Ok, so I've read up to post #62, and really, REALLY need to do something else, I wasn't planning on making much time for GT4 tonight, but it appears I'm already doing it. Damn addictions...
First of all, I voted yes. Second of all, after reading further through this thread, I think I'm going to say
NO. I HAVE in the past conversed with others about final times before the end of the week, but only maybe 3-4 times since week 7 of GT4 WRS. I don't think I have ever watched a replay with the intent of improving my time, not necessarily even AFTER the week's race is over. I'm just too lazy.
Dave_George
I only hope that whatever happens it doesnt damage the WRS and that the figure of participating drivers goes up and not down as each week goes by....
I agree 100 and 90 millionty percent.
ballstothewall
Allow full lap-time discussion, but not replay posting.
Interesting idea there, mate. I like it actually. But possibly not enough.
luxy
I love watching two drivers trade laps back and forth, one-upping each other, even when I'm not involved. I think everyone's missing out when all of that action is taking place backchannel, not only in advantage, but in enjoyment also.
That happens even out of the "backchannel", but I'm sure not nearly as much. It'd be nice for it to happen more often, but there just aren't that many people racing in the WRS anymore. Back when I started, it appeared that people would race against people in their division that normally finish relatively close to each other in the results each week. As far as I knew, up until at least 10-15-20 weeks in for me), it was just going by the last sector time allowed to be posted. It may very well have been going on in PMs and on MSN. I don't have MSN, and don't want to get it, but if I want to know someone's time, I could easily PM them. I think I have done that maybe twice, and just with someone who is relatively close to my posted T times, and then challenge them to a competition between ourselves. Not necessarily giving each other advice, but more just posting our last time and encouraging the other to go back and beat it.
Kent
Also, tips on tuning and techniques should and are already shared, if that's a backchannel thing then the character of backchannelers who withhold info from the general wrs population needs to be checked- not the wrs.
AGREED! 👍
T13R
If it were to go ahead, I wouldn't want replays to be shared during the week, but I guess final times could be ok. Maybe if the final time is given as say 1'34.5xx, we would still know approximately the final time, but there is still that one tenth of uncertainty. Of course it will still remain impossible to make sure no one discusses full lap times and exchange replays elsewhere. I even admit I did it once when I had no clue what I was doing wrong.
Again, I like this idea, and like again the addition to Neil's suggestion with the xx bit on the end. But, who knows. I may still like it withOUT any final time discussion. Even without the final time discussion in the main WRS thread itself, I will not care that people talk behind the thread about whatever. Ghost swapping is kind of annoying, but still I don't care that much. I'd rather know that people are improving because of them pushing themselves, rather than following someone else's setup/line and adapting to that. STILL, that does not bug me too much. I dunno.
I'd LOVE for all the talk and discussion that goes on on MSN to come over to the main thread. But with the times left out. I really wish I could participate in the full conversations though, but of course, Instant messenges will do that much more easily.
It's all good. But, if people start to talk about how they're taking lines or whatever/etc, it'd be
AWESOME if they could also cut and paste their findings over to the weekly thread, etc.
Inferno, I'm ALL for people coming up with their own lines and driving style as well.
FWIW, I did not buy a maxdrive to watch other people's replays to become faster, I only bought one so that I can post my stuff and not be thought of as a cheater. I now have no problems with posting my replay each and every week, as when I get a fast time, I can put it on the maxdrive first thing and not worry about it being the wrong replay because I just saved it. Although, I'm lazy, and do not bother EVERY week, even so.
If at all possible, I think that my final conclusion(thus far) on this topic is that we allow posting final times up to the TENTH(rounded up or down as necessary, as in .501 is a .5xx, and a .551 is a .6xx), and NO replay transferring. And I'd LOVE it if people on the backchannels could abide by these rules as well. I think that this way we'd maintain the fun(mostly) of finding out the results in the results thread, but we still have a damn good idea of where someone else is at and we can go and try to catch up to and surpass them. Then, of course, transfer as much info as we can just about what we learn during the course of the week IN the main race thread.
And, FWIW, a few in the JGTC series already think(poorly, actually) of a place where people just post up times and then try to be king of the hill. Pfft, whatever. Over there, final time discussion is(I think?) more highly discouraged, and there aren't as many people helping each other out. If that's the type of racing you'd like to be a part of, and it IS fun, join up! It's a great series, and I'd like to play that way, AS WELL AS, the way we play in the WRS. And any version of the WRS. WRS for lifE! 👍
