Racing Soft Drift?

[Downhill Dino]

Wait, what is there to prove? I've lost where that statement has gone.

 

[DoRiFuTo MeGaMi]

Miko my buddie! Message me sometime, I could help you with the setup. Whichever it may be, Keep Drifting Fun:tup:

And about the tire argument, that is pretty insane. I don't think he was asking for a bashing session, I believe there is a thread on Tire Polls n such. Express those thoughts where they belong; that very thread. Use any tires you wish Miko, and people who prefer CH Only like i do, that's fine. But don't force your thoughts on others, Nor make them look bad for doing so. As both tire and drivetrain will be a controversial subject. I do not see these rules imprinted on the cover of GT5, so therefore they're pretty invalid to me. I don't believe anybody pays money for a videogame, just to be parented on whats drift and what isn't drift. On that note, I'm not feeding into this argument, just clearly jaw dropping how a video game could bring so much hate on each other. That'll be all, KDF

 

[Dan]

Sounds like me....
BTW i think you mean 70 Charger

Yeah. Sorry. I forgot its from 1970, not 1969

I'm just used to saying 1969 Dodge Charger

 

[MSTER232]

Okay, I'm going to get bashed to hell here but I don't really care.
Been a Comfort Hard drifter since I've been on the game, really good at it too. But I'd really like to try some Gymkhana style drifting on Top Gear Test Track on racing softs in an AWD car just for giggles and fun.

However, no matter how I tune my Impreza WRX I cannot seem to get it to lose traction. I know it's possible because I've seen other people doing it. I once saw a guy drifting FF, so I know Racing Soft drifting is possible in AWD. I've done it pretty good on racing hards, just not racing softs.

I'm so terrible at tuning it to drift on racing hards that I've got it to go on two wheels and hold it for the entire straight. Was pretty funny. Anyway, any ideas to get this to work would be greatly appreciated.

Don't worry about being discriminated against, most of us in the drifting forums are nice guys . But the only thing I do suggest is picking a tyre with lower grip because although Racing Soft drifting is technically possible, it's almost impossible to pull off.

 

[driftmonkey1971]

Yeah, why don't you prove it then?

Over the past few months all you have done is try and start arguments in various threads... This was about a guy asking for a setup not you telling everyone it cant be done, it becomes a pain when WE ALL have to wade through your ranting.

 

[Gonales]

Over the past few months all you have done is try and start arguments in various threads... This was about a guy asking for a setup not you telling everyone it cant be done, it becomes a pain when WE ALL have to wade through your ranting.

Well, be happy someone is doing it, because it needs to be done :/ Otherwise you will have racing soft 'drifters' all over the place :/

 

[Downhill Dino]

That's not a bad thing, as you make it out to be.

 

[nk4e]

Over the past few months all you have done is try and start arguments in various threads... This was about a guy asking for a setup not you telling everyone it cant be done, it becomes a pain when WE ALL have to wade through your ranting.

The Op is just asking for help, unfortunately it is a tire question.

Well, be happy someone is doing it, because it needs to be done :/ Otherwise you will have racing soft 'drifters' all over the place :/

If you ever see multi-threads doing this, then shoot a PM to a Mod or you can link them to a previous discussion and they can find a answer.

 

[JJSCHMITTY2000]

Well, be happy someone is doing it, because it needs to be done :/ Otherwise you will have racing soft 'drifters' all over the place :/

Gonales, you know you can limit tire choices in public lobbies, right? Drifting is supposed to be really quite fun, and just because somebody wants to drift on a different meadium doesn't really matter to me. You may say that because a person wants to drift for fun on a different tire meadium that they will completly screw the online drifting community by bombing it and recruiting others untill it dies. Rather, that's how I interpreted your statements. And to be honest, your anger is only stressing yourself out. Just because somebody wants to drift on racing softs doesn't mean that somebody has to scream at them about it. Do you honestly thing that anything you say will actually have an effect on the event suceeding it? If I said that I wanted to drift a Red Bull X2011 on Racing Softs with full aero, you would be P.O'd like there's no tomarrow. Does that mean that I won't do it? No, not really. It is technically drifting.


From wikipedia: "Drifting is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels, while maintaining control from entry to exit of a corner."

Intentionally oversteering and mantaning control = drifting. Notice how it did not mention tire choice, drivetrain choice, or anything of the sort.

Sorry for the rant, but you didn't accept others viewpoints and just repeted what you were saying before.

 

[MSTER232]

From wikipedia: "Drifting is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels, while maintaining control from entry to exit of a corner."

Intentionally oversteering and mantaning control = drifting. Notice how it did not mention tire choice, drivetrain choice, or anything of the sort.

Sorry for the rant, but you didn't accept others viewpoints and just repeted what you were saying before.

There is no restriction to tyre choice when it comes to drifting but let's just say that some choices of tyres may be more sensible than others.

 

[JJSCHMITTY2000]

There is no restriction to tyre choice when it comes to drifting but let's just say that some choices of tyres may be more sensible than others.

Definatly. It's easier to drift on comforts than it is on racings, but both are possible and equally considered drifting in my book.

 

[Duman079]

There is no restriction to tyre choice when it comes to drifting but let's just say that some choices of tyres may be more sensible than others.

This 👍. It is like playing soccer but allowing to use handball.

I think you should all just do what you want when it comes to drifting, I don't mind you using Race tires.

Most of the posts don't even answer the OP. I thinks choosing another tire will descrease the amount of grip and will give what the OP wants. Most of the hardcore racers on GTP think Racing Soft tires are not realistic though, because the amount of grip is just too much. I remember reading a thread once that a random guy in a stock Honda Super GT500 beat the lap time of one of the real racers of the Super GT500 ( Edit : on Fuji ). The amount of grip is just so much on that tire.

But when it comes to having fun : YOLO.

 

[APXCaramel]

I like the saying "Keep Drifting Fun", yet we try to limit fun. Almost like we wanna "Keep Drifting The Way I Say, Which Is Fun To Me, And Only Me".

Just saying.

 

[Gonales]

Gonales, you know you can limit tire choices in public lobbies, right? Drifting is supposed to be really quite fun, and just because somebody wants to drift on a different meadium doesn't really matter to me. You may say that because a person wants to drift for fun on a different tire meadium that they will completly screw the online drifting community by bombing it and recruiting others untill it dies. Rather, that's how I interpreted your statements. And to be honest, your anger is only stressing yourself out. Just because somebody wants to drift on racing softs doesn't mean that somebody has to scream at them about it. Do you honestly thing that anything you say will actually have an effect on the event suceeding it? If I said that I wanted to drift a Red Bull X2011 on Racing Softs with full aero, you would be P.O'd like there's no tomarrow. Does that mean that I won't do it? No, not really. It is technically drifting.


From wikipedia: "Drifting is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels, while maintaining control from entry to exit of a corner."

Intentionally oversteering and mantaning control = drifting. Notice how it did not mention tire choice, drivetrain choice, or anything of the sort.

Sorry for the rant, but you didn't accept others viewpoints and just repeted what you were saying before.

Like I said a couple of times before... Go on racing tires to the loop on Cape Ring. If you can drift that, I will gladly retract my statements.

 

[JJSCHMITTY2000]

Like I said a couple of times before... Go on racing tires to the loop on Cape Ring. If you can drift that, I will gladly retract my statements.

I never said that I could drift. You just assumed so. The tire grip is just a multiplier of 0.05 Gs, so why wouldn't it work? You would just need to be going 5% quicker for every tire compound up. Instead of expecting us to do it, why don't you try it yourself? If you're half the drifter you make yourself up to be, you could do it.

 

[harveybird]

Use the Zonda-R, racing softs. drifts stock

 

[MSTER232]

I never said that I could drift. You just assumed so. The tire grip is just a multiplier of 0.05 Gs, so why wouldn't it work? You would just need to be going 5% quicker for every tire compound up. Instead of expecting us to do it, why don't you try it yourself? If you're half the drifter you make yourself up to be, you could do it.

True, in GT5 every tyre compound upwards just multiplies the cornering/acceleration G's by a little. If you loose traction then the grip levels should be similar to Comfort Soft/Sports Hard when using Racing Softs.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I like the saying "Keep Drifting Fun", yet we try to limit fun. Almost like we wanna "Keep Drifting The Way I Say, Which Is Fun To Me, And Only Me".

Just saying.

When i get online later I think i am going to go drift on some racing intermediate tires or racing rain tires (people are looking at my avatar and saying true hahaha)

 

[MSTER232]

When i get online later I think i am going to go drift on some racing intermediate tires or racing rain tires (people are looking at my avatar and saying true hahaha)

You might want to put a little bit of water on the track to make life easier 👍 . And yes, you are mad .

 

[Lock2Lock]

You might want to put a little bit of water on the track to make life easier 👍 . And yes, you are mad .

No I am not mad hahaha. I always mess with caramel about racing rain tires being garbage. I went one lap with them on Daytona hahaha. They are the worst exuse for tires i have ever seen

 

[APXCaramel]

Nascars at Suzuka in the rain on Softs......... Just saying Lock

 

[Dan]

Nascars at Suzuka in the rain on Softs......... Just saying Lock

Sounds fun!

 

[APXCaramel]

It was..... well, intense.

 

[LERK84]

Any Slicks on a wet track have very little grip (due to no tread to move the water) & it is fun to drift on them, but i'd leave those heap of junk Nascars out.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Nascars at Suzuka in the rain on Softs......... Just saying Lock

It was..... well, intense.

Yes never again

 

[APXCaramel]

Next time, same conditions but, nurburgring and night. Hows that for ya?

 

[LPTuner]

Oh I gotta see this.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Yeah, art is subjective. But painting isn't the same as drawing is it?

...yes, and your point? Again, it is possible to drift on RS tires. Can it be sustained for as long as a CH drift? No. That doesn't mean it isn't drifting, It just doesn't meet your own arbitrary definition, which is irrelevant.

Yeah, like I said... prove to me he can do it. For example, do the ring, of cape ring on racing tires, and I will retract my statements.

That doesn't prove anything, as yet again, your personal definition of "drifting" is not the actual definition. I mean, unless we're going to use "the ring on an imaginary track in a video game" as the yardstick for determining every instance of "drifting".

Well, If he can't do what he should be able to do, kind of figures what the problem is.

He should be able to do what he wants, which is have fun playing a game how he wants. So he's succeeding.

I'm not wrong. I don't care what you guys say. I said 3 posts ago... If you think I'm wrong, prove me wrong. If you can't... Well, then I might not be wrong?

Doing the electronic equivalent of jamming your fingers in your ears and uttering "la-la-la" in ignorance of others doesn't make you right.

 

[Gonales]

...yes, and your point? Again, it is possible to drift on RS tires. Can it be sustained for as long as a CH drift? No. That doesn't mean it isn't drifting, It just doesn't meet your own arbitrary definition, which is irrelevant./QUOTE]

It's not drifting, it's just acting stupid. What would be the point of using tires which are practically useless for the job? That's like Ice-skating on rollerblades :/

That doesn't prove anything, as yet again, your personal definition of "drifting" is not the actual definition. I mean, unless we're going to use "the ring on an imaginary track in a video game" as the yardstick for determining every instance of "drifting"./QUOTE]

Hey, I linked a quote before about what drifting is. And the second part states that a drift should not end before the corner is over, or it's not a drift. Which means, that if people can't link something, they aren't drifting.

He should be able to do what he wants, which is have fun playing a game how he wants. So he's succeeding./QUOTE]

Yeah he can do what he wants. Yeah he can call it drifting. But if he is right, is not for him to decide.

Doing the electronic equivalent of jamming your fingers in your ears and uttering "la-la-la" in ignorance of others doesn't make you right.

I've asked a couple of times already to prove me wrong. Give me a point to use racing soft tires for drifting. And prove to me they can actually drift. When you do that, maybe we can have a decent discussion?

 

[Dan]

omg quoteception!