RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

[metalcue]

Hey Roj, does my review for the ZR1 valid for another request tune from RKM?

 

[VTiRoj]

I haven't seen any review for the R32 Godzilla here, since I am a big fan of the thing I will do a little bit of a review here. Sorry I cannot go in lengthy detail like some of the properly-made-reviews here due to language issue...

It seems the car has been improved a lot in terms of cornering ability from it in default settings. However, compared to your other tunes, this one by far has the most understeer persisting with the overall handling. Maybe the overall balance of the car makes it goes naturally like that.

However, I can cope with that, With a little throttle control, the understeer can be tamed. It is just the understeer "sits" with the this one compared to other tunes. But again your tunes are proven once again, works like magic to shave of almost 2 seconds off the default setting tested in Trial mountain with ss tyres. I will post the said time later.

I expected this car to be at the same lvl with the R34 Black Edition in terms of handling. But the R34 is far better with almost nothing to complain about.

Can someone comment for this one?

Thanks

Thanks for the review!

The R32 always has this understeery feeling compared to the R33 and R34. It's because the 4WD system on the R32 isn't as advanced as the R33 and R34, so it feels a lot more like the heavy 4WD it is, rather than the lighter feeling you get on the R34.

But yeah as you said, it'll knock 2 seconds off the default time so it's an improvement at least.

Hey Roj, does my review for the ZR1 valid for another request tune from RKM?

Yep. 👍

 

[The Dane]

THIS. IS. A. FANTASTIC. TUNE!!! No other words can describe it! :-) .

I just used this tune on my new 908 HDi Fab for Seasonal Events---World Circuit Tour---Nürburgring 24V / 1 Lap, and I won in my first try! You have tamed a wild beast. Thank you :-) .

 

[uMadson?]

THIS. IS. A. FANTASTIC. TUNE!!! No other words can describe it! :-) .

I just used this tune on my new 908 HDi Fab for Seasonal Events---World Circuit Tour---Nürburgring 24V / 1 Lap, and I won in my first try! You have tamed a wild beast. Thank you :-) .

Don't quote the entire tune mate, that just takes up space uselessly.

If you want to quote the tune, just use the picture.

 

[The Dane]

Don't quote the entire tune mate, that just takes up space uselessly.

If you want to quote the tune, just use the picture.

I hear ya m8, and it is now corrected .

 

[GT350GT]

Roj, ive read up to chapter 27 on your "Ready Steady Go" series, i cant wait for you to write the next chapter

 

[The Dane]

RKM Motorsport’s C63 AMG

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"This wasn’t the first time we’ve tuned a C63. We have a 785bhp one tuned to relieve any stress we may have, in a very smokey and slidey way."

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Please give me a link to the other tune with 785 bhp. I have searched and searched, but I can't find it. Thank you :-) .

 

[VTiRoj]

Please give me a link to the other tune with 785 bhp. I have searched and searched, but I can't find it. Thank you :-) .

It's un released. The 785bhp one is just for sliding around really, not a serious tune.

 

[The Dane]

It's un released. The 785bhp one is just for sliding around really, not a serious tune.

Aaah - I wish I had not spend an hour trying to find it then :-) .

 

[VTiRoj]

Aaah - I wish I had not spend an hour trying to find it then :-) .

Yeah sorry about that.

For future reference, 99% of our tunes are in this thread. The other 1% are tuner challenge cars and people sharing their requested settings with other people.

 

[JrDarknes]

RKM Motorsport’s NSX Street Legal

 

[VTiRoj]

Thanks for the video review! The car looked solid out there.

 

[noisiaturismo]

Were those tunes with a steering wheel? Because i have a Dualshock 3 and the Z06 RM drove even worse than a standard Z06 RM..

 

[Onboy123]

Were those tunes with a steering wheel? Because i have a Dualshock 3 and the Z06 RM drove even worse than a standard Z06 RM..

RJ's are for the wheel, Roj's tunes will suit us DS3 boys better as he tunes with a DS3 as well.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Were those tunes with a steering wheel? Because i have a Dualshock 3 and the Z06 RM drove even worse than a standard Z06 RM..

Oh? Explain what it did wrong or we can't really help.

 

[Onboy123]

Oh? Explain what it did wrong or we can't really help.

Maybe his fingers have the same issues as mine did when I drove it. i.e lead tipped fingers with an anvil at the end of it, making precise throttle control impossible.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Maybe his fingers have the same issues as mine did when I drove it. i.e lead tipped fingers with an anvil at the end of it, making precise throttle control impossible.

Perhaps, in which case the slight understeer of the stocker may be easier to deal with... But I can guarantee that if you CAN drive our tune properly it's a hell of a lot faster than default.

 

[Onboy123]

Perhaps, in which case the slight understeer of the stocker may be easier to deal with... But I can guarantee that if you CAN drive our tune properly it's a hell of a lot faster than default.

Well, it would be fast, no doubt. 900hp, 1.1 ton and a suspension and diff tuned by someone who knows what they're doing is more than enough to guarantee that. But I remember that I didn't have a lot of confidence in it. It was a very remote feeling car, there wasn't a lot about it to hate, but I couldn't say I like it either…

 

[VTiRoj]

It's mostly because RJ's tunes need a higher skill level (no offense to anyone) to get the most out of them, compared to my cars which are very beginner-friendly.

 

[uMadson?]

It's mostly because RJ's tunes need a higher skill level (no offense to anyone) to get the most out of them, compared to my cars which are very beginner-friendly.

Seems like. Taking note of my past experiences with his CZ4A tune (funny that I usually call Japanese sports cars by their chassis code, the Evo X in this case), I had quite a hard time orientating myself with the unnatural AYC setting he made up. While with a few tunes that are level with it, for example, the 380RS, I can run it consistently for around 5 laps.

 

[Onboy123]

Seems like. Taking note of my past experiences with his CZ4A tune (funny that I usually call Japanese sports cars by their chassis code, the Evo X in this case), I had quite a hard time orientating myself with the unnatural AYC setting he made up. While with a few tunes that are level with it, for example, the 380RS, I can run it consistently for around 5 laps.

And remember what happened when we took the NSX GT500 online on the ring at night?

Me - ARGHHH!!! I'M BLIND!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T SEE A THING!!! ARGGHHHHHHHHH CORNERRR!!!!!!!!! <insert a lot of swearwords> *flies out of Flugplatz backwards at 180mph and uMadson wins

 

[uMadson?]

And remember what happened when we took the NSX GT500 online on the ring at night?

Me - ARGHHH!!! I'M BLIND!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T SEE A THING!!! ARGGHHHHHHHHH CORNERRR!!!!!!!!! <insert a lot of swearwords> *flies out of Flugplatz backwards at 180mph and uMadson wins

Oh that, both of us don't know how to tame the GT beast online

 

[Onboy123]

Oh that, both of us don't know how to tame the GT beast online

I have to admit, I damn near weed myself when that happened And I lost that race by, what was it, 20 seconds? Ohhh I fail so badly at the ring normally, with the NSX GT500, I'd rather be stabbed…

 

[VTiRoj]

New LSD Accel settings for the FD2 pair.




Less power-understeer in both now, most noticable in the Turbo version.

 

[GT350GT]

wish they put this car in GT5 :/

 

[VTiRoj]

Fixed for you.

And yeah a Scion tC would be nice in GT5.

 

[Onboy123]

Lol 'RKM turtle' awwwwwwwwwww so cute So much better company than Roj

 

[GT350GT]

Really love The street tuned NSX. Fast grippy and stable,but there are a few bad points, due to its heavy weight if the car oversteers it is almost impossible to get it back inline before the exit of the corner, this happens when you push the car to its absolute limits, the back-end will lose grip, you can easily hold it, but these drifts last for quite a while because most of the weight is at the rear unlike an FR car, also braking from fast speeds the back-end will also nearly go infront of the front! but you can just floor it and the LSD and Suspension tuned by proffesionals, will easily sort it out, but the weight can be an advantage, seen as you can floor it everywhere until that little cheeky back-end comes out
Well Done Once Again

 

[GT350GT]

thanks haha! i thought i had done it right

 

[Onboy123]

A completely unexpected and unexpectedly short review with a completely unexpected outcome!
NSX-R review

Pre-update:
Well&#8230;how many times do I need to say it. It&#8217;s fantastic. A lot of childish fun, but quick enough to knock the teeth out of car which, on paper, should whoop it. It can lap the Top Gear Test Track faster than a 500hp R34 GTR, and match a time set by a 600+hp Camaro RM.
And you only need to take it around a corner to see why it&#8217;s just so damn good. It corners like it&#8217;s rooted to the tarmac. Even when the back is kicked out and the tyres are smoking, it will not let go and spin. That is part of the &#8216;genius&#8217; of this car, you can get into the most ridiculous slides but it&#8217;ll still hang on in there, holding on to that last strand of grip that its tyres can offer. Other nice things? Well, it feels very alive in the corners, it is a serious racer once you tame that exuberant arse, and it is very fast for a mere 400hp. By that, I mean not just fast for 400hp, but fast, full stop. At it&#8217;s best, with me completely in the zone, I&#8217;ve seen 1:10.xxx out of this. And on the TGTT, that is an astonishing achievement, bearing in mind the fact that it&#8217;s not on RS tyres, it didn&#8217;t require any form of corner cutting and and that it didn&#8217;t require a full RM kit and tons of downforce to do it. On this occasion, it did a lap in 1:12.453. Not bad.
I remember saying, once, that this car is damn near perfection and anyone who dared alter this balance will more than likely ruin it. So it&#8217;s hard to see how this supposed &#8216;newer&#8217; version can be better.

Post-update:
Um&#8230;&#8230;bad news. It is as I feared. It&#8217;s a step backwards. Where it used to oversteer and grace the apex of the corner with its front bumper, it now fails to slow for the corner and plows straight on. I&#8217;ve tried every &#8216;technique&#8217; I know of, trail braking, braking before the corner to try to avoid the risk of running wide, and none of it worked. It&#8217;ll just throw me off the course backwards at the first corner.
So...not looking good, but again, I fear it&#8217;s not as it seems and that it is me letting the car down. Not vice versa. To get it around, I&#8217;ve had to learn a new way of driving the thing. Brake, turn in, but keep a bit of power on, and suddenly, the old spirit of the NSX is back. But it still isn&#8217;t as nice to drive as the old car. That one was quick to respond, sharp, fast and above all, fun. This isn&#8217;t, and I swear I&#8217;m not just saying that to annoy Roj. It only does fast (not very well, being just 0.5 faster). It&#8217;s too nervous, in the old car, you could pretty much feel where it&#8217;ll go in the corners, in this, you&#8230;can&#8217;t. Oh, and the brakes don&#8217;t slow it down enough. So, back to the drawing board.

Lap times- Top Gear Test Track
1:12.453 (pre-update)
1:11.983 (post-update)

Edit: RJ, weren't you going to put your Accord on share so I can see what real oversteer in a FF looks like?!??