RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

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Just wondering when you guys are going to get around to this. I know you guys are busy and all. Im not surprised if it got buried due to some people over posting imo.
You did read Roj's response, right? He told you to PM him the request so it doesn't get lost in the thread, so don't push the blame on others. Still, Roj being…him, it'll probably mean you'll have to wait another two weeks or so before he gets going on it.
 
The Maroon Missile of Akina…Or Not…
RKM Integra Type R ’01- (Test done online)

From the outside, this looks like a normal Intgera Type R, painted in the colour of iodine. Or crap. Whichever you want. There isn’t much spectacular about the specs, either. It has just under 350hp, just under 500PP and weighs just over a ton. It’s also sitting on the very normal sport hard rubber instead of the usual RKM sport soft and is a FF. So we should know what that means.

But surprisingly, it defies the typical understeering stereotypes. It still runs wide a little bit, but being a FF car with hardly the best weight distribution, you’d expect that. What you don’t expect though, is for the back to try and come round. IN A FF. Nor do you expect the sharpness from the steering, the immediate response from the front end, the enthusiastic feel when you corner. I haven’t driven a front engine, front wheel drive car that’s so lively! I'm going through the S-curves of Suzuka East, a section of corners almost renown for showing up understeer. But in this, there isn't hint of it. Just a lot of tail out goodness. And don’t think it has been ‘rigged’ with ballast at +50 to get the arse out. There’s no added fat here. It's just the work of an amazing setting. But that’s not the most surprising thing about this.

What’s the most surprising thing here is that everything, everything apart from the brake balance were originally sourced from other RKM settings. They were all just grafted on. You’ll recognise the diff settings from the Volvo C30RS, the suspension is a compromise setup between the Crimson R and Intgera Type R. The gearbox was tuned in the same style as the NSX Evo R and the entire tune was cobbled together by someone with exactly zero knowledge or theory on the subject of tuning. Me. In fact, 3/4 of the tune was made from other RKM bits, just turned into a Frankenstein by me and then given life by Roj. A car made like that really shouldn’t drive well.

But the end result of this coupling was amazing. People praise the Integra for being a FF NSX, and they aren’t wrong. But what this is, is a FF NSX in performance, and MX-5 in spirit. The two best feelings a car could give a driver, confidence and enthusiasm, mixed with some proper performance, bottled in an unassuming exterior. This is what a fast Honda should be like. Yes, it does make a crap of its tyres after a lap or two, yes, it’s a bit tricky to handle when it isn’t all sideways, but it’s all down to how you drive it. That is everything in a car like this. A car tuned in a different style requires a different driving method. I still haven’t quite got the hang of it yet. The best method of cornering in this that I’ve come up with is throwing the nose into a turn while keeping a bit of the brakes applied, holding the car in a sideways angle. It works. Sort of. It’s not the fastest method, but it is the most fun way of cornering in this. This isn’t just a car now, it’s another lesson in driving. It tries to get you to learn how to get the arse out in a FF and hold it there.

But not so fast with the seal of approval just yet though. You see, I had this tuned on sport hard tyres for a very good reason. The underground sport of Touge. I wanted a car which I puts fun above winning as a priority but still good enough to stick to the big guns of this little-known world. Now, I knew from the very beginning that this brown splatter wouldn’t have a hope in keeping up with the top racers there as it’s me who’s driving, but I wanted to see how good it was on computer generated tracks. So I loaded up one of my personal favourites, and brought out my 525PP punch bag. The Nissan R35. It is the very same one that I sent flying in its review. So, now that it’s back from the menders, let’s see if it can prove itself worthy of its badge in a time attack against my humble Honda. ;)
*Note- Because of the sheer length and number of corners on this track, I’ll do the lap report in sections*

Honda first. 3…2…1…GO…!!

Down to the first sector, the high speed section, there’s hints of understeer here and there, and it’s an area where the Integra doesn’t fair quite well. It doesn’t matter how much oversteer you can coax into a FF, it’ll still be controlled by physics. And physics say that in high speed turns, you’ll run wide and crap up your lap time before you’ve even properly begun. I wrestled it through, the understeer coming and going, slowly getting on my nerves.

Sector two, the low speed section. Which is where the ‘teggy should slide. But I can’t risk kicking the tail out here though, not on a time attack. That decision cost me, I couldn’t get on the power as soon as I wanted to as the understeer would get me.
Last section, a mix of the above. The Integra performs remarkable well here, surprisingly. It can get its power down with only a hint of wheelspin, the tyres seem to finally be warm enough to provide the grip the car needs and it flies through the last corner and across the line! In 03.05.627, not bad……but what time did the Nissan do it in as it crosses the line…now!

Nissan R35- 3.03.063

Ah…crap. But hey, 2.5 seconds isn’t that bad considering that the R35 is 4WD and has 100hp more. And bear in mind, the 2.5 second loss was against a R35.

Whoops…Anyywayyys, moving on from that mild disappointment, summing up this Integra. It does pretty much what I hoped it would do. It's almost tuned according to my little belief. A fast car that's not fun isn't half as good as a slower one which is. And this is one representation of that. Not tuned to be victorious first and foremost, but rather to be fun first, and victorious hopefully.

* The Integra has won it's first Touge race on its debut (though it was because the opponent forfeit)
** Test track is Toscana Tarmac, 'Mt. Akina', created by SolidSnake7735.
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Not my most serious review ever, but I leave the serious stuff for RJ cuz I don't like to joke around with him. RJ is scary :scared:
 
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I know I didn't really like the R35 but eventually all these crashes would be boring...

And horrible photo taking there, why is that Integra blurred a lot in the second photo? :P Read the tutorials found in the Photomode thread and learn some photography lessons when in that subforum then if you're a whole lot better than me, maybe I'd give the whole G.T.R thread to ya.
 
I know I didn't really like the R35 but eventually all these crashes would be boring...

And horrible photo taking there, why is that Integra blurred a lot in the second photo? :P Read the tutorials found in the Photomode thread and learn some photography lessons when in that subforum then if you're a whole lot better than me, maybe I'd give the whole G.T.R thread to ya.
:lol: I know, I just felt like crashing it :D And those were old photos, really old. Since I had no use for them, I thought I'd show you my old photo taking skillz :D I have another one of that, more in focus (-ish), so I might use that one instead for the actual G.T.R one…

Edit: Indirectly, you already did give me the thread :D

Edit again: Replaced blurry shot with slightly less blurry shot. :lol:
 
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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5444557#post5444557

Just wondering when you guys are going to get around to this. I know you guys are busy and all. Im not surprised if it got buried due to some people over posting imo.
Yeah I did say, PM it to either me or RJ so it wouldn't get lost in the thread, which it then did. PM it to one of us and then send the car over PSN and it'll be tuned. 👍

The Maroon Missile of Akina…Or Not…
RKM Integra Type R ’01- (Test done online)
I like how you went from a review into a race report. :lol: Only 2.5 seconds though eh? Kinda goes to show how rapid Tegs can actually be. :lol: I think I've covered everything there is to say over the PM's when I was tweaking it anyway so yeah, thanks for the review. :D:tup:

What's the regulations for this touge thing you're in anyway...? :sly:
 
I like how you went from a review into a race report. :lol: Only 2.5 seconds though eh? Kinda goes to show how rapid Tegs can actually be. :lol: I think I've covered everything there is to say over the PM's when I was tweaking it anyway so yeah, thanks for the review. :D:tup:

What's the regulations for this touge thing you're in anyway...? :sly:
Hey! At least there was some R35 destruction involved :D as for regs? It's 500PP, SH tyres, and no FC tranny for proper 'battles'.
 
I think, yea. I'm new to it as well, so i have not that much clue about how ut works. The bread van works quite well, I tried it. It just needs softer springs.

I see. Maybe I'll prep a car and give it a try. :D I know The Bread Van works, I was chasing RJ around Mt. Aso with it. :lol:
 
I see. Maybe I'll prep a car and give it a try. :D I know The Bread Van works, I was chasing RJ around Mt. Aso with it. :lol:
Well, that tank I sent you has 500PP, you could try that :lol: And they mostly use Toscana Tarmac for it, maybe you can tweak my Brownmobile so that it'll run better on those type of tracks :D

Anyways, I only joined touge racing because I thought "since I've done circuits, and I've got a fairly good car for drag, I think I should go to the other end of the spectrum and try my hand at racing on the extremely twisty stuff". It's bloody tricky, I suck even more at that than I do on normal tracks.
 
Besides the limits that Onboy said, there's the 95% to 100% power limiter and the ballast rule. You can read it on the Clubs and Leagues sub forum. It's called Legend of the Streets. :sly:
See! Though I'm useless at the racing, at least I can do some decent plugging :lol::dopey:
 
I know I didn't really like the R35 but eventually all these crashes would be boring...

Too bad as a Recommended car, he does have full reign over it. Thankfully, I sold my S2k Turbo the instant I trashed it up. :D I just take out the AI noob users of the damn thing now. :D
 
Too bad as a Recommended car, he does have full reign over it. Thankfully, I sold my S2k Turbo the instant I trashed it up. :D I just take out the AI noob users of the damn thing now. :D
Nope, I actually forked out 77k on that damn thing.:ouch:
 
Nope, I actually forked out 77k on that damn thing.:ouch:

At least it's cheap! But then so is the S2k (class-wise), and that's rubbish too :sly: Besides which, you can have a CT230R for only 10k more and instead of the GT-R, you can just have a Z06... :irked:
 
Too bad as a Recommended car, he does have full reign over it. Thankfully, I sold my S2k Turbo the instant I trashed it up. :D I just take out the AI noob users of the damn thing now. :D

From now on, I wouldn't care if people think I'm an R35-hater and R35-hater-hater at the same time. :lol: The best word for me to describe the R35 (and possibly the S2000 GT1 Turbo) is meh. Cars not really worth my time most of the time :lol:

Now if you'll excuse me, I have homeworks to do.
 
At least it's cheap! But then so is the S2k (class-wise), and that's rubbish too :sly: Besides which, you can have a CT230R for only 10k more and instead of the GT-R, you can just have a Z06... :irked:
Well, yea, it's cheap. Like horse and cow manure.:lol: It drives like cattle crap as well, to be honest. In fact, I'd rather the crap than the R35 any day. You should have given me the S2k though. I'm rather fond of them, if only because of emotional value.
 
Well, yea, it's cheap. Like horse and cow manure.:lol: It drives like cattle crap as well, to be honest. In fact, I'd rather the crap than the R35 any day. You should have given me the S2k though. I'm rather fond of them, if only because of emotional value.

To be honest though, for something so techy, you don't expect it to be 77k :irked: The Nissan badge is kinda a fail though. Except it has the GT-R badge on the front :irked:

Also Roj! I sent you the rally base ticket for the shootout. Open it NAO :grumpy:
 
To be honest though, for something so techy, you don't expect it to be 77k :irked: The Nissan badge is kinda a epic fail though. Except it has the GT-R* badge on the front :irked:

Also Roj! I sent you the rally base ticket for the shootout. Open it NAO :grumpy:

*It's a disgrace to the GTR badge. It even disgraces the nissan badge. A car like the R35 shouldn't have a badge. If it ever were to have one, it'll be one with 'NOOB ONLY' written on it.
 
GTFO noob.:P

Nah, I understand that there are opinions in this world, and I freely admit I was once a R35 verging-on-fanboyism supporter, but now age and wisdom has shown me what it really is.:yuck:

but at least I hope we all agree on this one, the S2K Turbo didn't deserve to be in the game. They could put the Aventador instead...
 
but at least I hope we all agree on this one, the S2K Turbo didn't deserve to be in the game. They could put the Aventador instead...
Nope. As I said earlier, it has an emotional value to me that surpasses the 20 mil cr cap. The same can be said for the Ford GT, and the NSX Type R.
 
but at least I hope we all agree on this one, the S2K Turbo didn't deserve to be in the game. They could put the Aventador instead...

The S2k Turbo, according to GT terms, shouldn't even exist. Mind you, that would get rid of the completely normal and fine S2K GT1 too...

But if I had to replace it, I would put in the HSV-010. That is a horrible omission from this game. I would put in the Megane RS 250 as well but that can just be replaced by the other Megane.
 
The S2k Turbo, according to GT terms, shouldn't even exist. Mind you, that would get rid of the completely normal and fine S2K GT1 too...

But if I had to replace it, I would put in the HSV-010. That is a horrible omission from this game. I would put in the Megane RS 250 as well but that can just be replaced by the other Megane.

or change the 2000 Ford Falcon XR8 (V8 Supercar) to a 2010/11 one and change the S2K Turbo for the Holden Commodore '10/'11 V8 Supercar.
 
Ja, mein Führer.

Cool. Make sure you tell me by PM though, you don't want your secrets to unfold :sly: Already done, never mind. :D

BTW I keep looking at your avatar and always keep thinking that the NSX in the avatar is actually a convertible. :lol: Would be quite a puller, I tell you. 👍
 
The S2k Turbo, according to GT terms, shouldn't even exist. Mind you, that would get rid of the completely normal and fine S2K GT1 too...

But if I had to replace it, I would put in the HSV-010. That is a horrible omission from this game. I would put in the Megane RS 250 as well but that can just be replaced by the other Megane.
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Cool. Make sure you tell me by PM though, you don't want your secrets to unfold :sly:

BTW I keep looking at your avatar and always keep thinking that the NSX in the avatar is actually a convertible. :lol: Would be quite a puller, I tell you. 👍

Yeah I've PM'd you. 👍

Now that you mention it, yeah it does. :lol:
 

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