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Just got my G17 back from the gun store, they coated the pistol, magazine funnel and compensator with cerakote in burnt bronze. (Took them long enough!!!) I also installed a Vortex venom on it.
I really like that setup. :dopey:

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Xavier2342
SWEET! That thing looks nice. Please don't ever get rid of this one.
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The G17 is probably the last gun I would sell, its not just my first pistol its also the gun I (comparatively) shoot best with and overall, a mid-size* 9x19 pistol is probably the most important gun you can own for a multitude of reasons. Also its hard to argue with a couple thousands rounds through it without a SINGLE malfunction. None whatsoever.

(* Its mid-size when I uninstall the comp, lol)
Brett
I want to buy another Glock. If I were to buy one, then I think I would probably pick up a G45 or G34.
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What Glocks do you already have? Maybe go for a new caliber?
 
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Michael88
The G17 is probably the last gun I would sell, its not just my first pistol its also the gun I (comparatively) shoot best with and overall, a mid-size* 9x19 pistol is probably the most important gun you can own for a multitude of reasons. Also its hard to argue with a couple thousands rounds through it without a SINGLE malfunction. None whatsoever.

(* Its mid-size when I uninstall the comp, lol)

What Glocks do you already have? Maybe go for a new caliber?
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My first gun that I bought was a Glock 19. I liked it, I really did. I did a bit of work to it (Ghost trigger 3.5lb connector, fiber optic + night sights, polished the feed ramp and internals for a smoother trigger and reset, put on some Talon Grips), but I just couldn't get solid groupings with it. Like out of 10 shots, I'd have 2 or 3 that were farther away than any of the others. I don't know what it was, I just couldn't be good enough with it, imo. So I sold it and bought a 1911. I can shoot it better than anything else I've shot and can get consistently better groupings with it. And the only thing I've done to it was polish the feed ramp (it came standard with tritium night sights). But I can pull it out and start banging away at targets and get decent groupings with it without warming up.

Still, I could definitely see another Glock in my future. Maybe one of the 10mm versions. But I also want a .357 Magnum, a .44 Magnum, and a 9mm.
 
BloodRaven
My first gun that I bought was a Glock 19. I liked it, I really did. I did a bit of work to it (Ghost trigger 3.5lb connector, fiber optic + night sights, polished the feed ramp and internals for a smoother trigger and reset, put on some Talon Grips), but I just couldn't get solid groupings with it. Like out of 10 shots, I'd have 2 or 3 that were farther away than any of the others. I don't know what it was, I just couldn't be good enough with it, imo. So I sold it and bought a 1911. I can shoot it better than anything else I've shot and can get consistently better groupings with it. And the only thing I've done to it was polish the feed ramp (it came standard with tritium night sights). But I can pull it out and start banging away at targets and get decent groupings with it without warming up.

Still, I could definitely see another Glock in my future. Maybe one of the 10mm versions. But I also want a .357 Magnum, a .44 Magnum, and a 9mm.
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Many people struggle a little with the Glock, a lot of my friends have had the issue of fliers at the 8-9 o'clock position. Its definitely a training issue, unfortunately many don't address this, they think its the gun and immediately sell it and get a competition-gun like CZ Shadow or a 1911. Good guns but they are missing the point. There is so many near-new Glocks on the used gun sector because of this very reason.

I've never had that issue because the Glock was my first handgun and I practiced relentlessly with it until I shot it well. What I can really recommend is to hold a Glock with a deathgrip, I find that fliers are often produced by a relaxed hand that changes grip (tightening) during firing, now if you hold it very tightly all the time your grip won't change during firing and the gun will stay pointed at the target correctly, plus even if you screw up the trigger pull a little it won't affect POI so much.
For some reason a tight grip seems to be more crucial with the Glock than with any other pistol I have ever shot, but once you do it correctly its no longer a problem.

For me, the Glock is the ultimate handgun, I had several handguns, 1911s, CZ's, H&K's, but I always end up selling them and get back to my Glocks. All the handguns I have owned jammed every once in a while for various reasons, but my Glocks never failed me even once. Once you get to know them and learn to shoot them well they can't be beat IMO; not as a service pistol.

As for the 10mm, its an excellent caliber. I've always really liked the Gen4 Glock 40, its a super-long slide (6'') 10mm. That's just so cool- :cool:

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Went to the 110yds rifle range for the first time in many months. Used my .308 155 grain SMK handloads and I'm pretty happy with the results, worked like a charm. Also, I've been shooting pistols exclusively for the past couple months, it was REALLY nice to feel and hear the roar and power of a good old .308 again.- :sly:

5 shots each and shot from the bipod, no sandbags.

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The results in this video are very insteresting. Definitely not what I expected.

Barrel Length (Inches)Velocity (FPS)
3.11,023
3.431,040
4.011,070
4.51,078
5.31,126
5.831,159
61,161
7.751,221
8.31,204
101,180
161,209
 
Steyr's first AR - style assault rifle intended to replace our Steyr AUG

It has lots of the AUG elements, flash hider, the optic and its a short stroke piston system.

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Very nice - how does she shoot? Since you have a threaded barrel, are you planning on adding a compensator? Are the sights tall enough for co-witness?
 
Michael88
Very nice - how does she shoot? Since you have a threaded barrel, are you planning on adding a compensator? Are the sights tall enough for co-witness?
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I have not been out to the range with it yet. I may try to go later today or maybe tomorrow. I am planning on adding a compensator, but I have not decided on one yet though. Shadow Systems will apparently be releasing one sometime in the near future. The cool thing about the Shadow System optic cut is pretty much everything but a Leopold Delta Point Pro will co-witness with the sights on it.

EDIT: I am probably not going to the range today. I mowed the yard earlier and the dust, dirt, and dormant grass is now trying to kill me.
 
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That's some really hot .44mag, and the coated hardcast looks like lipstick. :D
What are you going to launch them out of?

Speaking about magnum, just got my .357 back from the dealer, who had sent it back to the manufacturer, it had a weird trigger issue that I hope is fixed now.
 
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Ammo Envy!

I actually have no dog in this hunt, as my largest rifle is a .22, my largest handgun is a 9mm, and my largest shotgun is a 16-gauge. But seeing the prior images reminded me of this display at the Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin AFB near Ft. Walton Beach, Florida, displaying rounds used by various weapons in the Air Force (so no artillery or tank rounds.)

I posted the full-size image, so if you click on it you should be able to zoom in and read the labeling, but it ranges from a .17/.221 up to the 40mm used by the C-130 gunship.

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From what I've been able to find, the .17/.221 was experimental, back in the 70s, made to use the .221 Fireball cartridge but with a lighter projectile, looking for higher muzzle velocity. Apparently only 2500 rounds were ever made, and what's in the display here is a spent cartridge.

The 25mm caseless was for a gatling gun being developed to replace the 20mm Vulcan for use in the F-15, but the gun was unsuccessful and cancelled in 1975.
 
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My newest toy, recover 20/20 Brace. And before anyone mentions the front grip, where I live there is no law about SBRs and that sort of thing. Also its just a placeholder, I'll get me a magpul front grip.

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Xavier2342
@Michael88 dude that thing looks awesome. Have you shot it in that configuration?
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Yes....kind of. Went to the shooting range and forgot that it would close early today, I literally had only five minutes to load one 32 round magazine and to shoot it a little bit. I was in such a hurry I hardly remember what it felt like, lol.
But I do remember it had barely any recoil, the dot was just staying on the 25yds target, the front grip helped massively to keep the muzzle from rising.

Once thing that's really cool with it is that its just as good as any bigger SMG but its SO much lighter and smaller and maneuverability is off the charts. Folded down you could put it into a purse, or a little daypack.
 
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So I shot my Glock in the 20/20 stabilizer brace. First of all, the brace is very sturdy, does not flex, ergonomics is good and the pistol sits very tightly in the brace, there is no movement. Its does what it is supposed to do very well and I can recommend it.

Shot it standing at 25 meters and shot about a 4cm group and I was not trying hard, so its definitely possible to use it at 50 meters and probably beyond.

But I did not like it. Its not the braces fault, but I just did not enjoy shooting a pistol turned rifle that shoots only 9mm with more recoil than .223 and worse ergonomics than an actual rifle. Does it make the pistol more controllable and effective? It sure does! But...I already have rifles that do a much better job so why sacrifice one of my pistols to do the job of a rifle, but less effectively?
I took the Glock out of the brace and continued shooting it as a pistol and enjoyed it much more.

Guess pistols should remain pistols and not be turned into diet-rifles. Same as rifles that are shortened and stockless to become bad pistols. Both is silly.

I can totally see people enjoying it, but I am not one of them.
 
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