Racing Soft Drift?

[miko1337]

Okay, I'm going to get bashed to hell here but I don't really care.
Been a Comfort Hard drifter since I've been on the game, really good at it too. But I'd really like to try some Gymkhana style drifting on Top Gear Test Track on racing softs in an AWD car just for giggles and fun.

However, no matter how I tune my Impreza WRX I cannot seem to get it to lose traction. I know it's possible because I've seen other people doing it. I once saw a guy drifting FF, so I know Racing Soft drifting is possible in AWD. I've done it pretty good on racing hards, just not racing softs.

I'm so terrible at tuning it to drift on racing hards that I've got it to go on two wheels and hold it for the entire straight. Was pretty funny. Anyway, any ideas to get this to work would be greatly appreciated.

 

[APXCaramel]

Power? Weight? And if those are maxed, tune your center diff to the rear followed by adding more camber. More camber means less tire on the road, less grip, easier to break loose.

But I'd just stick to comfort hards and use RWD.

 

[miko1337]

Power? Weight? And if those are maxed, tune your center diff to the rear followed by adding more camber. More camber means less tire on the road, less grip, easier to break loose.

But I'd just stick to comfort hards and use RWD.

Sorry for the confusion but did you mean max out weight? Why would I want to do that?

 

[Dan]

My suggestion for drifting in an AWD cars is Sports Hard tires or less. Sports Hard allow you to maintain a drift (although you will need to be keen on tuning and driving) while giving more traction than Comfort Hards do. The only time I've seen racing softs in a drift was when a guy was drifting his '69 Dodge Charger and a guy using RS tires on the front wheels of his AE86.

 

[miko1337]

My suggestion for drifting in an AWD cars is Sports Hard tires or less. Sports Hard allow you to maintain a drift (although you will need to be keen on tuning and driving) while giving more traction than Comfort Hards do. The only time I've seen racing softs in a drift was when a guy was drifting his '69 Dodge Charger and a guy using RS tires on the front wheels of his AE86.

Really all I want is to break traction and be able to get SOME angle, but mainly focusing on very fast drifting(I don't mean touge). If AWD isn't good for that, then I'm willing to use another drivetrain as long as I can go really fast. xD

 

[miko1337]

Well I've done some testing on GT5 with the BTR and wow. Caramel was right.

This car is weaving through cones and pulling some insane angle as well. Extreeeeemely fun. Had to almost max out the camber in the back haha. Thanks so much for the help!

 

[lldantell]

My suggestion for drifting in an AWD cars is Sports Hard tires or less. Sports Hard allow you to maintain a drift (although you will need to be keen on tuning and driving) while giving more traction than Comfort Hards do. The only time I've seen racing softs in a drift was when a guy was drifting his '69 Dodge Charger and a guy using RS tires on the front wheels of his AE86.

Most people use racing softs on a yellowbird because the car is so loose

 

[Reddee]

It wont loose traction because because your using racing soft. Try sports hard or medium they will be a lot better.

 

[Dan]

Most people use racing softs on a yellowbird because the car is so loose

True. That car is bat**** crazy.

 

[miko1337]

It wont loose traction because because your using racing soft. Try sports hard or medium they will be a lot better.

Nah I got it to drift. Maxed out rear camber, very whippy but you can control it if you have a soft touch. Hah.

 

[Gonales]

Guys... You can't drift anything higher than comfort tires. Those people stating they can are posers, nothing more.

 

[lldantell]

Guys... You can't drift anything higher than comfort tires. Those people stating they can are posers, nothing more.

Or noobs

 

[miko1337]

Guys... You can't drift anything higher than comfort tires. Those people stating they can are posers, nothing more.

Nobody cares about your try hard elitism with comfort tires. I stated that I was doing this for fun.

If you haven't noticed yet. Gran Turismo 5 is a video game. Games are made for entertainment. I could call you a poser for drifting in a video game. Please refrain from making idiotic statements in a "Just for fun" thread, nobody will listen to you.

 

[Duman079]

I actually saw a Japanese guy drift racing hards once and he was pretty good lmao. Just use what you want 👍.

Though it is more like gymkhana. You could ''drift'' some corners but not the whole track. Try gymkhana on sports hard, that would be less grippier.

 

[miko1337]

I actually saw a Japanese guy drift racing hards once and he was pretty good lmao. Just use what you want 👍.

Though it is more like gymkhana. You could ''drift'' some corners but not the whole track. Try gymkhana on sports hard, that would be less grippier.

I've seen full lobbies of JPN drifters on racing softs. They were godly on them. Tandem, door to door around Clubman 5. I just sat and watched. Pretty neat stuff.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Okay, I'm going to get bashed to hell here but I don't really care.
Been a Comfort Hard drifter since I've been on the game, really good at it too. But I'd really like to try some Gymkhana style drifting on Top Gear Test Track on racing softs in an AWD car just for giggles and fun.

However, no matter how I tune my Impreza WRX I cannot seem to get it to lose traction. I know it's possible because I've seen other people doing it. I once saw a guy drifting FF, so I know Racing Soft drifting is possible in AWD. I've done it pretty good on racing hards, just not racing softs.

I'm so terrible at tuning it to drift on racing hards that I've got it to go on two wheels and hold it for the entire straight. Was pretty funny. Anyway, any ideas to get this to work would be greatly appreciated.

If you want GYMKHANA then try not using racing softs or racing tires period

The tires model is so off in GT5 that the F1 cars do not need racing soft tires. Reason unrealistic god grip.

And in GYMKHANA in real life at least they would use around a sports medium grade tire.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Nobody cares about your try hard elitism with comfort tires. I stated that I was doing this for fun.

If you haven't noticed yet. Gran Turismo 5 is a video game. Games are made for entertainment. I could call you a poser for drifting in a video game. Please refrain from making idiotic statements in a "Just for fun" thread, nobody will listen to you.

👍👍👍👍👍

When racing around my older brother he accidentally, and then seriously began to drift in Racing Soft tires in his RX7 TC. Worked out extremely well.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

The afore-mentioned Yellowbird will quite happily drift on Sports Hards. The idea that only comfort tires can be considered drifting is the exact sort of close-minded elitism that scares off newcomers.

CH tires make it easier to extend drifts and link corners, and bring the average speeds down to make close tandem runs easier and more predictable, but every level of tire in the game can drift, depending on what it's attached to.

 

[lldantell]

CH tires make it easier to extend drifts and link corners, and bring the average speeds down to make close tandem runs easier and more predictable

This is why I use these tires when I driving cars like the brz,all the way to the Cerbera peed 12(I can be a bit crazy with my drift cars)

 

[Gonales]

The afore-mentioned Yellowbird will quite happily drift on Sports Hards. The idea that only comfort tires can be considered drifting is the exact sort of close-minded elitism that scares off newcomers.

CH tires make it easier to extend drifts and link corners, and bring the average speeds down to make close tandem runs easier and more predictable, but every level of tire in the game can drift, depending on what it's attached to.

I will agree that 'for fun' you can drift anything, although it will not look half as good, and it will scare away a lot of the decent drifters on this forum. (And people that have the same kind of attitude like me, that aren't on this forum.)

As soon as you try competitions though, you will get nowhere. Trust me.

👍👍👍👍👍

When racing around my older brother he accidentally, and then seriously began to drift in Racing Soft tires in his RX7 TC. Worked out extremely well.

I'd have loved to see that.

 

[twitcher]

I will agree that 'for fun' you can drift anything, although it will not look half as good, and it will scare away a lot of the decent drifters on this forum. (And people that have the same kind of attitude like me, that aren't on this forum.)

As soon as you try competitions though, you will get nowhere. Trust me.



I'd have loved to see that.

Where in this thread did anyone say anything about competitions?? The OP is talking about doing gymkhana on TGTT, most likely by himself....use whatever tires you want man!!

 

[Downhill Dino]

I don't understand how any tires above Comforts are automatically "for fun" only. Competitions are not the guide lines to how people should drift and I don't understand why this community continues to think so.

 

[Gonales]

I don't understand how any tires above Comforts are automatically "for fun" only. Competitions are not the guide lines to how people should drift and I don't understand why this community continues to think so.

What are the guidelines then? If you seem to rule out my opinion, and a lot of other people their opinion, I'd love to hear yours...

 

[Downhill Dino]

Well there's the problem. It's an opinion. Opinion =/= Fact.

 

[miko1337]

What are the guidelines then? If you seem to rule out my opinion, and a lot of other people their opinion, I'd love to hear yours...

Well I don't speak for him, but I do speak for myself. You're trying to speak on behalf of other drifters and give them a bad name with your condescending attitude, you're the only one in this thread who has started to bash on me and a few others simply because of what tire we like to have fun on.

While we're on that note, drifting on something other than comfort hards can look good or even better than comfort hards. That's pretty much what Gymkhana is about; style drifting, not competition.

We have answered your question already many times and yet you act like you are autocratic on the "rules" of drifting. The point being, there are no rules, no guidelines, the point as I have stated before is to have fun.

From comfort hards to racing softs, the point of drifting is to have fun. I understand, most drifting is done on comfort hards because of the ease to tandem and the slow speed. It's easier to join in, it's easier to acquire angle, it's easier to tandem. This is why competitions are held on comfort hards. As well as it's easier to have fun when you're not blasting by people going 120mph sideways when your buddies are on comfort hards going 50 mph on the same corner. But on the same tire, it can be equally as fun.

I don't understand why you wish to turn this thread, mind you, MY THREAD. Into a flame war over which tire is the best to drift on, because the answer is perceptible to anyone without their head dove deep into ego.

There is no best tire to drift on because we're all having fun here and fun doesn't need restrictions.

Unitas mirabile vinculum, the wonderful bond of unity.

 

[Gonales]

Well I don't speak for him, but I do speak for myself. You're trying to speak on behalf of other drifters and give them a bad name with your condescending attitude, you're the only one in this thread who has started to bash on me and a few others simply because of what tire we like to have fun on.

While we're on that note, drifting on something other than comfort hards can look good or even better than comfort hards. That's pretty much what Gymkhana is about; style drifting, not competition.

We have answered your question already many times and yet you act like you are autocratic on the "rules" of drifting. The point being, there are no rules, no guidelines, the point as I have stated before is to have fun.

From comfort hards to racing softs, the point of drifting is to have fun. I understand, most drifting is done on comfort hards because of the ease to tandem and the slow speed. It's easier to join in, it's easier to acquire angle, it's easier to tandem. This is why competitions are held on comfort hards. As well as it's easier to have fun when you're not blasting by people going 120mph sideways when your buddies are on comfort hards going 50 mph on the same corner. But on the same tire, it can be equally as fun.

I don't understand why you wish to turn this thread, mind you, MY THREAD. Into a flame war over which tire is the best to drift on, because the answer is perceptible to anyone without their head dove deep into ego.

There is no best tire to drift on because we're all having fun here and fun doesn't need restrictions.

Unitas mirabile vinculum, the wonderful bond of unity.

Fun doesn't need restrictions, is a nice statement although not completely true, but that would be another topic of discussion. (Yin and Yang, Good and Bad, you know?)

Anyway, there need to be tire restrictions because when drifting, no matter where how or what, there needs to be equality tire wise, and there needs to be a very clear correlation between experience, skill and amount of grip someone has. And since GT5 has a lot of people that do not have the skills and experience to race decently on those kind of speed and tires, why should they be allowed to use those tires when drifting?

In other words, a lot of people will find their fun ruined by people that are choosing racing tires over comfort tires.

And about the rules, seeing nobody here seems to be brave enough to try and state some... FD, D1GP, and every single competition irl has a set of rules. Most of these overlap, which makes it possible to filter out a specific set of guidelines for drifters all around the world. Why would you alter those guidelines specifically designed for the sport, just because you feel like it?

You could as well play soccer with a rugby ball, or try to bowl with a soccer ball. When you are alone, and it seems fun to you, be my guest. But in online lobbies, and when teaching others the sport... Please stick to the normal guidelines. This can only improve the community as it is imo.

 

[Stavingo]

Well there's the problem. It's an opinion. Opinion =/= Fact.

How do you go from questioning competition guidelines to ruling out opinions?

To the OP, do what you want with tires but don't expect to try to tandem with me if you're gonna blow straight past me if I'm using lower grade tires.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Anyway, there need to be tire restrictions because when drifting, no matter where how or what, there needs to be equality tire wise, and there needs to be a very clear correlation between experience, skill and amount of grip someone has. And since GT5 has a lot of people that do not have the skills and experience to race decently on those kind of speed and tires, why should they be allowed to use those tires when drifting?

In other words, a lot of people will find their fun ruined by people that are choosing racing tires over comfort tires.

Why do you continue to persist with this idea that drifters not using Comfort tires are automatically part of a low skilled drifting base? Don't tell me that that's not what you meant because it's very clear it is.

And about the rules, seeing nobody here seems to be brave enough to try and state some... FD, D1GP, and every single competition irl has a set of rules. Most of these overlap, which makes it possible to filter out a specific set of guidelines for drifters all around the world. Why would you alter those guidelines specifically designed for the sport, just because you feel like it?

Where are you going with this? Once again I'm going to bring up how rules of a series does not make it law. There is a difference between rule, and law.

You could as well play soccer with a rugby ball, or try to bowl with a soccer ball. When you are alone, and it seems fun to you, be my guest. But in online lobbies, and when teaching others the sport... Please stick to the normal guidelines. This can only improve the community as it is imo.

So I have to be a stuck-up drift elitist to create more stuck-up drift elitists? How about no? Why do you think this community is frowned upon in the rest of GTPlanet?

How do you go from questioning competition guidelines to ruling out opinions?

I don't know, it happens.

 

[Gonales]

Why do you continue to persist with this idea that drifters not using Comfort tires are automatically part of a low skilled drifting base? Don't tell me that that's not what you meant because it's very clear it is.

Because a lot of drifters on every type of tire are of a low skilled driving base imo. I'm not saying I'm good, let alone perfect, but there are only 2 or 3 drifters online which I really find to come close to really good. And frankly, none of them use tires other than comfort hards.

Where are you going with this? Once again I'm going to bring up how rules of a series does not make it law. There is a difference between rule, and law.

I'm going to the point that without a set of rules, you can't call it anything. What you describe as drifting on sport tires, I think of it acting stupid, and not coming close to drifting. I define drifting in another way you do.

So I have to be a stuck-up drift elitist to create more stuck-up drift elitists? How about no? Why do you think this community is frowned upon in the rest of GTPlanet?

No, you need to know what you are doing before you tell other people that what you are doing is good.

I don't know, it happens.

Yeah, it happens right after objectivity goes out of the window.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Because a lot of drifters on every type of tire are of a low skilled driving base imo. I'm not saying I'm good, let alone perfect, but there are only 2 or 3 drifters online which I really find to come close to really good. And frankly, none of them use tires other than comfort hards.

And so you're seeing just the few that don't know what they're doing. Never judge everyone off of a few. That's a ridiculously stupid move.

I'm going to the point that without a set of rules, you can't call it anything. What you describe as drifting on sport tires, I think of it acting stupid, and not coming close to drifting. I define drifting in another way you do.

Elaborate oh wise one.

No, you need to know what you are doing before you tell other people that what you are doing is good.

I do as much as you do.