Reverse Game Confirmed or highly probably in GT5 (or maybe not)!

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In your opinion. Don't come in here pushing that you know what he meant. I see "automatic braking" in that interview as well. It doesn't get much more simple than that to know he's referring to a feature that brakes for you.

Exactly. If the automatic braking feature is there, then Rewind may be there as well.
 
No I honestly didn't think it would be in GT5... this totally catches me by surprise too... right along with autobraking... heck even the move to put damage on all cars caught me by surprise!

The difference was I never made claims that that I know KY and I know what he thinks and I know GT and where it will go and I never claimed a GTP poll was a dfinitive source for what would happen in GT5 and I never said that things to make GT5 more accessible to casuals (ie a bigger market) would be left out to cater to the hardcores need to feel pure... I didn't think it would be in GT5 but I never tried to give flawed arguments or opinion stated as fact to prove it wouldn't be.

Basically I didn't think it would be in, but a lot of people were positive it wouldn't and listed assumptions as facts for why it wouldn't be... well it's really looking like all those who were called out for using (often flawed) opinion, speculation and rants as fact were indeed way out there.

Why does it come as a surprise even to you? Because GT never was a game to have such kind of features. I believe it was reasonable to assume it would remain that way, which is why I pointed out it was something Kazunori wouldn't include in the game. Well, I'll remember to point out it's something Kazunori isn't likely to include in the game whenever the situation calls for it again.

We will see if and how it will be in the game but I keep my opinion. It shouldn't be in GT in the same way it is in Forza. Doesn't fit the game that way. It has to be worked on before it can be included without some nasty side effects.
 
In your opinion. Don't come in here pushing that you know what he meant. I see "automatic braking" in that interview as well. It doesn't get much more simple than that to know he's referring to a feature that brakes for you.

Exactly, it just as easily means you have rewind and you have uploadable ghost cars.
 
You called the bet off yourself when it seemed rewind was unlikely...:)

No I didn't... I just reminded you I have forever and you only have until GT5 releases :) Go ahead and take a look... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3566831&postcount=203

Rewinding is cheating, and because of this, Kaz will never put it in the game, how much you wanna bet? I say the loser buys the winner a brand new playseat.

I never called off the bet, I just pointed out (just like I did there) that I have forever before I have to pay up, unfrotunately, the bet (which you worded yourself originally so you can't even blame anyone else for) puts you squarely in the hotseat should rewind ever be put in GT5 :)

Sorry... that's how it is.
 
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I think he meant rewind. The translation, while it could be wrong, says that you can rewind the game. Not rewind a replay. Not to mention that KY's responding to the question of what features GT5 will have to make it easier for beginners. I fail to see how rewinding replays makes the game more accessible to newbies.
 
Guys.. What he meant, is reverse by watching replays, your own replays, then you can record them for YOUTUBE for others to see. the translator guy was not 100% down with American spoken language.

This was my first thought on reading it in the context of the interview, that you can watch a replay and share them etc. to get input on how to improve.

I'm not that fussed if it's in, it'll be a useful addition for practising corners possibly, and if not, I just won't use it.
 
Don't come in here pushing that you know what he meant. I see "automatic braking" in that interview as well. It doesn't get much more simple than that to know he's referring to a feature that brakes for you.

Isn't that what this thread is about? Or most of the speculation threads on this forum?

Any thread that is started, including this one, that speculates about anything Kaz said and is not confirmed, is just someone pushing what they think they know he meant.
 
Isn't that what this thread is about? Or most of the speculation threads on this forum?

Any thread that is started, including this one, that speculates about anything Kaz said and is not confirmed, is just someone pushing what they think they know he meant.

Speculating typically involves the words "I think" in the statement. Presenting opinion as fact won't get you very far.
 
Why does it come as a surprise even to you? Because GT never was a game to have such kind of features. I believe it was reasonable to assume it would remain that way, which is why I pointed out it was something Kazunori wouldn't include in the game. Well, I'll remember to point out it's something Kazunori isn't likely to include in the game whenever the situation calls for it again.

We will see if and how it will be in the game but I keep my opinion. It shouldn't be in GT in the same way it is in Forza. Doesn't fit the game that way. It has to be worked on before it can be included without some nasty side effects.

It surprised me because it had never been announced, there was no hint of it and it had never been in a previuos GT so I would think it would be announced if it was going to be in this one (as it is a noteable deal, especially what with Forza bringing rewind to the sim arena).

While in isolation that's a legit reason to assume that it wouldn't be in future GT series, there were plenty of reasons given to support why it might well make it into the game, not the least of which was one I brought up in that it makes the game more accessible to casuals and thus increases it's target market... and this was broadly refuted as GT was supposedly for the hardcore and would never break down and appeal to the casuals, that's not KY's way.

In the end, a legit reason to make an assumption is one thing, but there were many flawed reasons and just plain bad assumptions listed as fact during that whole period and in the end I didin't THINK it would be in GT, but a lot of people KNEW it wouldn't and their reasons for knowing this - like knowing how KY thinks - make the positions noteably different.
 
You interpreted the conditions in a way that you have 0% chance of paying up, so the bet is off. :lol:

Haha... no I told you right from the start that I liked the bet because I had forever. There was no interperating, it's literally exactly what you said. You made the bet, you worded it, it's all you buddy, I had nothing to do with it other than accepting the bet you put forward. I never called it off, but now that you see you are loosing YOU are the one trying to call it off... how sad.

You made your own bed but now you don't want to lie in it.

But we all knew you wouldn't pay up from the get anyway :)
 
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Personally if you need automatic braking you should not be playing GT... especially online. GT5p on standard mode, with all the aids turn up is so easy a baby could do it.

Rewind however is better than many GT fans would like to believe. Why? Simple, say I want create an epic crash, rewind, or I just want complete this one race and then at the end I get needlessly bumped by the Ai loosing all my positions, rewind. Now I believe that if the feature is in the game those that use it should be penalized by receiving less credits and having lap time not count AT ALL (unlike that other game). It should also not be allowed in endurance races as the whole challenge of an endurance race is to drive for all that time and not mess up even if it is the last second. Or you could just have it not be a part of career mode and have it just for practice.
 
Haha... no I told you right from the start that I liked the bet because I had forever. You made the bet, you worded it, it's all you buddy, I had nothing to do with it other than accepting the bet you put forward. I never called it off, but now that you see you are loosing YOU are the one trying to call it off... how sad.

You made your own bed but now you don't want to lie in it.

But we all knew you wouldn't pay up from the get anyway :)
Look at the pot calling the kettle black. :lol: You would've been better off if you accepted my interpretation from the very beginning, but you chickened out and tried to bull **** your way out of it, now you're left with nothing but a deep sense of butt hurt. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. :lol:
 
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No I didn't... I just reminded you I have forever and you only have until GT5 releases :) Go ahead and take a look... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3566831&postcount=203



I never called off the bet, I just pointed out (just like I did there) that I have forever before I have to pay up, unfrotunately, the bet (which you worded yourself originally so you can't even blame anyone else for) puts you squarely in the hotseat should rewind ever be put in GT5 :)

Sorry... that's how it is.

Actually, you would have only have had until Kazunori Yamauchi dies, or stops making GT games... :)
 
Personally if you need automatic braking you should not be playing GT... especially online. GT5p on standard mode, with all the aids turn up is so easy a baby could do it.

GT elitism at it's finest 👍!

The only people that shouldn't be playing GT are those who steal it.
 
I really hope rewind and automatic braking are only available in the "learning to drive" mode.
Automatic braking, while I would never use it, doesn't bother me as much as rewind. Maybe it's just because it's been in many racing games for ages now; I think the original Formula One game for the PS1 back in 1996 had that feature.
 
After being deceived by the GT2 cover, I agree. :D

In your opinion. Don't come in here pushing that you know what he meant. I see "automatic braking" in that interview as well. It doesn't get much more simple than that to know he's referring to a feature that brakes for you.

Either way, if they really put REWIND feature in. I want it to be as an ON and OFF. Because I want my OFF so I won't get lazy at racing.
 
Do people just not have self control? If you are that tempted by a button in a racing game I can't imagine what else tempts you in your life.
 
Automatic braking, while I would never use it, doesn't bother me as much as rewind. Maybe it's just because it's been in many racing games for ages now; I think the original Formula One game for the PS1 back in 1996 had that feature.

I feel the same about rewind. If it's available in some kind of training/beginner arena then I'm honestly all for it. But if it's available throughout the game :grumpy: it's just not simulation.. takes away tons of excitement. I'll try not to use it, but I know I will if it's there.

The rewind feature in racing games reminds me of the slow-mo feature in many FPS's in recent years. In general it's stupid and gimmicky.
 
I think it would feel really awkward to any of us that already know how to play GT to drive with that auto-breaking feature turned on. But I could see how it would help a newbie learn thier breaking points.
 
LOL this is pretty funny. Now people have to convince themselves they like rewind after they spent all that time bashing it :lol:

I wish I could bump my "Lots of games have it now, Should GT 5 have a Rewind feature?" but it got locked people were so "passionate" about it LOL
 
Personally if you need automatic braking you should not be playing GT... especially online. GT5p on standard mode, with all the aids turn up is so easy a baby could do it.

Personally, I agree that automatic braking is a tad on the stupid side but the point of all the aids is so that, perhaps not babies, younger children or those that haven't got a clue about driving can take part in the game. Kaz wants to reach everyone.

I think that rewind is a stupid feature aswell. Mistakes happen, its a fact of life. You learn from them and try a different approach next race/lap. Not just rewind and try again, thus erasing the fact you've made the mistake. If its in the game there's not a lot I can do about it, but its not a feature I would want to use. I certainly hope its only usable in time trial or something. If not then it is used at a cost in races.

That was an interesting interview all together. Questions left a bit to be desired but got good answers.
 
I feel the same about rewind. If it's available in some kind of training/beginner arena then I'm honestly all for it. But if it's available throughout the game :grumpy: it's just not simulation.. takes away tons of excitement. I'll try not to use it, but I know I will if it's there.

The rewind feature in racing games reminds me of the slow-mo feature in many FPS's in recent years. In general it's stupid and gimmicky.

As long they put it as ON OFF button in the Menu or setup screen. I hate in FM3 its always turn on , you can't turn it off meaning your finger is always itching for it whenever you mess up. If in GT5 you can disable it, more more itching, no more complains from me.
 
Oh crap,if this guess of a translation is true, if this is a sign of things to come....

Now, i'll make my last stand.

REWIND IS NOT CONFIRMED.

Anyone recommend any good PC sims that aren't getting close to gimicky?
 
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