Real Guns
- Thread starter Calibretto
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- Nottingham
- clouds-49
Sorry if it sounds dumb, but is reloading in this sense keeping the shell casing but adding more powder?
- 2,364
- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
Yep you reuse the brass and replace the primer and put new powder/bullet.
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- Nottingham
- clouds-49
Cheers mate.
- 19,311
- Inland Empire SoCal
- SOLID_LIFTERS
Store old brass. Polish brass in a brass polisher. Use reloading press with resizing/depriming die. Resize brass and press out the old used primer. Clean primer pocket and flash hole. Check length of brass and trim the mouth. Press in new primer. Use bell die to put a bell on the brass to accept new bullet. Put in new powder charge. Put in reloading press with a bullet seating die and press in new bullet. Check for round overall length. New round ready to go.
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- Nottingham
- clouds-49
Wow, does it take a lot of skill to do?
- 4,543
- Bay Area, CA
- Zenith113
To simply reload rounds is an investment. It is cheaper to reuse spent casings and buy bullets, powder and primers. Once the proper tools have been acquired its a case of X amount of cartridges reloaded until breaking even. Kinda like putting solar panels on your house.
For some people reloading is a way of finding the perfect cartridge for your gun/objective. The powder and bullet are two huge variables that can be tuned to the gun. For instance, faster burning powder works well in short barreled guns or guns firing low mass bullets. Bullets are tailored to different uses. Some bullets are designed to fly as straight as possible while others are designed to inflict damage on organic targets, great for hunters or for self defense use. The people who reload to fine tune ammunition both save money and get that last nth of performance out of their gun.
Does it take skill? Very much so for the second group, a little bit for the first. Fine tuning ammunition is very calculation intensive and time consuming. Whether or not it is worth it is up to the shooter. Both require a fair investment to get started.
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And I'd like to mention that if you shoot competitions its VERY unlikely you'll win if you don't have ammunition that is fine-tuned to your rifle. All the other competitors will fire their pet loads.
Probably the biggest difference between loaded ammunition and commercial ammo is the bullet seating depth. Commercial ammo will have bullets seated far deep in the case (min length) so ammo can be chambered in all sorts of guns, even those with very short chambers / throats. Freebore / bullet jump, however, - thats the distance the bullet travels freely from the case till it engages the rifling in the barrel has a huge effect on accuracy. The closer the bullet is seated to the rifling the more accuracy (and pressure) you're going to get. Why? The longer a bullet travels ''unguided'' the less straight it is going to enter the barrel, and it will stay un-concentric when it travels down the bore leading to inaccuracy.
Some rounds are more prone to free-bore than others, commercial loads of the .300 Winchester Magnum for example are REALLY short and almost unusable for anything other than hunting at medium ranges.
Another factor why people reload is when they shoot rifles chambered in obsolete calibers, if nobody makes that kind of ammo anymore you gotta roll your own. Brass is mostly available or can be formed from other brass.
Probably the biggest difference between loaded ammunition and commercial ammo is the bullet seating depth. Commercial ammo will have bullets seated far deep in the case (min length) so ammo can be chambered in all sorts of guns, even those with very short chambers / throats. Freebore / bullet jump, however, - thats the distance the bullet travels freely from the case till it engages the rifling in the barrel has a huge effect on accuracy. The closer the bullet is seated to the rifling the more accuracy (and pressure) you're going to get. Why? The longer a bullet travels ''unguided'' the less straight it is going to enter the barrel, and it will stay un-concentric when it travels down the bore leading to inaccuracy.
Some rounds are more prone to free-bore than others, commercial loads of the .300 Winchester Magnum for example are REALLY short and almost unusable for anything other than hunting at medium ranges.
Another factor why people reload is when they shoot rifles chambered in obsolete calibers, if nobody makes that kind of ammo anymore you gotta roll your own. Brass is mostly available or can be formed from other brass.
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- clouds-49
Thank you, very detailed
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- OREGON
- a6m5zero
@MidnightRider You were just curious about the process, right? I wonder how rare it'd be to find someone who actually reloads in UK!
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- a6m5zero
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- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
I've never looked it up on youtube before, but here's the only one I know about:
It actually look better in video(they are ugly in photos), but I don't know why they couldn't save the money & just license the frigging M4. I think the sidearm's typically Sigs anyway.
Yeah the Type89 has some missing features that are really helpful in a combat rifle like beveled or tapered mag well to help with loading, mags are a m16 pattern STANAG magazine but the have some extra part to active the bolt hold back. Also the Japanese mags have holes in them to see how many rounds are loaded but they let dirt and mud into them.
It does make no sense why they didn't just use the M4/16 pattern rifles most of their other equipment is American anyways.
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- Dagger31198
Me and my brother shot a Remington 870 last week, about dislocated our shoulders with that thing. Dad shot it no problem though.
I know nothing about guns except basic safety rules, but there's been some break-ins nearby, so we're learning to shoot straight. I always thought shotguns were point and shoot. Far from it.
I know nothing about guns except basic safety rules, but there's been some break-ins nearby, so we're learning to shoot straight. I always thought shotguns were point and shoot. Far from it.
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- OREGON
- a6m5zero
lol at the Type 89 mag holes.
Like you said, they use plenty of weapons & technology imported from the West anyway. Maybe the domestic main assault rifle thing was a big deal to them. I ran into this while looking at the type 89 video:
Sort of relieved to see Japan has some elite units. Absolutely child's play compared to what you see in the U.S., but they still make me little bit relieved about the defense of my home country.
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- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
I love their camo pattern being a former collector I would kill for set but I bet they are unobtainium in the states LOL.
I know a few folks that have worked with the JGSDF at Yakima Training Center and they say the JGSDF are pretty good. I would love to read about their Iraq deployment.
Great post! Michael88
I know a few folks that have worked with the JGSDF at Yakima Training Center and they say the JGSDF are pretty good. I would love to read about their Iraq deployment.
Great post! Michael88
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Dude, everybody knows Japan has lots of combat experience with giant slimy tentacle monsters and raging overinflated toads that can trample whole cities to bits! Japan has more elite skillz than all the other countries on earth combined.Sort of relieved to see Japan has some elite units. Absolutely child's play compared to what you see in the U.S., but they still make me little bit relieved about the defense of my home country.
I sure as hell know who to call when aliens invade and violate my personal space. 👍
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- a6m5zero
Well............... I don't know about you guys, but that is the most rifles I've ever seen in one picture. Jesus christ.
Some of the gear do look very cool.
I drove by Yakima once. Maybe there is a god, because that one time I drove right thru that town, I see a convoy of military hardware. They were all JGSDF, and it seemed like it was EVERY FRIGGIN THING they had, from their Toyota Mega Cruiser to Type 90 tank. They were being transported on semis with markings painted over(no Japanese flags). All drivers were U.S. Army, escorted by what looked like a local sheriff car. That was so 🤬 awesome. Even growing up in Japan, I never got see that much cool JSDF stuff so up close.
According to Guillermo del Toro.
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- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
Damn that must have been cool as hell. I do love seeing random military hardware even when I was in the Army is was fun seeing cool off just drive by.I drove by Yakima once. Maybe there is a god, because that one time I drove right thru that town, I see a convoy of military hardware. They were all JGSDF, and it seemed like it was EVERY FRIGGIN THING they had, from their Toyota Mega Cruiser to Type 90 tank. They were being transported on semis with markings painted over(no Japanese flags). All drivers were U.S. Army, escorted by what looked like a local sheriff car. That was so 🤬 awesome. Even growing up in Japan, I never got see that much cool JSDF stuff so up close.
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- Nicest part of hell
- 5,214
- Nicest part of hell
I guess it depends for which rifle you are reloading, ammo for a rifle with combat-grade accuracy and iron sights that you shoot a lot just to have a blast? Reloading for it wouldn't be very rewarding and trying to keep up with the ammo consumption would turn into a full-time job at the reloading table.
Ammo for a large caliber precision rifle? Totally worth it and fun!
And for the record, I DO buy commercial ammo for my guns if they really like a specific brand.
Ammo for a large caliber precision rifle? Totally worth it and fun!
And for the record, I DO buy commercial ammo for my guns if they really like a specific brand.
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