Real Guns

[Badasp5.0]

From what I understand, it's due mostly to hoarding. I think I heard somewhere that number of gun owners has been on the rise as well? If so, that only adds to the problem.

Hoarding is my guess too. I have see folks stocking up since the sandy hook aftermath. I wish I would have never stopped ordering ammo. Back in '05 I used to get a case every other payday.

 

[a6m5]

Hoarding is my guess too. I have see folks stocking up since the sandy hook aftermath. I wish I would have never stopped ordering ammo. Back in '05 I used to get a case every other payday.

I got super lucky and stocked up right until November, then Sandy Hook happened. By December & January, store shelves were cleared out. For people who shoot a lot, I can totally understand them hoarding the ammo after witnessing the depletion of ammo availability last year.

 

[Rage Racer]

Reading a blog of a Spetsnaz operator, known as "Hard Ingush". Interesting stuff.

"Take a break, eat a ration..."

"I'm often asked: how to get over the fear of being caught under fire for the first time? Of course, the experience will come, but what should a young soldier do when ending up under fire for the first time? Got the question, answering. Those who think that people under fire behave like in a movie are wrong. Being fired at is always displeasing and fearful. Fear is OK. But uncontrolled fear is not OK. Uncontrolled fear is caused by suspense. If you ever have been shot at, you know what it's like. So what's the conclusion? You must shoot at your soldiers yourself. Friendly fire is usually done under legs - you have to trust your comrades and go, disregarding what's under your legs and hoping that your brothers won't make you lose them (I'll make a vid of that sometime) or just shoot a shield. Like this:

Answering questions in advance:
- Are you shooting real bullets (or blanks)?
- Real bullets.
- And what if something goes wrong and a soldier dies?
- We don't need losers in our unit. "

 

[Zenith]

An answer, maybe not the answer, to ammunition shortages in the US was the Assault Weapons Ban threat.

In the face of another bloody AWB, people who had previously been on the fence about whether they wanted a gun or not felt as if they were running out of time to make their decision. Although many people would like you to believe that all the panic buying was done by nut jobs who were buying their 14th Child-Murderizer-15, the guys who already had AR's and weapons that would be affected by the ban really didn't step up their purchases much. It was mostly people who didn't own any guns or many guns who went to buy that AR that they always kinda wanted but never really wanted to stretch the paycheck.

As a result of this, we've got a bunch of brand new shooters who want to try out a brand new rifle. They need ammo, they buy ammo, we run out of ammo to buy. If it had been Mr. Armory who was buying in response to the AWB, it is doubtful he would've shot any more than he already did.

I've also heard that there have been more taxes imposed on ammunition manufacturing and storage, meaning that it makes less sense for the manufacturers and retailers to create large stockpiles of the stuff.

 

[Badasp5.0]

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Interesting they do live fire that close. I wonder if beyond the shield the soldier is wearing some sort of IBA/SAPI plate combo. In the US Army we get shot at as part of basic training but it is a completely different setup. Dangerous sure but it was exciting and kinda fun to be honest.

 

[a6m5]

Those Spetsnaz pics are rad. 👍

An answer, maybe not the answer, to ammunition shortages in the US was the Assault Weapons Ban threat.

In the face of another bloody AWB, people who had previously been on the fence about whether they wanted a gun or not felt as if they were running out of time to make their decision. Although many people would like you to believe that all the panic buying was done by nut jobs who were buying their 14th Child-Murderizer-15, the guys who already had AR's and weapons that would be affected by the ban really didn't step up their purchases much. It was mostly people who didn't own any guns or many guns who went to buy that AR that they always kinda wanted but never really wanted to stretch the paycheck.

As a result of this, we've got a bunch of brand new shooters who want to try out a brand new rifle. They need ammo, they buy ammo, we run out of ammo to buy. If it had been Mr. Armory who was buying in response to the AWB, it is doubtful he would've shot any more than he already did.

I've also heard that there have been more taxes imposed on ammunition manufacturing and storage, meaning that it makes less sense for the manufacturers and retailers to create large stockpiles of the stuff.

I mentioned Sandy Hook, but you are right, it was the possible ban following the tragedy that turned the market upside down. I also agree that the lot of people driven to buy guns weren't necessarily gun owners or collectors. In fact, almost every gun owners in my circle were turned off by the scarcity of selections caused by the (crazy)heightened demand, also the prices shooting up. I think more guns were sold by us than purchased, taking advantage of the rising prices of all firearms, including used. I'm not gonna lie, when my Bushmaster 308 started selling for easily double what I paid, it did cross my mind, too.

 

[acascianelli]

Just got a call from my local gun shop that they have a Glock 42 in stock waiting for me. I have 24 hours to decided if I want the 42, or something like a 26 or 36. Decisions decisions.

 

[Brett]

Why not all three?

 

[Zenith]

Just got a call from my local gun shop that they have a Glock 42 in stock waiting for me. I have 24 hours to decided if I want the 42, or something like a 26 or 36. Decisions decisions.

http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gear...id-hate-the-glock-42-but-i-didnt/?repeat=w3tc

I thought you guys might like these:

 

[a6m5]

Love both Glock 26 & 36. I don't particularly care for .380 caliber(the new Glock 42), but it seems to be very popular for conceal carry.

Edit: Glock 19(from Z-Man's vid) makes me want 9mm back(definitely Gen 3).

 

[Slash]

 

[slayer91]

Currently own 30 firearms, including 3 AR-15's, an AK-74, AKM-63, SLR-106, 5 handguns, 3 shotguns, a few .22s, a few hunting rifles and 5 antique military rifles including a K31, Enfield No. 4 Mk. I and a Kar98. Also in the process of building a converted semi-automatic Sten Mk. II. Plus there's the 7,000+ rounds of ammunition I have to shoot through all of them. God America's a great place to live (for now)

a6m5, also a fellow Glock fan. Currently have a Gen 3 G21. Looking at getting a Gen 4 G19 or a G41 next.

 

[a6m5]

NRA instrument cluster

How accurate could that thing be?

Currently own 30 firearms, including 3 AR-15's, an AK-74, AKM-63, SLR-106, 5 handguns, 3 shotguns, a few .22s, a few hunting rifles and 5 antique military rifles including a K31, Enfield No. 4 Mk. I and a Kar98. Also in the process of building a converted semi-automatic Sten Mk. II. Plus there's the 7,000+ rounds of ammunition I have to shoot through all of them. God America's a great place to live (for now)

a6m5, also a fellow Glock fan. Currently have a Gen 3 G21. Looking at getting a Gen 4 G19 or a G41 next.

You have lot of guns......

I don't know if I can be referred to as a Glock fan as I don't own one right now. I do love them though. I had hoped to have purchased something like Glock 30S by now, but I've had some unexpected expenditure + more expected on the way, so Glocks may be banned already in my state by the time I get the money together.

God America's a great place to live (for now)

I heard on the radio today that, Astronaut husband of Gabrielle Giffords is supposed to hit Oregon to push more anti-gun garbage on us. Probably the same clueless B.S. that will not accomplish a thing, except job security.

 

[slayer91]

How accurate could that thing be?

You have lot of guns......

I don't know if I can be referred to as a Glock fan as I don't own one right now. I do love them though. I had hoped to have purchased something like Glock 30S by now, but I've had some unexpected expenditure + more expected on the way, so Glocks may be banned already in my state by the time I get the money together.



I heard on the radio today that, Astronaut husband of Gabrielle Giffords is supposed to hit Oregon to push more anti-gun garbage on us. Probably the same clueless B.S. that will not accomplish a thing, except job security.

The Glock 30SF is a very nice gun. I have shot a couple and they fit my hand very well and are reasonably accurate considering the shorter barrel. The 36 is great too. JG Sales has pretty decent prices on police trade-in Glocks right now, starting under $400 if you don't mind a used gun. My 21 was a police trade in. Paid $650 for it, came with factory night sights and 8 13 round magazines. I passed on a Gen3 G20 (10mm Auto full size) last year, unfired in the box for $375 and have been kicking myself ever since. Some people don't like the fact that the trigger is the only safety on the gun, but a more reliable semi-auto you will not find.

Check this out:
http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

 

[a6m5]

The Glock 30SF is a very nice gun. I have shot a couple and they fit my hand very well and are reasonably accurate considering the shorter barrel. The 36 is great too. JG Sales has pretty decent prices on police trade-in Glocks right now, starting under $400 if you don't mind a used gun. My 21 was a police trade in. Paid $650 for it, came with factory night sights and 8 13 round magazines. I passed on a Gen3 G20 (10mm Auto full size) last year, unfired in the box for $375 and have been kicking myself ever since. Some people don't like the fact that the trigger is the only safety on the gun, but a more reliable semi-auto you will not find.

Check this out:
http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

Nice gun shop. 👍 Prices are good, and if there was a used gun I'd buy without a worry, it'd be Glock. Actually, my main gun, Kimber Custom Target II was a heavily used gun. Thanks for the link(I'll share it with my friends), and I'll check out the torture testing link later.

Lot of people I know(both on here & in real life) don't like how Glocks shoot, which I can totally respect, but Glock's simplicity & reliability are huge "pro's" to me. Not to mention their practical pricing. 👍

 

[Michael88]

Went to my shooting range to send some bullets downrange, all sorts of stupid things happened.

One of my reloaded cartridges had a too long OAL. When I chambered one the range officer declared the range ''save'' so I had to unload the fresh cartridge immediately. The bullet had already kissed the lands of the bore so when I tried to extract it the bullet got stuck and I was pulling out the brass with the unburned powder spilling all into the action of the rifle rendering it useless. I still need to give it a through cleaning, the little powder specks are completely jamming up the action, especially where the locking lugs lock up.

Then for some odd reason the brass case of a cartridge didn't seal correctly so lots of gas got around it blowing right into my face and into the action. Fortunately it didn't burn my face or eyes.

Then I shot a 8x57 98 and I accidentally left some space between the butt plate and the shoulder pocket. Big mistake. It hammered me pretty bad.
This is the result: (Its kind of hard to see, the bruise is palm-sized)

But it was not in vain, I shot some pretty decent groups with my reloads. 👍

 

[slayer91]

Went to my shooting range to send some bullets downrange, all sorts of stupid things happened.

One of my reloaded cartridges had a too long OAL. When I chambered one the range officer declared the range ''save'' so I had to unload the fresh cartridge immediately. The bullet had already kissed the lands of the bore so when I tried to extract it the bullet got stuck and I was pulling out the brass with the unburned powder spilling all into the action of the rifle rendering it useless. I still need to give it a through cleaning, the little powder specks are completely jamming up the action, especially where the locking lugs lock up.

Then for some odd reason the brass case of a cartridge didn't seal correctly so lots of gas got around it blowing right into my face and into the action. Fortunately it didn't burn my face or eyes.

Then I shot a 8x57 98 and I accidentally left some space between the butt plate and the shoulder pocket. Big mistake. It hammered me pretty bad.
This is the result: (Its kind of hard to see, the bruise is palm-sized)

But it was not in vain, I shot some pretty decent groups with my reloads. 👍

Been there and done that. Snow stuck between the butt pad of my 7mm Weatherby Mag and my shoulder sighting in one year led to a nice bruise and some scope bite on the nose and above the right eye. I have had similar ammo woes too. was shooting some factory .303 loads in my Enfield a couple summers ago and had a couple cases separate. Either the cases were out of spec or the loads were overcharged. I have also had surplus ammo with dented cases rupture and blow gas out of the action, especially with the old Pakistani .303 (also notorious for hangfiring) and the 1950's brass case Soviet 7.62X54R.

 

[a6m5]

That's some scary stuff, guys. Glad you guys are in one piece.

 

[Slash]

That's some scary stuff, guys. Glad you guys are in one piece.

Same as I. Don't need any accidents.

 

[Swagger897]

Been there and done that. Snow stuck between the butt pad of my 7mm Weatherby Mag and my shoulder sighting in one year led to a nice bruise and some scope bite on the nose and above the right eye. I have had similar ammo woes too. was shooting some factory .303 loads in my Enfield a couple summers ago and had a couple cases separate. Either the cases were out of spec or the loads were overcharged. I have also had surplus ammo with dented cases rupture and blow gas out of the action, especially with the old Pakistani .303 (also notorious for hangfiring) and the 1950's brass case Soviet 7.62X54R.

Had that happen to me the other week. The case split from the neck to the rim, but no blowback.

I have still yet to check for head spacing, but I think after a couple hundred rounds through it, with nothing bad, it's okay. I still want to test it out as I think it's a source for my sticky bolt, after cleaning out the gun multiple times thoroughly.

 

[Michael88]

Same as I. Don't need any accidents.

Me neither, those accidents are unpleasant reminders that there are little bombs with tens of thousands of PSI going off inches from your face and that even tiny problems can turn into huge problems.

. was shooting some factory .303 loads in my Enfield a couple summers ago and had a couple cases separate. Either the cases were out of spec or the loads were overcharged.

303's are notorious for splitting cases, the chambers of Enfields are incredibly oversized for the rounds so they could fire when very dirty and under less than ideal conditions. The increased reliability creates a huge downside that is putting lots of stress on the brass when firing.
Thats why you have to be extra careful when reloading 303's, don't full-length resize the brass, only neck-size it. Full-length resizing 303's can cause reloaded brass to split or separate their case bases. And never fire damaged (dented) .303's! On top of that Enfields don't handle escaping gas very well, its not a Mauser system with two big gas relief ports cut into the firing pin channel.

A worst-case case failure might send a jet of hot burning gas through the firing pin channel right into your face/eye. Thats how Paul Mauser (Yes, the designer of the Mauser 98) lost his right eye. That happened with the weaker predecessor system of the Mauser 98 System, the Mauser 96. This accident made him improve the 96 System with various safety features (Gas prts in the bolt, gas shield, third locking lug, bigger front locking lugs) which would become the legendary Mauser 98 System.

Man, I'm rambling again, what I'm trying to say is always wear eye protection and be extra careful with rifles that don't handle case failures very well.

 

[slayer91]

Me neither, those accidents are unpleasant reminders that there are little bombs with tens of thousands of PSI going off inches from your face and that even tiny problems can turn into huge problems.



303's are notorious for splitting cases, the chambers of Enfields are incredibly oversized for the rounds so they could fire when very dirty and under less than ideal conditions. The increased reliability creates a huge downside that is putting lots of stress on the brass when firing.
Thats why you have to be extra careful when reloading 303's, don't full-length resize the brass, only neck-size it. Full-length resizing 303's can cause reloaded brass to split or separate their case bases. And never fire damaged (dented) .303's! On top of that Enfields don't handle escaping gas very well, its not a Mauser system with two big gas relief ports cut into the firing pin channel.

A worst-case case failure might send a jet of hot burning gas through the firing pin channel right into your face/eye. Thats how Paul Mauser (Yes, the designer of the Mauser 98) lost his right eye. That happened with the weaker predecessor system of the Mauser 98 System, the Mauser 96. This accident made him improve the 96 System with various safety features (Gas prts in the bolt, gas shield, third locking lug, bigger front locking lugs) which would become the legendary Mauser 98 System.

Man, I'm rambling again, what I'm trying to say is always wear eye protection and be extra careful with rifles that don't handle case failures very well.

What is interesting is that I have only had this problem with Sellier & Bellot brass. Winchester and Prvi Partizan have not shown the excessive stretching or rupturing that S&B has. I have realoded hundreds of rounds of .303, and the load I use over 150 gr. Hornady or Sierra bullets is relatively light compared to others, not much over 2000 FPS. That seems to be what the gun likes, though. And yes, the excessively loose chambers also throw a wrench in the gears. I neck size almost everything except for virgin cases.

7.92 Mauser is also an interesting bird here in the states. Factory ammo is loaded very weak because too many people try to shoot 7.92X57S (.323" bullet) through their Gewehr 88 rifles, which have a .318" bore, unless they have been re-arsenaled and proofed on the barrel with the "S" stamp. It seems that this is the reason for the lossin popularity with the 7.92 over here. A cartridge that is about on par with .30-06 is loaded to not much above .30-30 specs because people either were not informed of the different barrel size or didn't pay attention. Prvi Partizan (and if you can find it, RWS/DynamitNobel) are the only manufacturers of full-power 7.92X57 over here.

 

[a6m5]

I just read about the newly designed NY-Legal AR-15 in the "Guns" thread? I think this is the NY-AR rifle. What if you own a AR in that state? If you get caught with it, could they potentially take your gun, or put you in jail? If so, they should put the NY Governor in jail you better go get the restyled stock!

 

[slayer91]

I just read about the newly designed NY-Legal AR-15 in the "Guns" thread? I think this is the NY-AR rifle. What if you own a AR in that state? If you get caught with it, could they potentially take your gun, or put you in jail? If so, they should put the NY Governor in jail you better go get the restyled stock!

A bunch of stupid non-sense. I live right near the NY border so I communicate with a lot of New Yorkers, who still come to PA to buy guns and ammo (background check for ammo purchases in NY, no online purchases permitted) and who say that they aren't going to register their guns. It is going to end up just like Canada's registration, an ineffective black hole of spending. Albany and NYC should split off from the rest of New York and leave the other poor people alone. Once you go west of Albany, New York is a pretty right leaning state, as is Pennsylvania when you move west of Philly. Unfortunately for us, we each have a city or two that sways elections the other way, sucks money out of the rest of the state, and drags us into their Chicago-style strong-arm politics. Even though PA is a very gun-friendly state and is fairly conservative, I am afraid of what might happen after Corbett leaves office because a lot of people are not happy with what he has had to do in order to get the state's finances back in black (cut state pensions and funds, play ball with the hydrofracking companies, etc.)

On a more positive note, I have the Sten all ready to be assembled for the most part. Still have to tweak the ejector to line up with the bolt, fab the barrel extension and modify the bolt to be a striker-fired closed bolt as opposed to the fixed pin open bolt that the ATF frowns upon. Pics will go up when finished.

And a guy I work with bought a new pistol the other day and brought in to work yesterday. Freedom Arms .454 Casull.....what a handful that's going to be. My Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Magnum is about all I care to shoot.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Love this story about an anti-gun moron. Shows you how they all think. "Laws don't apply to me!"


http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/10/gu...ting-school/2/

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-regi...chool-20140207

A Buffalo, N.Y. community activist who is well known locally for pushing for a highly restrictive 2013 gun control law has been arrested for — wait for it — carrying a gun illegally at a public elementary school.

The arrested gun-control advocate, Dwayne Ferguson, caused quite a scene at Harvey Austin Elementary School, reports local CBS affiliate WIVB.

At about 4:15 p.m. on Thursday, police acted on a pair of anonymous 911 tips. A battalion of cops quickly swarmed the school. The brigade included over a dozen squad cars, the SWAT team and K9 units. The Erie County Sheriff’s Air One helicopter and what appears to be an armored vehicle also turned up.

The school was immediately placed on lockdown. Parts of two streets were closed.

About 60 students who were still on campus participating in after-school activities were funneled to the cafeteria.

Cops searched the school room by room and would not let parents on campus until they were satisfied that no shooting threat existed.

Ferguson, 52, was at Harvey Elementary because he works as a mentor in an after-school program for disadvantaged students.

He said he frequently carries a pistol. He has a license but the license does not matter under the strict state law Ferguson helped pass.

Among much else, the 2013 law, deemed New York’s SAFE Act, made it a felony to carry a gun on school property, according to The Buffalo News.

While it was always illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, the new law bumped the crime from a misdemeanor to a felony in response to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

The community activist has claimed that he forgot he was carrying his gun in a felony gun-free zone he helped create.

Rev. James E. Giles, Ferguson’s friend and the president of Buffalo’s Back to Basics Outreach Ministries, vouched for this claim.

“I’m sure Dwayne went into the school not thinking he had the gun on him,” Giles told The Buffalo News.

Giles said Ferguson even asked police on the scene what was going on.

“Dwayne’s reaction was to get his kids — he had about 50 of them — and make sure they were safe,” Giles explained.

Ferguson was eventually busted when police were patting down the people at the school so they could evacuate. He was wearing the gun in a holster. Throughout the duration of the terrifying lockdown, the community activist never bothered to tell the cops that he was carrying a gun.

“He had opportunities,” local chief of police Kevin Brinkworth told the News.

“I will say he had no ill intent to harm these students,” Brinkworth noted. “I don’t know why he had it on him.”

Ferguson is the head of the Buffalo chapter of MAD DADS, a national group that opposes gang violence and illegal drugs. MAD DADS is an acronym for Men Against Destruction Defending Against Drugs and Social Disorder.

The father of three also belongs to Buffalo Peacemakers, a separate anti-violence group that stands athwart gang-related crime.

Still more, Ferguson is something of a professional vigilante in Buffalo. He can be seen patrolling local malls and city streets in an effort to stop gang violence.

Ferguson now faces two felony charges of criminal gun possession.

He faced his first court hearing on Friday, reports local NBC affiliate WGRZ. Prosecutors had asked Judge Jeanette Ogden to set bail at $10,000. However, Ogden allowed Ferguson to walk out of her courtroom on his own recognizance, citing his community involvement and his squeaky clean criminal record.

Ogden did order Ferguson to submit all of his guns to authorities and to stay away from Harvey Austin Elementary until his criminal case has been resolved.

 

[Kent]

@Solid Lifters

I think this brings up an interesting point on many levels.

Regarding the idea that an anti-gun activist is not only an owner but also a carrying permit holder who doesn't follow the law.

Of course everyone wants to come to his aid. However, I ask, do we really want someone carrying a gun if they don't have the where-with-all to know they are currently carrying?
I've never once forgot I had a gun in my possession. Whether that be at the range, in the car, or at the home, I've never once forgot about a gun.

 

[slayer91]

@Solid Lifters

I think this brings up an interesting point on many levels.

Regarding the idea that an anti-gun activist is not only an owner but also a carrying permit holder who doesn't follow the law.

Of course everyone wants to come to his aid. However, I ask, do we really want someone carrying a gun if they don't have the where-with-all to know they are currently carrying?
I've never once forgot I had a gun in my possession. Whether that be at the range, in the car, or at the home, I've never once forgot about a gun.

I always enjoy when I go to the range and some inexperienced moron goes around running their mouth and pointing their loaded, chambered gun at people. Then they set up their targets on top of the back stop. Or they will shoot at things off to the side of or behind the firing line just to destroy stuff. A couple of years ago, a friend of mine and I were at our old range shooting the 300 yd. swinger with his Armalite AR-50 (.50 BMG) and my Smith & Wesson M&P-15. Some guy pulls up in a truck, pulls a picnic table out in front of us in the middle of the range and starts shooting his .22. My buddy wanted to shoot the leg off the table with his .50 , but we just ended leaving to get away from someone that stupid and dangerous.

 

[a6m5]

Even though I totally disagree with Ferguson's politics, I do feel bad for him. I don't know if he's lying about forgetting that he was carrying a piece, but regardless, sounds like he is a decent guy who is committed to his community.

Having said that, I totally agree with Kent. Once you are busted with such offense, claiming that he had forgotten that he had a gun on him, or that he could have purposely carried a firearm into a restricted zone, and tried to get away with the offense, I think a discussion should take place if he should be allowed to keep his guns.

Personally, I'd give him a benefit of doubt & expect him to never do it again. But if he truly is some kind of idiot, what's next? Leave his gun unattended, and some kid gets hurt? Maybe he'll clean a loaded gun & blow his hand off by accident? The guy needs to respect his gun more, also the gun laws that he loves so frigging much!

 

[Michael88]

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7.92 Mauser is also an interesting bird here in the states. Factory ammo is loaded very weak because too many people try to shoot 7.92X57S (.323" bullet) through their Gewehr 88 rifles, which have a .318" bore, unless they have been re-arsenaled and proofed on the barrel with the "S" stamp. It seems that this is the reason for the lossin popularity with the 7.92 over here. A cartridge that is about on par with .30-06 is loaded to not much above .30-30 specs because people either were not informed of the different barrel size or didn't pay attention. Prvi Partizan (and if you can find it, RWS/DynamitNobel) are the only manufacturers of full-power 7.92X57 over here.

I heard of the really dreadfully downloaded 8x57IS in the US, can you get your hands on Sellier & Bellot (CZ) 8x57? This commercial ammo is loaded to the original WW2 specs, 196 grain at 2600 or so out of a 24'' barrel.
And thats only the service load, with Mauser 98 systems you can ignore the low max pressure ratings and go up to .308 pressure ratings (62K instead of 52K PSI), I can get up to 2750-2800 with 196 grainer's without any kind of excessive pressure signs. Thats 200fps off the .300 WinMag using the same bullet weight.
(Try at your own risk!)

 

[Kent]

Even though I totally disagree with Ferguson's politics, I do feel bad for him. I don't know if he's lying about forgetting that he was carrying a piece, but regardless, sounds like he is a decent guy who is committed to his community.

Having said that, I totally agree with Kent. Once you are busted with such offense, claiming that he had forgotten that he had a gun on him, or that he could have purposely carried a firearm into a restricted zone, and tried to get away with the offense, I think a discussion should take place if he should be allowed to keep his guns.

Personally, I'd give him a benefit of doubt & expect him to never do it again. But if he truly is some kind of idiot, what's next? Leave his gun unattended, and some kid gets hurt? Maybe he'll clean a loaded gun & blow his hand off by accident? The guy needs to respect his gun more, also the gun laws that he loves so frigging much!

Well that's really not going to be much of an issue considering his own law made his actions a felony and in turn he will be a felon once convicted (leaving him with no rights to gun ownership).
I wonder if he will then turn to illegal gun ownership and truly champion the ironic gun criminal.