some reason, a driver doesn't show for a race? Do(es) (t)he(y) receive last place weight reductions?
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I'm fine with having 10000g success ballast from the start. That is, if I get 10000 points in the move
Nah, should only come into play after round 1, really. And not something like 50 kilo for a victory
I'm curious as to what will happen if, for some reason, a driver doesn't show for a race? Do(es) (t)he(y) receive last place weight reductions?
10kg?
That's not much, isn't it? 
+1 👍
I suppose that, yes.
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Damned, Ciro! Those points would go to the team too, now you've ruined Plan B as well
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Damned, Ciro! Those points would go to the team too, now you've ruined Plan B as well
Sorry... 
What's plan C then?
It's not like we don't have enough letters... 
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No worries, though we're running low on ways to dominate the season 
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No worries, though we're running low on ways to dominate the season
I'll just use my uber-skills!
#feelsproud
ITCC_Andrew
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Awwww...
Any reason why not?Also, guys, preseason testing is for preseason testing. The success ballast won't transfer into the actual season, but I want to test it during preseason and then everyone can start fresh in the full season.
Otherwise, I could also put it to a vote to see who wants success ballast and who doesn't.
Test in 20 minutes.
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And PS3 internet disconnect, resetting before opening - you have an extra 5-10 minutes.
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In response to success ballast, the question really is:
Do we want a clear Vettel taking the title with half a season to go, or would we want something along the lines of the 2007 (iirc) WTCC, with 6 drivers still having a mathematical chance of becoming champion, going into the last race week? Not a difficult decision
Do we want a clear Vettel taking the title with half a season to go, or would we want something along the lines of the 2007 (iirc) WTCC, with 6 drivers still having a mathematical chance of becoming champion, going into the last race week? Not a difficult decision
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In response to success ballast, the question really is:
Do we want a clear Vettel taking the title with half a season to go, or would we want something along the lines of the 2007 (iirc) WTCC, with 6 drivers still having a mathematical chance of becoming champion, going into the last race week? Not a difficult decision
No one wants Vettels, that's for sure...
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In response to success ballast, the question really is:
Do we want a clear Vettel taking the title with half a season to go, or would we want something along the lines of the 2007 (iirc) WTCC, with 6 drivers still having a mathematical chance of becoming champion, going into the last race week? Not a difficult decision
Come on, it's ITCC... The first one will almost always happen. @jammy21, that's why you should join... So that @gtpcaine, @GTracer98, @rallymorten and I can't take off with it... Though I doubt we would.
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Or do we want to punish people for being fast? A Vettel won't happen if the cars are equal. The championship becomes more about who strategizes the success ballast the best rather than who's the fastest and most-consistent driverIn response to success ballast, the question really is:
Do we want a clear Vettel taking the title with half a season to go, or would we want something along the lines of the 2007 (iirc) WTCC, with 6 drivers still having a mathematical chance of becoming champion, going into the last race week? Not a difficult decision
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*sigh* it's impossible to make a point in this thread
What I mean is, success ballast *slows* the *fast* drivers, and gives the *slow* drivers a chance to actually score some points. That can't be bad, can it? Besides, this is touring car racing, and those are meant to be *close* (I'm not talking about demolition derby close, mind you)
What I mean is, success ballast *slows* the *fast* drivers, and gives the *slow* drivers a chance to actually score some points. That can't be bad, can it? Besides, this is touring car racing, and those are meant to be *close* (I'm not talking about demolition derby close, mind you)
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*sigh* it's impossible to make a point in this thread
What I mean is, success ballast *slows* the *fast* drivers, and gives the *slow* drivers a chance to actually score some points. That can't be bad, can it? Besides, this is touring car racing, and those are meant to be *close* (I'm not talking about demolition derby close, mind you)
Sometimes, mate, sometimes it does happen...
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Or the slow drivers can practice more so they'll be as good as the fast drivers assuming the specs are equal. That's punishing hard work and rewarding laziness*sigh* it's impossible to make a point in this thread
What I mean is, success ballast *slows* the *fast* drivers, and gives the *slow* drivers a chance to actually score some points. That can't be bad, can it? Besides, this is touring car racing, and those are meant to be *close* (I'm not talking about demolition derby close, mind you)
ITCC_Andrew
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Sometimes, mate, sometimes it does happen...
Braun's not here right now, can I take a message for him?
In previous seasons, the racing has been close despite the lack of success ballast. I'm not sure if it will be closer or not with success ballast, but I'm all for anything that gives everyone an equal chance at winning. That's what this series is created for.
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what's ur psn andrew ??
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Edit:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_I08hzqEj_DaN53MIzaFNHfoOSSOKRjQA3Zdu6CrlAg/viewform
Created a Google Document for success ballast voting.
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Then let's disable tuning, all run the same, spec car, and then I'll agree with success ballast. You're not taking into consideration that people will spend different amounts of time practicing, tuning, etc. and plus the people who do well in the first two races have to start at the tail end of the grid for rounds two and three. That's enough of a handicap right there if I say so myself
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