Real Guns

[Michael88]

I have zero attraction to the gun, but I am sorry to hear about the price. Still no interest in practical 9mm, .45ACP, etc.?

As much as I appreciate service pistols for their practicality I couldn't feel any less attracted to them.
I'd get one for personal protection if I was allowed to carry one for sure but other than that, they have no place in my hobby because I neither enjoy shooting them nor are they interesting from a technical point of view.

But different strokes for different people I guess.

 

[Swagger897]

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?651418-I-might-of-messed-up

How to piss off a boat-load of old men speedily typing behind a screen.

lol, I knew I'd make a few folks mad, but honestly this is priceless. My K98 is trash right now to be honest. Wood condition is bad, exterior barrel is pitted and needs to be blued, crown is shot, and it's not even a matching number K98. If I were to modify just one thing they'd all have an epiphany like now lol.

I like to restore things to a "like-new" condition, which I did so with my Mosin, and it turned out rather well. That one I wont be scoping (1925 Tula 91/30). This Mauser however needs it. Otherwise I don't expect it to be in shooting condition in another 100 years.

They can love their wall hanging guns all they want, which they'll never fire again because they think it's too precious, or they can go out and trade that for a piece of wall art, something just as useful and purposeful.

I'm now going to start a little document that will be a reply, to take all things into account of what's already been said in that thread and then they can sit on that and twirl if they want to. Aside from that, I couldn't be happier

 

[Michael88]

I totally get cleaning up and repairing guns that need it, even -or especially- for rifles that are rare and have a lot of collectors value. It can't be in anyones interest to have a valuable gun slowly deteriorate. It's called maintenance and thats a good thing, be it cars, expensive mansions or firearms. However, those that try to maintain collectible guns and ruin them in the process need to get their hands chopped off and fed to the dogs.

Having said that I would not drill and tap it simply because I think you'd be better off with an off-the-shelf Savage, Remington etc. Drilling the 98, installing a scope and the 98 rifle itself is more expensive than getting a new factory rifle that is already set up for a scope and gives you better accuracy in more practical calibers.
If you absolutely want a scoped 98 it does not make much sense to me unless you use periodically correct scopes and rings + bases. You'll simply end up with a half-modern half-WWII gun. But if thats what you want - more power to you, but for me thats not really a desirable firearm.

If I were you I'd carefully refurbish the K98k back to its original look (oiling the stock, get rid of rust, re-bluing it etc.) and enjoy it for what it is - an excellent WWII battle rifle. And then I'd get me a Savage or Remmy 700.
Or even better, a Marlin X7, those are super accurate and can be had for 400 bucks. A total sleeper.

 

[a6m5]

I'm no expert, but if the rifle really is as collectible as they claim, I totally see where they are coming from. When you own something scarce, rare, etc., I also believe the owner should consider the obligation to other collectors & the future generation of collectors.

Having said that, yeah, I think some of those posters lose total credibility with their childish statements("I know stuff, you must listen to me! P.S. I'm an idiot" lol), and in the end, it's a free country!

 

[Swagger897]

It's not as if there were intentions to lop off the first eight inches on the stock, completely shave it down and have the barrel lopped off as well. Those are the guys that deserve the harsh criticism. However, most of those guys seemed like complete tools. Over half wanted to be in some pompous way seem like they've been on the forum for ages by editing their joining date to Dec 1969 (It's clear as day bud, we can all see you trying to be cool, but I doubt 50% of the posters on that thread all joined at the same time).

Aside from all this, there's no way for any person to tell that holes have been filled in and the action reblued to look as if there was no drilling and tapping done without use of equipment. Even a trained eye cannot spot the difference.

That's not my intentions however, but that's not stopping anyone from doing it. My purpose in all of this was to have a better shooting Mauser. I don't prefer the iron sights, especially at range as the stock is... uncomfortable at best. There are a few ranges near me exceeding 100 yards, some up to 1000, and I'd like to take it there to test not only how well I can shoot, but how well and consistent my hand loads are too.

 

[David]

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[a6m5]

God darn it, Obama! Gift citizenships to people who came here legally first!

 

[Parker]

I've been thinking about conceal carry little bit lately. I don't know how much the permit cost, but I'd first need U.S. Citizenship to make that happen in the first place. When I researched it last, I think Citizenship cost around $800~$900(plus the written test, of course). Compact pistol, say a Glock would set me back $600(gun, background check, maybe another mag).

I could justify like one of those expenses, but both would be too much for me. Unless I could get a full market value for the HK USP..... I don't know.

Congrats! Sweet pistol. Grand master .22 plinker. 👍 Note: I do realize it's great for target shooting.

I have zero attraction to the gun, but I am sorry to hear about the price. Still no interest in practical 9mm, .45ACP, etc.?

I'm not sure how much background checks run as I've never had to get one to purchase a pistol, but you can get a Glock with at least two magazines for well under $600 if you don't mind purchasing used. My father has close to 400K rounds through his Gen 3 Glock 35 (his competition gun for many a year) and he has had nary a problem other than normal wear and tear so I wouldn't be worried about a used Glock. Plus it seems like most of the ones I see for sale only have a box or two of ammo run through them.

Personally though, for a conceal carry gun I'd go with either a Glock 19 or Glock 43. I carry my 43 every single day with an extra mag in my back pocket because it is so simple, easy and comfortable to conceal. If you're not comfortable, you're not going to carry and then you've just wasted your money, in my opinion.

 

[Brett]

And here are the pictures:

We made a trip to the range today because the weather somewhat cooperated. It was upper 50s, but very windy. It felt much colder than it actually was. We put 150 rounds through the Mark IV. Towards the end, I was really getting a feel for the pistol. I am looking forward to shooting it some more. It is going to take some time to get used to the sights. They are not what I am accustomed to using. I may need to get a replacement front sight or a rail section to mount a micro red dot on the thing. Speaking of rail sections, I need to get some blue Loctite and use it on the rail section on my 10/22. That thing has worked itself slightly loose again.

 

[a6m5]

When I see new post in this thread:

We made a trip to the range today because the weather somewhat cooperated. It was upper 50s, but very windy. It felt much colder than it actually was. We put 150 rounds through the Mark IV. Towards the end, I was really getting a feel for the pistol. I am looking forward to shooting it some more. It is going to take some time to get used to the sights. They are not what I am accustomed to using. I may need to get a replacement front sight or a rail section to mount a micro red dot on the thing. Speaking of rail sections, I need to get some blue Loctite and use it on the rail section on my 10/22. That thing has worked itself slightly loose again.

Rear sight on my Remington 597 has done that a time or two. Now I don't feels so horrible.

 

[Brett]

Rear sight on my Remington 597 has done that a time or two. Now I don't feels so horrible.

It is at least the second time it has happened.

 

[Snaeper]

First of all, I'm a slow poke and that CZ P10 is amazing.

I recently saw a CZ double barrell shotgun for sale used at a gun store in Scottsdale and drooled hard. They also had hex mosins drenched in cosmoline and a number of handguns I'd been looking for.

Ive held some full size glocks before and theure awful, but I recently discovered the 30S and got to hold it at the store and I've got to say its a tempting carry piece. The Walther PPS M2 and 2075 Rami BD are still favorites, too. Might stick to CZ's in the long run.

 

[Michael88]

I brought my handloaded shotgun slugs to the proof house to get velocity and pressure measured. Pressure is well within the specs of a standard 2 3/4 12 gauge shell and velocity is 1312 feet per second / 401 m/s producing 2485 ft/lbs.
Not bad for a 1 1/2 ounce load, huh?

And since I'm throwing around numbers how about that; recoil energy is 54 ft/lbs, thats nearly 4 times the recoil of a typical .308, but the recoil velocity of my 12 gauge is more than twice as high.

Just for kicks I'm going to buy some 3'' magnum shells and load it to magnum specs, I bet I can get it to 1500 fp/s while staying within the magnum pressure limits, giving me 3250 ft/lbs.

Reloading shotgun rounds is fun.

 

[a6m5]

Retired dude I used to work with stopped by work today. He put this round on my desk, which I've never seen before. I'm like, is this one of those weird FN round or something? It was actually a .357 SIG. Then he showed me his Glock in the IWB holster.

My work place is a gun free zone. I should have turned him in.

He said he also bought a Glock 19. Retired, with some money, into guns & cars. Must be nice!

 

[Brett]

I made a trip to the range yesterday since the weather was absolutely wonderful. I could not have asked for a better day to be out. The temperature was nice and there was little wind. I shot just the Ruger Mark IV and 10/22. This trip with the Mark IV was much better. I have a much better feel for the trigger and did a much better job hitting where I was wanting to. The pistol had some issues with the Remington Golden Bullets. I am not sure if it was just that particular box or if the gun just does not like Golden Bullets. The next trip I make I will be taking another box of Golden Bullets out to find out. I shot another box of Golden Bullets with the 10/22 and it had no problems with them. Looking back, I really should have tried the second box of Golden Bullets in the Mark IV to narrow down if it was just that particular box that had some issues. I would not be surprised if that was the case since Remington's quality control has not been the best.

 

[Michael88]

The pistol had some issues with the Remington Golden Bullets. I am not sure if it was just that particular box or if the gun just does not like Golden Bullets. The next trip I make I will be taking another box of Golden Bullets out to find out. I shot another box of Golden Bullets with the 10/22 and it had no problems with them. Looking back, I really should have tried the second box of Golden Bullets in the Mark IV to narrow down if it was just that particular box that had some issues.

I've heard that a lot of semi autos have trouble with the Remington brand rimfire ammo but sadly I cannot remember why. I recommend CCI ammo, same price (at least around here) but much better performance in pretty much all areas.

 

[Brett]

I've heard that a lot of semi autos have trouble with the Remington brand rimfire ammo but sadly I cannot remember why. I recommend CCI ammo, same price (at least around here) but much better performance in pretty much all areas.

I pretty much pick up CCI stuff whenever I can. I picked up some Mini Mags yesterday and wished I had bought a few more boxes; though, I am going back by today to see if they have more and will buy more if they do. I bought the Remington stuff because at the time, there was not many other options available.

 

[a6m5]

I started out with the Golden Bullets, but FTF I've had with them are countless. I'm still waiting for the first FTF to take place with the CCI. In my area, CCI do cost lot more.

 

[Blood Eagle]

It's because most .22s are blow back so use the powder charge to cycle the action. Remington bulk ammo like the Golden line aren't very consistent as they are super mass produced and low quality but cheap. CCI and more expensive brands are of better quality and consistency. I do however think cheap ammo is cool just not for cost effectiveness but good practice to be able to clear malfunctions like FTF and FTEs. I have some bad magazines that I use sometimes on friends and myself that are known to have issues just to practice lol. Not for self defense though.

 

[a6m5]

Yeah, I would wouldn't mind them for plinking.

 

[Brett]

I am pretty sure the Golden Bullets did not have enough powder to cycle the action on the Mark IV. Resetting the hammer requires a bit of a pull. Every time I had an issue with one, I am pretty sure that the hammer had not been reset. I should have paid closer attention. It would also explain why the 10/22 did not have any issues. Cycling the 10/22 could not be much easier.

 

[a6m5]

With Golden Bullets, I also get bad primer. They just wouldn't fire.

Not due to my hit & miss experience with those things, but solely due to(lack of)availability ever since Sandy Hook, I've buying almost exclusively CCI. They cost more, but they were actually on the store shelves at Walmart sometimes & as I said before, I never seem to have any misfire with them.

 

[Omnis]

Soooo one of the ranges 'round these parts has a sale on PPQ M1s and M2s for $475. 💡

A family friend got the PPQ 45 and holding it was like a dream. Perfect ergonomics. If only it were totally ambi. I like the buttons on the M2 better than the paddle now. Sucks now that I gotta wait for the CZ to come out. Hurry uppppp.

Unfortunately every person in south florida decided that the day after christmas they should go shooting. We didn't want to wait 3 hours to get on the range, so we're gonna retry on Thursday. Will report how it shoots. Also had a BUL Cherokee, a couple LMT rifles in 308 and 556, and a bunch of other cool stuff.

Basically, when your whole family's range day gets cancelled, everyone goes back to the house and compares dicks. That triggered the gunsafe emptying lol.

We shot some flower pots at the house too. I hate that Walther P22. It's so goddamn small I felt like I was doing chords on a guitar to fire it and work the controls.

 

[High-Test]

I used to have a 10/22 takedown and a turkish made 1911 in .45 auto.

Now I have a Marlin 336 in .30-30 and a Glock 43. I was tired of the 10/22 failing to eject once per magazine, and traded it in on the Glock. The 1911 I sold to a then-friend of mine. Thanks to lax Midwestern gun laws, I bought the .30-30 from a guy on armslist. We met in a quiktrip parking lot. One person came over and tried to buy it from me right then and there.

I was a decent shot with the 1911. I'm god awful with the Glock. I'm right-handed and left eye dominant. I can't close just my left eye. Only my right will do it. I've been told to switch to left-handed shooting. It feels odd. Plus, they're right-handed weapons.

Apologies for the old pics.

Any pointers?

Also, I took the .30-30 in to get the rear sling mount drilled. Two more people offered to buy it.

 

[a6m5]

I used to be able to buy from private party, but Oregon has now banned that. They are looking to ban the "high cap" magazines next. Idiots.

I did run into two men buying/selling in the parking lot couple of months ago. It was in the proximity of Pawn Shop with FFL, so I think they were doing it legally.

Also, I took the .30-30 in to get the rear sling mount drilled. Two more people offered to buy it.

It's amazing how popular lever actions are. They don't do anything for me, but lot of shooters are into it!

 

[Michael88]

It's amazing how popular lever actions are. They don't do anything for me, but lot of shooters are into it!

Lever actions are very cool firearms but I've never truly found a reason to go with a lever instead of a bolt action. - besides the traditional trapper flair which is a totally valid reason-. I had a Lever action .357 and one in .44mag and sold them both.

For ME a bolt action does everything a lever does, but better, except cycling speed. - But to be honest, with a very slick bolt I'm not giving up a whole lot in cycling speed.

Also maintenance is a big thing for me, and levers are notoriously difficult to disassemble compared to bolts.
I once disassembled a Winchester 92 type lever and while I'm very used to diss- and reassembling firearms- it took me 8 hours - I kid you not- to get the cross pin back into the bolt, a task which totally requires 3 hands. Also lots of small parts.

Thats just my reasoning, I'm not badmouthing Levers here in any way, Lever Action rifles are good rifles, they're time proven and many guides use .45-70 Marlin Levers for bear protection. I think its mostly a taste thing - I'm just perfectly happy with a military bolt action rifle.

 

[Obelisk]

Why not just go with a single or double barrel rifle/shotgun for absolute simplicity? Not a lot of moving parts there.

Don't think it needs to be said, but do not twirl a lever action like the Terminator. You will hurt yourself and endanger people.

 

[Michael88]

Why not just go with a single or double barrel rifle/shotgun for absolute simplicity? Not a lot of moving parts there.

Don't think it needs to be said, but do not twirl a lever action like the Terminator. You will hurt yourself and endanger people.

Ironically a bolt action like say the Mauser 98 System IS more reliable and simpler than any break action type rifle/shotgun. The locking mechanism of a break action isn't as simple as you might think and you can't take it apart in the field when something breaks.
Taking apart a break action type long gun to swap lets say the firing pin requires a vice, punches, a hammer, a spring vice and very good knowledge about firearms. IN contrast any illiterate backwoods farmer with a single digit IQ can take apart a Mauser 98 action in under 1 Minute.

 

[phillgt2002]

So, besides shooting a lot, how can a lefty shooter like me get to right shooting? Having read the poster who is left eye dominant and was suggested to shoot left side, I thought I'd make this post.

I throw my footballs with my left hand, I power kick in soccer with my left better and I shoot with my left hand.

I just realized how awkward it feels is after right side with my friend's Garand.

Any suggestions?

 

[Parker]

I don't think there is really much you can do other than slow down, remember the basics and practice shooting. A lot of the Officers at in-service find they actually shoot better with their off hand but I attribute that to them slowing down and focusing on the basics of shooting before firing. If they did that with their dominant hand I'm sure they'd shoot better with that hand.