RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

Expect a Lexus LF-A write-up sometime soon. Just-tuned and will be driven tommorow. This time, with pictures and actual lap times.

Any other car you guys want feedback on?
 
Thanks for tuning my CT230R, but there are some things I'm not entirely sure about. It isn't something serious, it's just that it understeered more in the slow sections. Is that how you set it up or is that because I haven't got used to it yet? O well, other than that, it's great! :)
 
As far as the Espirit rating I put it so high because of the fun factor. It's not perfect but I love driving that thing and if you get it right it's really fast. I think you did a great job tuning it.

Thanks mate. 👍

yep, works great on the Team Total, did a 5:56 on the Nürburgring and i didn't push it anywhere near the limits...

Good to hear it, quite a nice time. I've not actually run it at the Ring yet, mainly because I'm afraid it will ruin my senses. :lol:

Well, I tried out the Silvia last night, and fitted parts on the Gallardo, I'll post some reviews tonight. Thanks for the encouragement on the reviews. Sometimes, with forums this big, it's hard to tell if you're contributing or just adding to the pile you have to wade through to get to the good stuff :)



I actually dislike the carbon colored hood on most cars, and usually don't go with red, so my RKM group stands out from my regular cars. I did notice the original tune didn't have a hood done, but went with it purely for the appearance. Unfortunately, having another of each of the supercars so you've tuned has hurt the credit pile, you guys should stick with cheap cars ;) (kidding, of course)

Looking forward to the next few reviews 👍

As for the wallet pains... How do you think I feel? I build a good 10-15 cars for each one I wind up liking it seems these days ><. :lol:

I think you misunderstand me, which I can't exactly blame you for due to my rambling comments... Anyhow, the point I was trying to make was that I'm not a big fan of braking deep into corners, so I tweaked the suspension to coax a bit more of a real-wheel drive handling characteristic out of it.

Mmm; my problem with that is that it's an AWD car; the main advantage is that you can storm into corners, wind up a bit slow through the center, and power out without wheelspin or needing to countersteer. It's better to concentrate on the strengths (traction mainly) than try to compensate for the weaknesses (on-throttle understeer) I find.

Expect a Lexus LF-A write-up sometime soon. Just-tuned and will be driven tommorow. This time, with pictures and actual lap times.

Any other car you guys want feedback on?

The two new ones would be nice. 👍

Thanks for tuning my CT230R, but there are some things I'm not entirely sure about. It isn't something serious, it's just that it understeered more in the slow sections. Is that how you set it up or is that because I haven't got used to it yet? O well, other than that, it's great! :)

It's most likely due to the way I set it up. If you noticed, torque bias is now much further forward than you had it and it's pretty much impossible to spin it as a result of that and the differential settings. This can be used to great effect in slower corners: Drive it in harder, let it rotate, power out.
 
can i have a nurburg ring tune for a r32 on a controller as my tune aint that great please

Can you at least look at the first post?

First off, we have an R32 tune, it was done with a controller, and will work excellently on the Ring.

Second off:
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We&#8217;re continuing our &#8220;1 review = 1 tune&#8221; offer. You review a car of ours from the above lists and in exchange, we&#8217;ll tune up a car for you. It's preferred you supply the car with all wanted parts already equipped but not 100% needed (may take more time if we have to buy + modify the car).

We like detailed reviews, such as this, this, and this. Hint hint. Videos accompanying the reviews are even better. ;)
 
Mmm; my problem with that is that it's an AWD car; the main advantage is that you can storm into corners, wind up a bit slow through the center, and power out without wheelspin or needing to countersteer. It's better to concentrate on the strengths (traction mainly) than try to compensate for the weaknesses (on-throttle understeer) I find.

Good point. With that in mind, I'll be doing some more runs in it tonight...
 
RKM Motorsport&#8217;s 787B Black Beauty

Thank you sooo much for this tune! I am using it on the non stealth version and its simply wonderful! I am doing the Suzuka endurance now and its spot on!

Half way through I just did a 1.49.7 and I am sooo happy. I know its not that fast but I am enjoying the ride. I am using a G25 and this setup is the best I have used so far.

Not sure how to add a picture but here is one I tool after six hours or racing using this setup, Just amazing! Thank you again
 

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S13 Silvia Speed Star
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Fresh out of the Dealer: 167 HP, 1140 kg, 388 PP, Comfort Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:54.350
Thoughts: About what you'd expect from a low HP RWD car. Yawn. About the only excitement is when you doze off on the back straight and forget to brake.

Parts added, no settings changes: 340 HP, 965 kg, 498 PP, Sport Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:39.193
Thoughts: Obviously, it's faster now, but still a bit of a boring drive. Tendancy to oversteer leaving a turn when the wheels aren't spinning, which happened only occasionally. Nothing tragically wrong with the car, but nothing terrific either.

Parts added, RKM Tune, 5 lap first impression: 340 HP, 965 kg, 498 PP, Sport Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:39.531
Thoughts: I'm not sure if it's my driving style, but on first try, this tune is not working for me. I found the back end breaking loose more often, and with less control. The handling through transitions also seemed to be a little more shakey than with the stock settings. I may have been pushing harder, subconsciously, knowing it had the tune, but I don't think so.

After a couple more races...
Best Lap Time: 1:37.614
Thoughts: OK, I take it back. I'm not sure what I was doing in the car to produce the traction and handling issues, but it was definitely me. On the next couple of go 'rounds, the car finally settled in. It's still a fairly neutral car, a bit boring and hard to push faster, at least for me. I am curious as to why the rear spoiler was left off, as it really felt like a little downforce on the rear wheels would have planted it that much more and would allow for a harder push on corner exits. The car may be the "King" model, but the performace was definitely not up to the name, and gets put to shame by the other RKM tunes in the same HP class.

Gallardo LP710 Superleggera
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Fresh out of the Dealer: 564 HP, 1410 kg, 549 PP, Sports Hard Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:39.444
Thoughts: Pros: Accelleration is tremendous, and virtually no traction issues when on the gas. Cons: There are traction issues the rest of the time. Tires went red on the brakes going into a corner or on a straight, and tires went red going through corners at anything close to race speed. The great traction on the gas helped produce massive oversteer. Basically, if I was pushing the car at all, my basic corner went like this: Brakes, slide, apex, slide, gas, oversteer into wall. I can see why so many of these show up on the wrecked exotics web site.

Parts added, no settings changes: 738 HP, 1282 kg, 604 PP, Sports Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:30.435
Thoughts: Even more amazing acceleration... and more oversteer. At least now the tires can keep up with braking without melting. I went with the late apex approach, but the car handled so slowly that it felt like I had to park it to square off the corner. Not sure if I gained any time, but at least it was more controlled and I hit fewer walls on exit.
Toughts2: Oh, carp. I accidentally had TC on at 5 (drove my other Gallardo for the stock run). Didn't make much of a difference, though, as this car's strength was on-throttle traction, and my lap times were virtually identical.

Parts added, RKM Tune, 5 lap first impression: 741 HP, 1282 kg, 607 PP, Sports Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:30.810
Thoughts: Different car, same results. The oversteer has been reigned in, it slows better, and seems to have a bit more corner speed, but at the cost of slightly less traction mid-corner. It felt like that was because corner speed was now limited by the tires rather than the car just not being able to turn. More time to adjust is needed, especially since two of my brake spots were while the car was in mid-air, and the best brakes in the world won't help you there.

After a couple more races...
Best Lap Time: 1:28.679
Thoughts: The more I drove, the faster I went, and I don't think I hit my wall before I stopped. Every lap I was cutting tenths off my time, but as fast as this machine is, going faster makes it harder to go faster, as the brake markers are constantly scooting up as you reach higher speeds on the straights, which is a much bigger deal in a 750 HP supercar than a 350 HP sports car. The car still understeers, just due to the mad acceleration out of the corner. However, braking a hair late, sliding the back end around a bit, being patient through the turn to avoid getting on throttle too quick, squaring it off and taking the late apex really pays off as you launch out of the corner onto the straight. Very fast, very fun car. I wish we could put some front downforce on it, though, to keep that nose down over the crests of hills.
 
Is there a certain track you guys are using for test laps? I've noticed lap times posted from time to time with no mention made of what track the runs were made on.

Perhaps I'm seeing the lap times out of context? Like in a reply or something...
 
Like The Wind at Indianapolis. Couple minutes of racing and boom, 70k.

As for the ZR-1... Maybe. Maybe. Don't think it would be too different from the Z06 though. A tiny bit faster, maybe, but the general character of the car would be roughly the same. Which is to say, a soulless race car that rips everything's head off.

Funny you should mention the Corvettes and Like the Wind in the same post (and in two different contexts). I applied your Z06 settings to me ZR1 (and even used Sports Tyres) and blew away the LMP cars in Like the Wind Indy.

30 minutes and about $500k later I was trying out your Gallardo tune!
 
Keep in mind, I never claimed to be fast :) I'm pretty new still at racing without any driving aids, although I've been playing GT since the first version. I mostly gave the times as comparisons between the de-tuned and tuned car, as well as between cars with the same driver and the same track.
 
LF-A review done except for lap time testing. It'll be up tommorow.

Capuccino car is tuned (already had it), waiting to drive it after the LF-A. Will buy Evo IV after that.
 
has anyone reviewed the ER34 yet? I'm thinking of getting one and I'm not sure if any1 has reviewed it yet (can't check, at skl)
 
Thank you sooo much for this tune! I am using it on the non stealth version and its simply wonderful! I am doing the Suzuka endurance now and its spot on!

Half way through I just did a 1.49.7 and I am sooo happy. I know its not that fast but I am enjoying the ride. I am using a G25 and this setup is the best I have used so far.

Not sure how to add a picture but here is one I tool after six hours or racing using this setup, Just amazing! Thank you again
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
S13 Silvia Speed Star
Silvia.jpg


Fresh out of the Dealer: 167 HP, 1140 kg, 388 PP, Comfort Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:54.350
Thoughts: About what you'd expect from a low HP RWD car. Yawn. About the only excitement is when you doze off on the back straight and forget to brake.

Parts added, no settings changes: 340 HP, 965 kg, 498 PP, Sport Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:39.193
Thoughts: Obviously, it's faster now, but still a bit of a boring drive. Tendancy to oversteer leaving a turn when the wheels aren't spinning, which happened only occasionally. Nothing tragically wrong with the car, but nothing terrific either.

Parts added, RKM Tune, 5 lap first impression: 340 HP, 965 kg, 498 PP, Sport Soft Tires
Best Lap Time: 1:39.531
Thoughts: I'm not sure if it's my driving style, but on first try, this tune is not working for me. I found the back end breaking loose more often, and with less control. The handling through transitions also seemed to be a little more shakey than with the stock settings. I may have been pushing harder, subconsciously, knowing it had the tune, but I don't think so.

After a couple more races...
Best Lap Time: 1:37.614
Thoughts: OK, I take it back. I'm not sure what I was doing in the car to produce the traction and handling issues, but it was definitely me. On the next couple of go 'rounds, the car finally settled in. It's still a fairly neutral car, a bit boring and hard to push faster, at least for me. I am curious as to why the rear spoiler was left off, as it really felt like a little downforce on the rear wheels would have planted it that much more and would allow for a harder push on corner exits. The car may be the "King" model, but the performace was definitely not up to the name, and gets put to shame by the other RKM tunes in the same HP class.
The spoiler was left off because it was ugly. RKM parts logic at full force right there. :lol: I understand that it's a bit unentertaining to drive on anything other than a really tight Mt. Aso course so I can understand your complaints. 👍
has anyone reviewed the ER34 yet? I'm thinking of getting one and I'm not sure if any1 has reviewed it yet (can't check, at skl)
Nope. No one. It's a review virgin. :(
 
BLiTZ ER34 Grip Tune

Fresh out of the Dealer: Nope, not going to run this one stock. I tried it once, and absolutely hated trying to race a drift car like a real car.

<note> Most of the listed mods for this build come stock on the car. The only thing I spent money on was oil, rigidity, transmission, and tires.

Parts added, RKM Tune, 5 lap first impression: 594 HP, 1252 kg, 596 PP, Sports Soft Tires at Trial Mountain
Best Lap Time: 1:33.225
Thoughts: Look Gepetto! The Blue Fairy showed up today and turned me into a REAL race car!

After a couple more races...
Best Lap Time: 1:30.183
Thoughts: This car still has flashbacks of being a drifter: when in 2nd gear, dealing with abrupt elevation changes, or arguing with an Audi over who should be in first. However, that is to be expected when you're powering a pair of sport softs with almost 600 HP on a FR platform. This car has been transformed from an painful, gripless driving torture into an absolute blast to drive. The braking was very solid, slowing the car quickly with almost zero sideways slide, and the mid-corner speed was very good when it wasn't eaten by a controllable 2nd gear power-slide, and as soon as you hit 3rd gear the car launched nicely. The only consistant problem I had was coming out of the 180 left between the back straight and the S turns, as the bumps in the road kept pushing the car into a slide. Overall, this has become a very driveable car, and competant on a road course without needing to leave too many black marks.
 
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Just bought an ER34, I drove it stock without changing the settings and it was like trying to tame a dragon. It would not stick to the track without smoking its rears. I know it was a drift car, but it felt so loose as I went around the corners of the TG test track. And when it's drifting, it's hard to get it to go in the right direction.
I once raced against one of these on trial mountain, and could not believe how bad it was. Even on racing softs, it kept on slithering about in front of me. After a lap, I overtook him. (I was in an FC with 420 hp, that's how tricky to drive the ER34 was)
After using your tune, it felt better. It felt like a proper car. It still drifts, but it can be tamed. It does require you to be slightly more cautious, and it would snap and send you spinning in a huge cloud of tyre smoke when you overstep the mark, but it doesn't feel like it wants to. It just wants to play, all the time. It's always trying to catch you off guard. But a full lap of the top gear test track was done without a hint of tyre smoke. So it can be made to grip, but doing so would require a very gentle style of driving.
 
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BLiTZ ER34 Grip Tune

Fresh out of the Dealer: Nope, not going to run this one stock. I tried it once, and absolutely hated trying to race a drift car like a real car.

<note> Most of the listed mods for this build come stock on the car. The only thing I spent money on was oil, rigidity, transmission, and tires.

Parts added, RKM Tune, 5 lap first impression: 594 HP, 1252 kg, 596 PP, Sports Soft Tires at Trial Mountain
Best Lap Time: 1:33.225
Thoughts: Look Gepetto! The Blue Fairy showed up today and turned me into a REAL race car!

After a couple more races...
Best Lap Time: 1:30.183
Thoughts: This car still has flashbacks of being a drifter: when in 2nd gear, dealing with abrupt elevation changes, or arguing with an Audi over who should be in first. However, that is to be expected when you're powering a pair of sport softs with almost 600 HP on a FR platform. This car has been transformed from an painful, gripless driving torture into an absolute blast to drive. The braking was very solid, slowing the car quickly with almost zero sideways slide, and the mid-corner speed was very good when it wasn't eaten by a controllable 2nd gear power-slide, and as soon as you hit 3rd gear the car launched nicely. The only consistant problem I had was coming out of the 180 left between the back straight and the S turns, as the bumps in the road kept pushing the car into a slide. Overall, this has become a very driveable car, and competant on a road course without needing to leave too many black marks.

Just bought an ER34, I drove it stock without changing the settings and it was like trying to tame a dragon. It would not stick to the track without smoking its rears. I know it was a drift car, but it felt so loose as I went around the corners of the TG test track. And when it's drifting, it's hard to get it to go in the right direction.
I once raced against one of these on trial mountain, and could not believe how bad it was. Even on racing softs, it kept on slithering about in front of me. After a lap, I overtook him. (I was in an FC with 420 hp, that's how tricky to drive the ER34 was)
After using your tune, it felt better. It felt like a proper car. It still drifts, but it can be tamed. It does require you to be slightly more cautious, and it would snap and send you spinning in a huge cloud of tyre smoke when you overstep the mark, but it doesn't feel like it wants to. It just wants to play, all the time. It's always trying to catch you off guard. But a full lap of the top gear test track was done without a hint of tyre smoke. So it can be made to grip, but doing so would require a very gentle style of driving.

Thanks for the reviews you two! It is a 600bhp FR so it's bound to get tricky at low speeds. The good thing is, it's got good downforce so at high speed it really shines. With that said, seems you're both experiencing the same things with the car so I'm happy with that. Thanks! 👍
 
lol the tune is impressive, it's such an improvement that I've decided to let you try to tame another drift monkey :D
so please tune my arse-engined ruf CTR yellowbird so it'll stick to the track with as little oversteer as possible.
just don't expect it to be too easy, with 730 hp and weighs 1086kg, it's a pig to drive fast

(well it's either the ruf or a FC rx7, your choice)
 
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Great work! I love your rx8 tune! XD
Keep it up and id love it if you would consider the amuse s2000 turbo? Alot of people love it and are looking for that perfect tune so maybe you should consider.
 
Up to you. Probably better to PM though. 👍

Was my Cappuccino more understeery or oversteery? I've never really tuned a Kei-car before so I don't know what it should be doing. :lol: I'll sort it out. 👍

Will send a PM soon once I decide my tune. I've got many things on my mind I would want as of now...

And the Cappuccino seemed a bit more oversteery for me than my previous tune. In the actual race I came second to last, but that's cause I'm not a pro driver. :lol: Unlike the others who know how to get round properly :lol:
 
actually, forget my earlier requests, i would like you to tune a Option Z for me.

and has any1 reviewed the SP1 and the DB9 yet?
 
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