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Not sure I understand your second question about 'pro' but there are pistol grips you can mount on the picatinny rail. I mounted a M4 style forend grip. The forend on my tactical shotgun is a Surefire M69 with various items attached.
Like any advantages that style foregrip? I couldn't think of one until just recently, does it improve the stability by any chance?
 
Like any advantages that style foregrip? I couldn't think of one until just recently, does it improve the stability by any chance?

The forend vertical grip? Yeah, several advantages.

1.) It's easier to use than the stand shotgun foregrip.

2.) More stable than the stand shotgun foregrip.

3.) Faster ammo recycling.

4.) Can be affixed so it's out of the way from other items.

5.) Position is user adjustable.

6.) It's modeled after AR style vertical gripes, which I use to.

7.) The grip can hold the Surefire light activating switch.

8.) The grip is hallow and can hold back-up light and EOTech batteries.

The only 'problem' I have with it is you cannot pull it inwards to make the shotgun aim stable. You have to push out. But, I almost never pull a forend grip inward to make the firearm stable. I always push outward, away from me.
 
I haven't actually watched the video yet. What size is it?

The photo shows a .700 bullet.

The gun in the video is probably a .577 Nitro Express (not sure though, different videos say different calibres), which is designed as an elephant gun, although I'm sure it'd work well on everything else:scared:

This is a .600 Handgun, the recoil on these things are insane!:ouch:
 
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That vid is insane.... Talk about a complete noob moment!

I went to Walmart again today.... twice. :P Went to one on the west side of town, one I've never been to before. Selection on ammo wasn't great, they didn't have that $51.99 250 rounds of 9mm. I picked up cheap Federal 12 gauge bird shot for $4 and some change, that was it. But later in the evening, I felt the urge to go look for that 250 round pack of 9mm, so I drove out to the one I usually go to, one that's like 40 minutes away. :D They had them, bought two, also box of 12 gauge buck shots, and box of magnum buck shots. I hope the magnums doesn't kick my shoulder too hard. :nervous::lol:
The forend vertical grip? Yeah, several advantages.

1.) It's easier to use than the stand shotgun foregrip.

2.) More stable than the stand shotgun foregrip.

3.) Faster ammo recycling.

4.) Can be affixed so it's out of the way from other items.

5.) Position is user adjustable.

6.) It's modeled after AR style vertical gripes, which I use to.

7.) The grip can hold the Surefire light activating switch.

8.) The grip is hallow and can hold back-up light and EOTech batteries.

The only 'problem' I have with it is you cannot pull it inwards to make the shotgun aim stable. You have to push out. But, I almost never pull a forend grip inward to make the firearm stable. I always push outward, away from me.
As always, appreciate the tips. 👍

I'm considering getting one, but I don't know if vertical style will actually make the "pump" action easier for me. And if I do decide to get one, looks like I have a lot of homework to do deciding on getting the right model. For starters, one with the flashlight mount would be nice, as my 870 didn't come with one. It would definitely look better with the vertical foregrip for sure.

Edit: Forgot to tell you guys, my buddy took me to a surplus store today, right before going to Walmart. Do they all smell bad or what? :P I just bought one of those Army shell boxes. It was $14.99. I knew the place was bit overpriced going in, so I wasn't really gonna buy anything. Are these places worth the look? If so, I might check out others, see if their prices, selection's any better.
 
I have shot the magnums one handed with a pistol grip 12 gauge with no problem, I think you will be ok :)
 
Been told that I need to hold the gun tighter. Tight, while keeping the arm loose? :confused:


When shooting a shotgun one handed I have found it best for me to hold it tight in my hand of course, but to keep my arm a little loose so the kick can just absorb through my arm and not fight the kick.
 
Exactly.

I understand where EmptySoul's coming from, because I'm originally from Japan. I remember seeing the movie Gremlin as a kid, and in the film, there was real firearm on display inside a department store. The concept was unbelievable, as firearms do not enter the lives of Japanese people unless you are a police officer, military, etc. I think it was especially shocking to me as a boy, because I was a big fan of war films, toy guns, etc.

Like Bruther noted, Walmart just carries rounds suited for target practice. Which is just fine with me, because my main use for the guns are recreational. I did find a 9mm hollow point, which I did pick up a box of, but it was unusual to see one there, and it was bottom grade model(around $16, Winchester).
When shooting a shotgun one handed .....
Yeah, not doing that. :lol:
 
I remember a time when Sears sold handguns.

They don't sell any guns anymore, do they? Our local Fred Meyer stores used to sell long guns when I first came here in '87. No longer the case with them, but it might've been more to do with the ownership change than trying to be politically correct.

I recently joined a membership store called Bi-Mart. They supposedly have lower prices on ammunition. I guess I should check them out sometime, huh? :D
 
I did find a 9mm hollow point, which I did pick up a box of, but it was unusual to see one there, and it was bottom grade model(around $16, Winchester).

What JHP rounds do you usually use/keep for home defense?

Of the JHPs I've shot, Corbon would be my go-to's.
 
What JHP rounds do you usually use/keep for home defense?

Of the JHPs I've shot, Corbon would be my go-to's.
I still need to buy the good stuff.

Currently, I have just two types. That Winchester cheapie I picked up Walmart, also a Magtech something.

I did pick up hollow point slug for my shot gun though. :D
 
Yeah, not doing that. :lol:



Eheheh... I did that with a 12 gauge, not the best idea ever... thing damn nearly hit me in the face(hit my ear, though.:ouch:)

I'm getting an old German military rifle soon, from a friend, no idea what ammo it takes, though. also, I'm going to see if it's possible to get a custom-made needlegun, probably gas-propelled. basically, imagine a typical nailgun with the safety lockable, and firing normal nailgun nails. My grandpa has an old flintlock, handed down from his grandpa, who was in the civil war.
 
It about hit you in the face? Man, I have shot slugs out of my shortened, pistol gripped 12 gauge with no problems, one handed. He actually bought all types of shot and we tried all of them out, didn't have a problem with any of them one handed really.
 
Talking about BIG guns:

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Mein Führer, be prepared to give your enemies the epic facepalm:ill:
 
It about hit you in the face? Man, I have shot slugs out of my shortened, pistol gripped 12 gauge with no problems, one handed. He actually bought all types of shot and we tried all of them out, didn't have a problem with any of them one handed really.

come on, it was my first time single-hand shooting the damn thing, how was I supposed to know how much recoil would hit me?

also, the custom needler idea, I sent in to Red Jacket Firearms.
 
It about hit you in the face? Man, I have shot slugs out of my shortened, pistol gripped 12 gauge with no problems, one handed. He actually bought all types of shot and we tried all of them out, didn't have a problem with any of them one handed really.
He's probably also half your size. Most people are. :lol:
It's a Davy Crockett what? :lol:

If the propellant on the thing fail, it will suck.....
I'm getting an old German military rifle soon, from a friend, no idea what ammo it takes, though. also, I'm going to see if it's possible to get a custom-made needlegun, probably gas-propelled. basically, imagine a typical nailgun with the safety lockable, and firing normal nailgun nails. My grandpa has an old flintlock, handed down from his grandpa, who was in the civil war.
You gotta post a pic of the rifle when you get it. Sounds awesome. 👍 I couldn't begin to imagine what needlegun would look like....
 
Question: When you purchase new a new handgun, do you typically need to oil it and prep it before you shoot the first round, or does it come from the factory ready-to-shoot?
 
I wouldn't leave it to the factory myself, but it should be ready to go. But I would prep it first just to make sure.
 
Question: When you purchase new a new handgun, do you typically need to oil it and prep it before you shoot the first round, or does it come from the factory ready-to-shoot?

You should give it a good cleaning and relubricate with a quality oil.

New guns are shipped in what is described best as packing grease. Gun can theoretically sit in a warehouse inventory and then a store shelf for a year or more prior to finding an owner.

Don't use CLP products! They don't clean very well, don't lubricate very well, and don't protect very well...they're the proverbial "all-season tire".

Use a proper cleaner (Hoppe's ) and a good oil.
 
I've fired my guns without oiling first. I did first check them to make sure they were lubricated though. Didn't know that factory oil might not have been adequate.

I have recently applied Rem Oil on my 870 Shotgun. It's supposed to clean & lubricate.
 
I was always taught the first thing you do is break down the weapon and clean it --learn how it operates --how to un jam it --remove the slide , magazine . So natuaraly part of this would include a cleaning and oiling ..it is a firarm and if something wasn't assembled correctly or its not clear--it can burst and fragment at worse --or just jam or bend your mag or feed --So why not take the time to be familiar with what you will shoot ? Some jams --or even a bad round --will require you know how to break the weapon down anyway , May as well get some pratice.
 
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