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Hey guys, FYI; the Motul Petit Le Mans(10hr.) @ Road Atlanta is starting on NBC and continues on NBCSN in 2hrs. If your not familiar with this track, it is definitely worth a look and a must track to race if you get a chance👍🏻🍻
Hey, I forgot to mention it earlier but it looked like you were running TCS 5 at Monza, you should try to drop that down to 2 or 3 max, even better practice not using TCS. Your leaving lap time on the table running TCS.Hey guys, FYI; the Motul Petit Le Mans(10hr.) @ Road Atlanta is starting on NBC and continues on NBCSN in 2hrs. If your not familiar with this track, it is definitely worth a look and a must track to race if you get a chance👍🏻🍻
🤨Thanks🤣🤣🤣FuuuuukMan, I didn't even think about that. I was running full TC🧐 I usually never use it, but since we allow it in the GR3 class races, I figure if everyone else can use it I'll take advantage of it. That said, I know there is draw backs to it sometimes🤓 I was saying I was leaving time on the track🧐😒 I tried getting your Lesmos 3rd gear corner entry and couldn't keep from running wide on exit. I could feel I was leaving time at the Lesmos... during Qualy I found myself trying to take it in 3rd gear and for some reason during the race I found myself trying to get it. I had to give it up and race my line. But now I know 2 areas I was losing time. I still haven't gotten around to watching the Monza race.Hey, I forgot to mention it earlier but it looked like you were running TCS 5 at Monza, you should try to drop that down to 2 or 3 max, even better practice not using TCS. Your leaving lap time on the table running TCS.
Traction Control (TCS) is allowed for the Gr.3 class. Just because there are 5 levels available doesn't mean it's wise to use to max limit. TCS can reduce or eliminate wheelspin. TCS also help reduce tire wear to your drive tires and save a little bit of fuel. However TCS does have some cons. In order to reduce wheelspin TCS will suppress your acceleration slightly. It can also hinder the handling some cars. I find this more common with cars that aren't designed with the use of TCS. So if you choose to use TCS. It's in your best interests to only use what you need. Level 1 or 2 is good enough for most cars in the game. Though there are some exceptions.🤨Thanks🤣🤣🤣FuuuuukMan, I didn't even think about that. I was running full TC🧐 I usually never use it, but since we allow it in the GR3 class races, I figure if everyone else can use it I'll take advantage of it. That said, I know there is draw backs to it sometimes🤓 I was saying I was leaving time on the track🧐😒 I tried getting your Lesmos 3rd gear corner entry and couldn't keep from running wide on exit. I could feel I was leaving time at the Lesmos... during Qualy I found myself trying to take it in 3rd gear and for some reason during the race I found myself trying to get it. I had to give it up and race my line. But now I know 2 areas I was losing time. I still haven't gotten around to watching the Monza race.
Traction Control System (TCS) is either a mechanical or electrical device on the car designed to reduce or eliminate wheelspin. It's not really a substitute for AWD or 4WD. With enough power a 4WD car can spin too.Also TCS is a mess for AWD. Since that's what the AW part of AWD does🤣 I keep having to comeback to needing to re-learn a lot again. I was away to long to maintain everything I had learned. I pulled out my notes from years ago to get back up to speed. I kept all kinds of cheatsheets that I got in race games through the years. I'm not sure way the stopped adding them and I don't find them really online. For example, there is an order to building a set-up; You guys don't do tuner league, but with your exp., I would imagine you guys are still aware of it. Talking with others, this is not widely known. If they kept adding the knowledge with the game.........
I ran a few laps in the Atenza at Monza yesterday and kinda figured out the 3rd gear deal. First we take the corner a little different; I take that first corner tight on entrance which is what flings my out on exit, giving that rocket ship take off feeling. You guys no what I'm talking about, rocket toward Lesmos T2? I noticed you take a more squared off entrance taking more corner on exit than on entry. I was able to get it, but FEEL slower🤔 This is were GT suuuuuucks. If I had some telemetry, I could compare race lines, speed etc. and correct. W/O that I can only guess as I can't watch the speedo and the track😒😁 They could extremely elevate GT back to the top letting us connect to Motec. The racing would get much much tighter.
You ran TCS at the Gardens with the hauyra about a month ago. Plus go try to drive the worst prototype ever built. The FWD Nissan GT-R LM Nismo.I have yet to find a car that is faster for me using TCS.
Dude, you are fukn on the it. I dig you guys sharing all the info.👍🏻🍻🍻Traction Control System (TCS) is either a mechanical or electrical device on the car designed to reduce or eliminate wheelspin. It's not really a substitute for AWD or 4WD. With enough power a 4WD car can spin too.
Actually for modern hybrid Prototypes I still run 1 of 2 TC with even though they are 4WD. When the hybrid power activates for these cars. This can have very abrupt wheelspin even with the 4WD. And can easily catch you off guard. Even if you're prepared for it. WEC allows them TC in real life. So I'm sure they are designed for it to be used.Dude, you are fukn on the it. I dig you guys sharing all the info.👍🏻🍻🍻
I didn't want my diarrhea-of-the-mouth to write a book🤣🤣 What I would have pointed out was using TC with a AWD/4WD is a net negative. It's not a substitute, TC isn't needed because that's what's already going on. Thats why they handle much better than a GT3 car does. ie. take the 2 458s out for a spin, perfect example.
CW-I was thinking earlier, It would be cool if you did a little mini series before GT7 comes out🤔 After our season ends I'm going to start racing Asseto Corsa more. I've kept away from it for the most part so I can focus on our races.
I have never hid the fact that I ran TCS in the SS Series, I ran TCS 1 because it improves tire with the tires and settings we were using, I used it almost every SSS race. I also frequently ran fuel mode 2 for most races, it obviously improves mileage but surprisingly it also improved lap time, once again because of the car and tire choice. The 1 or 2 times that I did drive the Nissan Prototype I drove without TCS but it also had race tires on it, still hated it though. FWD cars suck.You ran TCS at the Gardens with the hauyra about a month ago. Plus go try to drive the worst prototype ever built. The FWD Nissan GT-R LM Nismo.
You drove the Nissan Prototype without any TCS. Why would you do that to yourself? The modern prototypes are designed with TCS. Not that TCS helps that Prototype much. Maybe buys you a extra lap with the front tires maybe.I have never hid the fact that I ran TCS in the SS Series, I ran TCS 1 because it improves tire with the tires and settings we were using, I used it almost every SSS race. I also frequently ran fuel mode 2 for most races, it obviously improves mileage but surprisingly it also improved lap time, once again because of the car and tire choice. The 1 or 2 times that I did drive the Nissan Prototype I drove without TCS but it also had race tires on it, still hated it though. FWD cars suck.
I think the GR1 cars have so much traction that TCS is not needed. Even the odd cars like RB Standard are fine without TCS, unless you spin out and have to turn the car around, then it can become challenging.You drove the Nissan Prototype without any TCS. Why would you do that to yourself? The modern prototypes are designed with TCS. Not that TCS helps that Prototype much. Maybe buys you a extra lap with the front tires maybe.
On an interesting note I don't use TCS with any of the Group C. Because it there wheelspin worse and less predictable on a dry track.
I will definitely get "annoying the host" penalties. Let me begin, shouldn't Sarthe be GR3 and Laguna GR4??@Jarkulary
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Since some of you have asked. Here is the details on the 2022. I still might tweak somethings here and there but, for the most part it's finished.
Rinsky's 2022 Final Tour Weekly Endurance Series
Due the announcement of the release of Gran Turismo 7. The 2022 season of this series will be last season for series at least on Gran Turismo Sport. Due to the release date being March 4th, 2022. The 2022 season will change from a monthly series to a 8 weekend weekly series starting January 8th and ending February 26th. The last weekend before the release of Gran Turismo 7.
This season races will feature some returns to highlighted venues of some best races of this series' past. Plus few new surprises too keep things fun.
We will still run both Gr.3 and Gr.4 classes but, not on an alternating schedule like previous years. Since you will have limited to only a week of practice. I thought it would be easier for everyone to have only one class transition this season. So Gr.4 will run the first 4 races and Gr.3 will run the last 4 races season.
Since I have noted we have a lot of last minute arrivals. I have to decide to push race/ qualifying start back 15 minutes. Races in 2022 will now start at 7:45 pm by Eastern US Standard Time Zone (EST). The lobbies will still open at 6:30 pm EST. Oh great news since this series will end in February. Will not have to worry about the clock changes for 2022 season.
I'm going to try to get some of the pass members to comeback for the last season but, no guarantees. Current members will automatically be locked in for the 2022 season. No need to worry if we unlikely get popular for the 2022 season.
Car Regulations
*Gr.3 and Gr4 Classes (Half and Half)
*On BOP
Gr.4 Dry Tires: RS, RM, RH
Gr.3 Dry Tires: RS, RM, RH
Gr.3 Wet Tires: RI, RW
*No Tuning
Car Selection Special Regulations
*Mixed Manufacturers Allowed
Note: Yes that's right no model or manufacturers restrictions this season. I want everyone to be able to enjoy their Gr.3 / Gr.4 favorite cars. For this final tour. Since everyone favorites may not be from the same manufacturer. I know mine aren't. I'm allowing you to mix manufacturers again.
Driving Aids Allowed
Driving Lines (DL)
Traction Control (TCS) (Both Classes)
ABS
Note: The Gr.4 class is very difficult too set up for multiple tire compounds. TCS will be allowed for the 2022 season. As a way to save tires for high wear cars. See we don't allow tuning.
Race Schedule
1/8/22, José Carlos 1.5 Hours
1. Autodromo de Interlagos
Gr.4, 90 Minutes, Qualifying 10 Minutes,
Morning 9:30 Clear, Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x5
Fuel at Start 98%
1/15/22, Dragon Trail Seaside II 1.5 Hours
2. Dragon Trail - Seaside II
Gr.4, 90 Minutes, Qualifying 10 Minutes, Afternoon 13:00 Cloudy, Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x5
Fuel at Start 97%
1/22/22, Tsukuba 185 km
3. Tsukuba Circuit
Gr.4, 91 Laps, Qualifying 10 Minutes,
Noon 12:00 Fine, Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x5
Fuel at Start 99%
1/29/22, 2 Hours of Le Mans
4. Circuit de la Sarthe
Gr.4, 2 Hours, Qualifying 10 Minutes
Afternoon 15:00 Clear, Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x11
Fuel at Start 92%
2/5/22, 300 km of Tokyo South Outer
5. Tokyo Expressway - South Outer Loop
Gr.3, 58 Laps, Qualifying 10 Minutes
Twilight 18:00 Clear, Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x8
Fuel at Start 98%
2/12/22, 90 Minutes of Spa-Francorchamps
6. Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
Gr.3, 90 Minutes, Qualifying 10 Minutes
Daytime 11:00 Rain (Heavy Wet), Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x7
Fuel at Start 96%
2/19/22, Blue Moon Bay 398 Miles
7. Blue Moon Bay Speedway
Gr.3, 200 Laps, 10 Minutes
Noon 13:00 Clear, Rolling Start
Fuel x1, Tires x4
Fuel at Start 96%
2/26/22, Laguna Sega 150 Miles
8. WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Sega
Gr.3, 67 Laps, Qualifying 10 Minutes
Sunset 17:00 Clear, Grid Start
Fuel x3, Tires x7
Fuel at Start 98%
Fuel and Tire testing
Gr.4 Interlagos, Seaside, Tsukuba F x3, T x5
Gr.4 Le Mans, x3 x11
Gr.3 Blue, F x1 T x 4
Gr.3 Tokyo, F x3 Tx8
Gr.3 Spa, Laguna, F x3 T x7
Tire Compounds
Gr.4 RS, RM, RH
Gr.3 Dry RS, RM, RH
Gr.3 Wet RI, RW
2022 Points System
TBA
Our point system this year will be based on how many players start the season. Both classes will be still be scored together. Due to the shorter season you will only be able to drop or miss one race this season. Meaning 7 out of 8 races will count. Crown jewel races will x1.5 instead of x2 due to the shorter season. I feel double points would be to valuable with less regular races.
After Penalties
Ignoring In Race Penalty TBA
Aggressive Contact Penalty TBA
Failure To Relinquish Encumbered Position Penalty TBA
Reckless Driving Penalty TBA
Regulations Breach TBA
Annoying The Host Penalty TBA
I will change over the forum for the new season after this season ends. Thanks you all completing in the 2021. Hope you all return for our final tour.
I forgot to erase my tire testing results. And I more clearly specified the car regulations.I will definitely get "annoying the host" penalties. Let me begin, shouldn't Sarthe be GR3 and Laguna GR4??
Are you saying that we can use a different car every week of we choose??
I will admit that at my age the races all seem to blur together so I do not remember the 2.4 finale at Sarthe too well. But I definitely remember the Tskuba race, glad to see it back, that's one of my favorites of all time, no wait, that is most definitely my most favorite race of all time. I may decide to use the car that works best here for my season car and screw Sarthe where I will take a beating with a proper Tskuba car.
I still had the replay for our first 2.4 Hour Final. I was forced to delete it to make room for more replays. But not before taking some photos of the race. I was intending send them to you and @Racer283 after this season ends. I could send them to early.I could swap cars every week if I did not care to accumulate points, correct??
As much as a I love my family. Surprise visits would annoying. Who knows what plans it could ruin.Hey guys, have to miss tonights race😩😩 I have family surprise us this weekend. I was hoping to still race, but we have other plans. Have fun👍🏻🍻