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Ah, I didn't realize that you were joking about the body building competition.

Bru, have you ever had issues shooting reloaded rounds in your H&Ks? a6m5, how about you with the Glock? Any issues with shooting reloaded rounds?
 
Yeah, the "Gun Show" joke. I shouldn't have had to explain that one! :crazy: :D

I've shot just one type of reloads, one my coworker hooked me up with. I've also shot many different types of ammo, mostly cheap bargain target rounds. Not one hiccup so far. One of the guy I went shooting with though, his Generation 2 Glock did malfunction on a reload(supplied by the same guy), and it hasn't worked the same since. He suspects that problem was with his gun though, not the reloaded ammo. His was a .45, I have a Generation 3 9mm.
 
Ah, I didn't realize that you were joking about the body building competition.

Bru, have you ever had issues shooting reloaded rounds in your H&Ks?
a6m5, how about you with the Glock? Any issues with shooting reloaded rounds?

The most common reloads I've found in .45 is lead ammo. Non-jacketed rounds in an HK is a big no-no. The jacketed reloads I have come across were only a few bucks cheaper per 100ct than Winchester white box or Remington range rounds...not worth the risk if you ask me.
 
I installed one of these on the pistol grip of my 870 Shotgun today:


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It's a Hogue grip sleeve. Very grippy, rubbery stuff. I saw a guy install one on youtube, same tactical 870, with same Knoxx stock, so I tried it out.

It's really nice, except it covers only about three-fifth of the front of the grip. I like how the rubber feels(get your mind out of the gutter), but with so much exposed area left out, it feels awkward when I grip. It claims to help with recoil reduction, so I will give it a shot.

Any 'real gun' owners from the UK here?
Good luck with that. :lol:
 
So I went into Gander Mountain last weekend, looking for jackets, when I made the mistake of checking out the firearms section. Now, I've been wanting a black rifle for a while, never expected to just walk in and fall in love...

I picked up an M&P 15-22 Smith&Wesson.
.22LR
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I wanted a flat top receiver with full length rail, it's got that.
I wanted something fun and cheap to shoot, it exceeds doing that.
I also wanted something with the ability to modify somewhat, and no, that does not mean lasers and crazy tacticool stuff, basically just rails to mount holosights and bi-pods to, so again I'm covered.

It's got a heavy barrel for a rimfire, I went out to test it the other morning, and after going through 250rnds in roughly 30 minutes, the barrel was warm, but not hot. I had one feed failure, but that was my fault, my finger stopped the follower from pushing the next round up all the way, so the bolt missed it. Being a little more mindful of where my hand is on the magazine/magwell, it didn't happen again.

The sights were extremely easy to adjust, and took only a small increase in elevation to get them in the right spot. The same went for the holosight I mounted on top of it. Safe to say the cans never stood a chance, it's excellent fun, walking and plinking away at them, the rifle being so light, and recoil nonexistent, it was almost effortless.

All the functionality of a full caliber AR is still present in it, from feild stripping, to the bolt release, it's the same animal, just simplified as it's a blowback rifle. It slings brass further than and AK though, it was tossing them 10 feet or more at times.

Anyhow, it's not much more than a toy, but a really fun one, and so much less painful (on the wallet) to shoot than my big bore centerfire auto-loaders. I'm really looking forward to the next time I can get back out with it.
 
They are pretty sweet looking. Don't they usually go for around $400?

I also thought they would be fun "toy" type gun to play around with. As you said, they are super cheap to shoot, and it looks very cool & fun. Sounds like it's super reliable, too. 👍

I have a Remington 597 right now, and while I don't care for it at all, I can't justify getting rid of it to shell out a full price on another "22". :crazy: My next gun should be a rifle, but it would most likely be a AK47(Romanian), or .223 caliber M4. I love the low cost & reliability of AK's, but damn, M4 just looks too damn sweet. :P My #1 pick would be SCAR, but I could never afford to spend that kind of money on an assault rifle.
 
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So I went into Gander Mountain last weekend, looking for jackets, when I made the mistake of checking out the firearms section. Now, I've been wanting a black rifle for a while, never expected to just walk in and fall in love...

I picked up an M&P 15-22 Smith&Wesson.
.22LR
mp1522.png

I wanted a flat top receiver with full length rail, it's got that.
I wanted something fun and cheap to shoot, it exceeds doing that.
I also wanted something with the ability to modify somewhat, and no, that does not mean lasers and crazy tacticool stuff, basically just rails to mount holosights and bi-pods to, so again I'm covered.

It's got a heavy barrel for a rimfire, I went out to test it the other morning, and after going through 250rnds in roughly 30 minutes, the barrel was warm, but not hot. I had one feed failure, but that was my fault, my finger stopped the follower from pushing the next round up all the way, so the bolt missed it. Being a little more mindful of where my hand is on the magazine/magwell, it didn't happen again.

The sights were extremely easy to adjust, and took only a small increase in elevation to get them in the right spot. The same went for the holosight I mounted on top of it. Safe to say the cans never stood a chance, it's excellent fun, walking and plinking away at them, the rifle being so light, and recoil nonexistent, it was almost effortless.

All the functionality of a full caliber AR is still present in it, from feild stripping, to the bolt release, it's the same animal, just simplified as it's a blowback rifle. It slings brass further than and AK though, it was tossing them 10 feet or more at times.

Anyhow, it's not much more than a toy, but a really fun one, and so much less painful (on the wallet) to shoot than my big bore centerfire auto-loaders. I'm really looking forward to the next time I can get back out with it.

Those things are finally California legal, so I'm going to get one I think. Can't resist another fun-to-shoot .22 rifle.


How does a 22lr compare to a 9mm? That is a nice looking gun.

How so? Terminal ballistics, accuracy, cost of shooting, etc.
 
All of the above. I know there are many companies that make 9mm carbines such as keltec and others. Would this be a better option?
 
All of the above. I know there are many companies that make 9mm carbines such as keltec and others. Would this be a better option?

Not for cost. .22lr is supper cheap to shoot. 9mm not so much. You are looking at a cost difference of $20 500 rounds of .22 and about $10 for 50 rounds of 9mm reloads.

Self defense, it's 9mm. It's your only home defence option of the two.

Accuracy, it's the .22lr without a doubt. That's why they're so fun to shoot.
 
What makes 9mm so much better for home defense? Is the 22 only for small game hunting? I'm just curious home defense isn't my primary interest right now.
 
What makes 9mm so much better for home defense? Is the 22 only for small game hunting? I'm just curious home defense isn't my primary interest right now.

It's .355 inch diameter compared to .22 inch. Bigger is always better. Plus, the weight of the bullet. 9mm is 115 to 147 grains and .22 is 35 to 60 grains. More weight means deaper penetration and more energy. Better terminal performance.

I do not reccomend .22 for personal defence. It's just too slow. But, it is possible. But head shots or shots to the heart are gritical.
 
It would have to be really small animal, if you plan to hunt with a .22. And if you want to use .22 gun as a weapon, you'd have to be a skilled shooter. For self-defense, I'd think you'd have to be highly skilled. Maybe even lucky to a certain point.

As for 9mm carbines, I've been told that 9mm just isn't good rifle rounds, as they lack accuracy at distance. I was considering 9mm carbine before I found that out. 9mm might cost more than a .22LR, but they are much cheaper than most rifle rounds, maybe with a exception of .223/5.56mm.

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Full-auto.... :drool:
 
I'm aware of 9mm being a pistol caliber. Thats why I was wondering how far .22 out performs it. Out of curiosity whats an average price for .223?

If I were to buy a gun it would have to be cheap both in purchase price and ammo cost. Looking around it seems like I could get one for the cost of a handgun I was considering. That gun even looks good to boot.
 
I'm aware of 9mm being a pistol caliber. Thats why I was wondering how far .22 out performs it. Out of curiosity whats an average price for .223?

If I were to buy a gun it would have to be cheap both in purchase price and ammo cost. Looking around it seems like I could get one for the cost of a handgun I was considering. That gun even looks good to boot.
What is it? Saiga or something?

I haven't checked out the .223 prices, but I could swear, from what I've seen locally, they are just bit more than the 9mm's, which is very good.

My oldtimer coworker tells me to avoid the round though. He hates assault rifles, and says good bolt-action will outperform any semi-automatic AK's or M4's. :lol:

Edit: .223 Prices from cheaperthandirt.com

Edit2: Another reason to buy a 12-gauge...
 
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Whats what? Isn't Saiga a shotgun? I was only ever looking at a handgun before. That CZ was about 500-600 which seems to be about what you can get that 15-22 for. Seeing as I can't carry a handgun in this state a rifle would make more sense I think for target shooting which is what I originally wanted the handgun for.
 
Whats what? Isn't Saiga a shotgun? I was only ever looking at a handgun before. That CZ was about 500-600 which seems to be about what you can get that 15-22 for. Seeing as I can't carry a handgun in this state a rifle would make more sense I think for target shooting which is what I originally wanted the handgun for.
Saiga makes .223 rifle, I thought you might be after something similar.

For $600, you could buy a Sig 9mm Vash/Brett was talking about, plus a shotty. Did you see the 12-gauge slug go right through the bullet resistant glass? You could drop a bear with those things! :lol:
 
I have no interest in owning a shotgun though.
It's cool as hell. They have so many uses, and so many different types of shells. Buckshot is really cool(& scary), but slugs, I'm really fascinated by. :P

Where would you go for target shooting? Range, or woods?
 
I live in the city so I'd have to find a range. I'm not sure we even have one here but then again we don't have many woods either.
 
I live in the city so I'd have to find a range. I'm not sure we even have one here but then again we don't have many woods either.
I'm not exactly downtown, but I have to drive for like an hour to spot where we could shoot. I've never been to a range. I wish I was in downtown. I could probably shoot in North Portland, and no one would notice.
 
Well I don't know anyone with any property I could shoot on without getting shot myself...
But you will have a gun, too! j/k

We drive to public land. I think that means the State owns it, but I'm not sure, I'm not from around here. :P There are bunch of spots off the logging roads where we can shoot. What sucks is that these roads aren't exactly paved, so I can't take my car to go shooting. I have to wait until one of my friends with SUV or truck's ready to go. There is a really good chance that my next vehicle will have some ground clearance.
 
I'm aware of 9mm being a pistol caliber. Thats why I was wondering how far .22 out performs it. Out of curiosity whats an average price for .223?

If I were to buy a gun it would have to be cheap both in purchase price and ammo cost. Looking around it seems like I could get one for the cost of a handgun I was considering. That gun even looks good to boot.

If you just want something for target, .22LR bolt action would be your best bet, though saying that, have you considered an air rifle? They're accurate out to around 50 or so yards once you learn how to shoot them.

Dosent come alot cheaper than that
 
I have one. Its a waste. It looks cool and I can shoot it in the back yard without getting arrested. In fact I've only used it once and now its not working. It was a pretty big waste. I've been thinking about selling it.
 
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