Real Guns

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Ah this sucks, out of the NBCs I trusted CNBC only and now I see this. I mean granted I only watch 60minutes on there when I don't get my CBS fix but still. I do question some bit of Remington, though they seemed to use more factual backing certain parts were still vague to a certain extent. I never planned to buy a R700 but still media slander due to political agendas is wrong. That is what I see from the CNBC program, a blatant attack on a gun icon from one of the most well known gum manufactures.

The average viewer that might own a gun, may question after their program, is my weapon safe? Or other similar questions.

A semi-auto assault rifle is what I call a rifle.

A bit like saying "It's a three-wheeled bicycle except with two wheels."

Edit: Also, I found a clip.

To be technical Zenith, that sir is a paper clip.

 

[a6m5]

I do feel the same on this particular story, 'Zona(my name for you lol). After seeing it, I definitely want to see the original story by CNBC, though I can't help but to feel very negatively toward it already.

After hearing about this 700 rifle defect for a year or so, it is quite shocking to see that they had never even been able to prove(or duplicate) one single case.

 

[Lizard]

I don't care about clips/magazines nor scopes/ holographic sights/red dots. My only beef is people calling a gun like an AR an "assault rifle."

And nice shooting, A6. Glad the Kimber has worked well for you so far.

My problem is many people round here call the AK47 a machine gun

 

[a6m5]

I used to be guilty of that one, too.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

My problem is many people round here call the AK47 a machine gun

The media still do. And everything is an AK47 or RPG.

A 500lb bomb blows up an enemy position in the background "As you can see behind me, there is intense incoming gunfire, including RPGs."

WTEff.

 

[VspecZR1GT2RS89]

That's why you don't believe what the media tells or shows you.

 

[Solid Lifters]

The media still do. And everything is an AK47 or RPG.

A 500lb bomb blows up an enemy position in the background "As you can see behind me, there is intense incoming gunfire, including RPGs."

WTEff.

That's why you don't believe what the media tells or shows you.

 

[Jedi2016]

Sad but true.. lol.

 

[a6m5]

I like that AK-47 with four doors and a roomy trunk.

 

[Michael88]

Double post - see next page.

 

[Michael88]

I like that AK-47 with four doors and a roomy trunk.

Roomy trunk! Forget flashlights and bipods, now thats a tactical feature I want on my guns!
Ran out of ammo? Just reach into your guns trunk and get out 10 fresh magazines! And a mountain dew!

 

[a6m5]

Kidding aside, I like those survivalist guns. They have compartment(s) for extra batteries, ammo, cleaning kit, etc. Very handy!

 

[Michael88]

I like stock pouches!

Unfortunately I can only find cheap Chinese crap pouches around here that self-destruct in a matter of a few weeks, I'd have to order overseas to get some quality ones like Blackhawk etc.

 

[a6m5]

Aren't they just Blackhawk Chinese crap?

I don't like pouches, or that stuff that holds 12-gauges shells on the shotguns, but in a survival situation, if you have to carry a lot of stuff, the extra storage space they create can be lifesavers.

I use my Maxpedition Versipack whenever I go shooting. It holds my ammo & clips magazines, keeps my hands free for the guns. Also has compartment for a pistol(little short for my 1911).

 

[Zenith]

I don't see why I would want to carry cleaning kits, batteries, lube, etc. on my gun. It just makes it harder to hold for extended periods of time.

The only exceptions I can think of are if you're trying to balance the gun or carry shotgun shells on one of those holders.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I don't see why I would want to carry cleaning kits, batteries, lube, etc. on my gun. It just makes it harder to hold for extended periods of time.

The only exceptions I can think of are if you're trying to balance the gun or carry shotgun shells on one of those holders.

I agree. I tried one of those stock pouches on my compact .308 and I didn't like it at all. The pouch kept hitting me in the face and I HATED that. I like nothing but the stock to touch my face.

 

[a6m5]

Yeah, touching my face, or even affecting my grip when handling the firearm, I wouldn't like that.

I don't see why I would want to carry cleaning kits, batteries, lube, etc. on my gun. It just makes it harder to hold for extended periods of time.

The only exceptions I can think of are if you're trying to balance the gun or carry shotgun shells on one of those holders.

I still think it would be a nice feature on a survival gun. Although I don't like pouches or shell holders(like seen on shottys), I can see them being useful on treks requiring you to carry a lot of stuff.

I finally bought some ammo today:

Remington's Megapack was $96.97(250 rounds), and Winchester's cheapo hollow point was $29.97 for the 50 round box. Both really good deals, at Walmart of course.

Winchester hollow point has some metal sleeve inside, instead of the regular bond stuff I usually see in hollow points.

Not really impressed with the slits in the jacket, and I do sort of question the actual expansion, but taking in the larger .45 caliber into account, I'm not really worried about it. It will still 🤬 you up.

 

[Icarus25]

$100 for 250 rounds of .45 sounds like a darn good deal. Glad you like that 1911. I had the same reaction as you the first time I shot one. Kept thinking "man, this .45 is going to be rough." Turned out to be one of the most pleasant experiences I've had. I could have fired mag after mag. Compared to the .40 I shot right after which left my arm aching after about 12 rounds. Though I have a strange sense I posted this many, many pages ago when discussing caliber choice.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Yeah, touching my face, or even affecting my grip when handling the firearm, I wouldn't like that.

I still think it would be a nice feature on a survival gun. Although I don't like pouches or shell holders(like seen on shottys), I can see them being useful on treks requiring you to carry a lot of stuff.

I finally bought some ammo today:

Remington's Megapack was $96.97(250 rounds), and Winchester's cheapo hollow point was $29.97 for the 50 round box. Both really good deals, at Walmart of course.

Winchester hollow point has some metal sleeve inside, instead of the regular bond stuff I usually see in hollow points.

Not really impressed with the slits in the jacket, and I do sort of question the actual expansion, but taking in the larger .45 caliber into account, I'm not really worried about it. It will still 🤬 you up.

I love those .45 rounds! Ever do any ballistic testing with them? I'd like to see what they look like.

 

[a6m5]

$100 for 250 rounds of .45 sounds like a darn good deal. Glad you like that 1911. I had the same reaction as you the first time I shot one. Kept thinking "man, this .45 is going to be rough." Turned out to be one of the most pleasant experiences I've had. I could have fired mag after mag. Compared to the .40 I shot right after which left my arm aching after about 12 rounds. Though I have a strange sense I posted this many, many pages ago when discussing caliber choice.

You might have, I don't remember either.

10mm fanboy at work has told me two things about the .40 S&W: 1) It's a shorter 10mm. 2) Has superior penetration than most handgun rounds.

On the .45 being so easy to shoot with 1911's I'm guessing they have to do with it's weight, grip angle, and also the size of the grip(single stack on mine). I loved how it shot.

I love those .45 rounds! Ever do any ballistic testing with them? I'd like to see what they look like.

Not a chance! If I had a truck, or accessible shooting area maybe, and even if I did, I'll screw it up. I tried to find a picture or something on it, but this is all I found:





Edit:

I found the vid on the same bullets, but: 1) It's in older packaging. 2) I don't think this has metal slleve found in mine:



Edit 2:

OK, this one for sure. Again, older packaging, but I think I see the metal sleeve instead of that gel/silicone-looking bond inside:

 

[Michael88]

I don't see why I would want to carry cleaning kits, batteries, lube, etc. on my gun. It just makes it harder to hold for extended periods of time.

If you don't have the time to get your survival bag etc. and you can only grab your gun having a cleaning kit in the stock pouch is a huge plus. A gun doesn't last very long without maintenance.
I had a stock pouch on one of my guns and its weight (about 12 oz) actually helped the balance of the rifle and made it easier to hold it standing with no support.

10mm fanboy at work has told me two things about the .40 S&W: 1) It's a shorter 10mm. 2) Has superior penetration than most handgun rounds.

And it has more Energy than both the 9mm and .45ACP. Love the .40, but its recoil is snappy.

 

[a6m5]

I like the smooth shooters anyway!

More I'm exposed to the 9mm vs .45ACP stuff, more I learn about the "Pro's" to each caliber. Today, way I see it is that there is a right caliber for everybody. For some people, even a mini-pistol with .22LR might be the best bet.

Between say .38 Special to 10mm, .357 or .44 Magnum or whatever, I think people should just pick whatever they want their round to excelt at(penetration, stopping power, etc.) at the power they can handle.

I'm glad I got started with the 9mm though. Ammo was cheap, and I got to practice without the prices hurting my wallet. That Remington 250 round Megapack went from near $50(9mm, $51.99) to now almost $100(.45ACP, $96.97).

I finally painted the front sight on my Kimber today. I was shopping for glow in the dark paint, but they are not any brighter than the regular paint when you want to use it anyway. I didn't realize this until one reviewer on Amazon noted that your gun's gonna be in the case, or in the dark, so it won't be able to absorb & recharge for it to glow.

For this "project" *ahem* I used:

1) Cellophane from an envelope window and scissors
2) Plastic model paint & brush
3) Masking tape

I like the "revolver" style sights this gun came with, and being able to adjust it at the range was just kick butt. My only dislike was the black metal(front) on black metal(rear) made it hard to line up in a hurry, especially in the dark, or on darker background. Red paint worked great.

Now watch them just come off after I clean my gun the next time.

 

[Michael88]

The sight picture looks much MUCH better now, nice job.
Just an idea: maybe you could add a layer of phosphorous paint to make the front sight glow in the dark. Now that would be cool....

 

[a6m5]

The sight picture looks much MUCH better now, nice job.
Just an idea: maybe you could add a layer of phosphorous paint to make the front sight glow in the dark. Now that would be cool....

Thanks, and I was looking into the glow-in-the-dark paint(it was in my post! lol). However what I found was:

1) Most of them seems to be just white-ish during the day(not very bright).

2) The gun will be stored in the dark, like in a case, so when I need to use it, it will not glow anyway. It wouldn't have the chance to recharge the light.

I love this sight. I just can't believe how hard the black/black sights makes it hard to line up quickly. Just one super simple red paint job on the front sight makes it so much more effective it's not even funny!

Here's the better picture of the painted sight:

 

[Brett]

Now you just need to go test the effectiveness of the new sight. Another range trip is in order.

 

[a6m5]

Now you just need to go test the effectiveness of the new sight. Another range trip is in order.

Now you are talking baby! :tup:

Guys has been bugging me to take them to the range I found in Washington, so if not this next weekend, we will probably go the following weekend.

I plan to test the gun with the hollow point as well. It came with some, but it was just a box of 20, so I didn't use it. I'll try some of the Winchester hollow point I just bought. Hopefully it won't have any feeding problem with those.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Now you are talking baby! :tup:

Guys has been bugging me to take them to the range I found in Washington, so if not this next weekend, we will probably go the following weekend.

I plan to test the gun with the hollow point as well. It came with some, but it was just a box of 20, so I didn't use it. I'll try some of the Winchester hollow point I just bought. Hopefully it won't have any feeding problem with those.

Soak a couple of phone books, about five or six depending how thick they are, in water overnight. That way you can 'read through' the pages and inspect the 'wound channel' and recover the bullet.

Oh, and great job on the front sight! I hope it lasts for you. Careful when you clean it.

 

[a6m5]

Soak a couple of phone books, about five or six depending how thick they are, in water overnight. That way you can 'read through' the pages and inspect the 'wound channel' and recover the bullet.

Well, only vehicle we take to shooting outdoor anymore is my buddy's Land Rover, so we don't have any room with the four, five of us, plus all the long guns, targets, etc.

Did you see the youtube video of the test though? One at the bottom? I love all the people who volunteer to test this stuff, then post the result on internet. Props to them. 👍

Oh, and great job on the front sight! I hope it lasts for you. Careful when you clean it.

Thanks man. I am. 👍

Which brings me to this, which I keep forgetting to bring up:


Militec-1

Have you guys used this stuff? I used this on my Glock 17 and it worked great. I'm not really sure how it works. I apply thin coat to all metal surface of the gun, maybe bit more to where there is contact, and just wipe off dry with a cloth.

I recently lost the bottle given to me, so I had to order another one. I hope it arrives soon, because I'm applying second coat to my 1911 as soon as it gets here!

 

[Zenith]

Here's a corrosion test I found. The pics below show the samples after three weeks of outside exposure combined with a salt spry misting.

That report above sounds like crap. Maybe it's just my natural hatred for 99% of journalists.

They interview..

A) A mother of a soldier who died and would have difficulty swallowing that her son could be partially responsible for his death. (RIP)

B) A man who seems to have an outdated understanding of the AR platform and lube. "It didn't work when I was a battalion commander and it isn't working now."

C) The creator of a competing product.

D) Some clueless Senator. Because the news always interviews clueless Senators.

E) Some grunts who (for all we know) could have no idea what they're talking about.

Not once do they talk to an Army or Marine armorer. Hell, even an LE armorer would've been fine.

Furthermore, CLP does not "attract" sand to a weapon. It makes it stick, just like any lubricant, oil, or viscous fluid. It doesn't matter what lube you use, government issue or Militec. It's more about the quantity used and where it is applied. That's what gun oil does.

Here's a test anyone can try. Get a bucket of sand. Cover one arm in water and leave the other one dry. Pour sand on both arms. Which one has more sand on it?

The Army is infamous for poor weapons training. They outfit their soldiers with Aimpoint Red Dots and only train them to shoot out to 300yds. The Marines train out to 500yds and are outfitted with magnified ACOG's. From a few friends I know, the Army also doesn't properly educate its soldiers about the importance of lubrication.

 

[Solid Lifters]

I use Eezox. Coat it on, wait a hour or two, wipe off. Simple. No sand will get 'attracted' to it since it is completely dry.

But, it's not much of a lubricant but I think it's OK as one. Problem is, it has a toxic additive in it. So toxic, our government is thinking of banning it in all products. That's why a lot of people don't carry it anymore.