Rumour: Yamauchi won't talk about GT5 at E3 !!

Big guns on the 360? The only thing the 360 offers is a cheap alternative to a gaming PC to play networked FPS's. I still only have Forza 2 for the 360. Meanwhile I have most of the games FoolKiller mentioned on my PS3 and more besides. 14 Blu-Ray games so far, and I bought Prologue twice. Willingly. ;)

The only game which interests me from the Ms conference, and that's mildly, is Forza 3. Meanwhile, I want about half the PS3 library out, and coming, especially Ratchet & Clank Future and GT5. And I will have them all within a year. Microsoft should be a little happy that at some point I'll double my 360 library. :D
 
FM3 menu:

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Hating those ratings, has arcade all over it.


What's with the drivetrain? Why is the rear only highlighted. Silly M$, don't they know it's AWD? :dunce:
 
Seriously, if Sony doesn't show GT5 tomorrow, then they're dead to me, I couldn't care less about a GT PSP really, since playing GT on an analogue stick is not good enough after experiencing the G25, playing on PSP's analogue is going to give me nightmares. On the other hand, Forza 3 looks incredibly lame, the game looks so cartoony, I can't pick out any definite details, but the whole thing just looks like some kind of hyperrealistic cartoon.

Show us your best game Sony! Don't show us a water down version of it after making us wait for god knows how many years now. I'd pay 39.99 to watch a E3 GT5 showing... oh wait... someone must stop Sony's slow morph into Square Enix in terms of becoming annoying and pesky teases.

Also, this is probably just a rumor, hopefully, but just the thought of Sony going on stage all "K so... yeah, no GT5, but here's Gran Turismo which should've come out ages ago on our worst-looking-gadget-of-the-year-award-winning new PSP whatever LOL!" makes me want to go take a nap.
 
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I got to say the MS press conference wasn´t very good... It didn´t impressed me (Forza 3 was ok) and I think they know that Sonys PS3 is beginning to kick the 360 in the ass... (but the only reason to buy a 360 is FM3 for me)

Sony got the much much better exclusive games coming and also I love the possibilitys of my PS3...

I really think the Sony Press conference will be mind blowing tomorrow (even if we get no GT5)

God of War III will be the craziest game ever I think...
 
Yeah I don´t like this ratings too... that looks like the arcade games where you insert a coin to play in the gaming hall...

But for me the graphics are good enough!

And damn! they know how to marketing a product! there are a lot of news on the FM3 homepage and I think we get dayly (is that correct?) updates,pictures and videos!

Can we expect that from PD tomorrow? after a GT5 presentation the official GT5 website goes online and we dayly get new stuff and infos?

Its always been like that, the main reason I saw for it was to give you a broad idea of what upgrades are going to do and how different cars compare. Adding tires that will put you into the next class but aren't vastly superior to the ones already on the car, and stuff like that.

I'm not sure about Forza 2 since I dont own an xbox 360, but even Forza 1 had its tuning in real units and not just arbitrary numbers. Even GTR2 gives you arbitrary numbers instead of real figures (though in GTR you can modify the config files to show you what the real units are, its just to most people the real units dont mean anything more than arbitrary numbers anyway).

What's with the drivetrain? Why is the rear only highlighted. Silly M$, don't they know it's AWD? :dunce:

Maybe it means you can modify the driveline configuration :P I've always wanted to turn a cheap front wheel drive car into an awesome rear wheel drive car.
 
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Seriously, if Sony doesn't show GT5 tomorrow, then they're dead to me
Wow... don't you think that's kind of excessive? I don't know, maybe you're one of those people who ONLY play Gran Turismo games. But SONY is way more than just GT. There are half a dozen games I'm all hot n bothered over, and dozens which I intend to buy. And when GT5 is ready, I will have already pre-ordered in full and will be waiting in line with the other hundreds of people to get it in my sweaty little... well, big hands. ;)

But I have 14 Blu-Ray games and counting for the PS3, and I'm just getting started.
 

I dont know, they made some obscure billboards lower res to help frame rate. Big deal really

In GT5P I very rarely get slowdown, so any diminishing of the graphics for GT5 would be minor, for example making an obscure billboard lower res

GTHD was 1500x1080 or something, while GT5P is 1280x1080

Who cares really, I dont see the difference between the two. And if PD has to do further downscaling to include extra features like rain or day night, then go for it. They would have to do ALOT of downscaling (including cutting half the field and 360 more vertical lines out) to get anywhere near FM3's level

In the end, it looks like Microsoft's viral campaign worked, Forza 3 is now unduly over hyped thanks to a trailer that shows FM2 with improved graphics (I guess improved though every shot has a different level of graphics quality), a cockpit view, some more tracks, cars, and maybe a couple of extra modes.

Forza 3 crashes

 
I hate to be one of those people to vilify Polyphony and Sony over a simple video game... but I've really lost patience with the whole GT series.

There was a time when I loved GT3, then GT4, and for a while GT5 prologue. I played every day. I bought a PS3 just so I could be ready when the next GT release came out. Frankly, however, I'm so sick of waiting for a full release that I just don't care anymore. My PS3 is sitting there collecting dust.

I have other games, but none I like enough to play more than once a week. a year ago, I would have paid a fortune for GT5. Now, I just can't seem to muster the interest. Obviously, I wasted my money buying a PS3 at all.

If my experience is typical, Sony just lost the opportunity to make a lot of money. And I'll think twice before I get suckered into buying a Sony console again.
 
Big Guns? What about Resiatance 2, Uncharted2 , Killzone2 , Little Big Planet, Warhawk, MAG, etc? All the big guns are not on 360.

Maybe all your preferred titles, but not all in general.


I'll give the same challenge I gave in the other thread. Show me two credible sources that say that.

I think big names are Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, GTA, Resident Evil. These games sell 5-14 million and are established franchises. Plus they have Gears which sells 4-6 million at full price. CoD 4 & WaW sells double on xbox 360. Games on 360 usually sell quickly at full price.

With all respect to Killzone 2, 1.5 million is not a lot when you look how much that game cost to make. R2 is 1.5, the public aren't going for these games. It's a shame K2 gets outsold on the PS3 by Call of Duty World at War re-skin. Me, you and Tenacious D won't keep sony going strong against MS. I'm looking at the sales and what mainstream buy. LBP was less than half price after a few weeks.

I bought Killzone 2, LBP, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Valkyria Chronicles, GT5p Japan and PAL copies, I hope Yakuza 3 makes it to the west (I own Y1&2) I have no interest in RE5, CoD, Halo, Gears. I might buy the next MGS and FF in time. I'm talking about the mainstream punter not the early adopter.

Just seems MS are slowly ousting Sony and don't care how much it costs. Marketing is almost zero for Sony while I watch the TV for 5 mins and I see 360 ads. It's like blanket marketing for the past year.

Uncharted 2 and GoW III are fairly big and could be bigger this time but Sony is getting out muscled and will they get their money back from making the PS3 and money they put into games like K2? I'm concerned as a gamer that all Sony's amazing high quality games and huge cost to make them and reliable system are just not being recognized and MS are too much to compete with.

Anyway I don't want to derail the thread and have owned Atari, Nintendo, Sega Machines in the past and things move on. But I love GT and the backing it gets from Sony plus the other stuff.
 
Has everyone already forgotten that one of amars 6 rumour winds has been proven correct already with gt mobile and the new PSP Go?? If anything the announcement of gt mobile should strengthen your belief of the other 5 rumours and for GT5 to appear at E3.
 
I hate to be one of those people to vilify Polyphony and Sony over a simple video game... but I've really lost patience with the whole GT series.

There was a time when I loved GT3, then GT4, and for a while GT5 prologue. I played every day. I bought a PS3 just so I could be ready when the next GT release came out. Frankly, however, I'm so sick of waiting for a full release that I just don't care anymore. My PS3 is sitting there collecting dust.

I have other games, but none I like enough to play more than once a week. a year ago, I would have paid a fortune for GT5. Now, I just can't seem to muster the interest. Obviously, I wasted my money buying a PS3 at all.

If my experience is typical, Sony just lost the opportunity to make a lot of money. And I'll think twice before I get suckered into buying a Sony console again.

And if Amar's winds are true, and GT5 launches at the end of this year with 96 tracks, and 5-600 cars, which equals or exceeds Forza 3's, was your frustration with GT5's release date founded?

Considering it took just as long for Turn 10 to develop the same amount of content and both games appear to be releasing at the same time, is it fair to say PD is lazy or slow or Sony is somehow at fault?

But in the end, if you bought a PS3 just to get ONE game with no verified release date, then maybe you have too much money?
 
I dont agree with rumours but waiting is worth it. IMO the quality is better for it.

Compared to say an ok game that just meets some requirements and then you forget quickly ;)
 
I think big names are Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, GTA, Resident Evil. These games sell 5-14 million and are established franchises. Plus they have Gears which sells 4-6 million at full price. CoD 4 & WaW sells double on xbox 360. Games on 360 usually sell quickly at full price.

With all respect to Killzone 2, 1.5 million is not a lot when you look how much that game cost to make. R2 is 1.5, the public aren't going for these games. It's a shame K2 gets outsold on the PS3 by Call of Duty World at War re-skin. Me, you and Tenacious D won't keep sony going strong against MS. I'm looking at the sales and what mainstream buy. LBP was less than half price after a few weeks.

I bought Killzone 2, LBP, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Valkyria Chronicles, GT5p Japan and PAL copies, I hope Yakuza 3 makes it to the west (I own Y1&2) I have no interest in RE5, CoD, Halo, Gears. I might buy the next MGS and FF in time. I'm talking about the mainstream punter not the early adopter.

Just seems MS are slowly ousting Sony and don't care how much it costs. Marketing is almost zero for Sony while I watch the TV for 5 mins and I see 360 ads. It's like blanket marketing for the past year.

Uncharted 2 and GoW III are fairly big and could be bigger this time but Sony is getting out muscled and will they get their money back from making the PS3 and money they put into games like K2? I'm concerned as a gamer that all Sony's amazing high quality games and huge cost to make them and reliable system are just not being recognized and MS are too much to compete with.

Anyway I don't want to derail the thread and have owned Atari, Nintendo, Sega Machines in the past and things move on. But I love GT and the backing it gets from Sony plus the other stuff.
You're talking out you're ass. Sony has 6 of the top 10 selling ps3 games ever. Price is the problem. FF, MGS, GTA are all on the ps3. Sony 1st party is really good but price is stopping certain titles being break out games. LBP for example. Price is the only issue if that's dealt with things could very quickly change.
 
I hate to be one of those people to vilify Polyphony and Sony over a simple video game... but I've really lost patience with the whole GT series.

There was a time when I loved GT3, then GT4, and for a while GT5 prologue. I played every day. I bought a PS3 just so I could be ready when the next GT release came out. Frankly, however, I'm so sick of waiting for a full release that I just don't care anymore. My PS3 is sitting there collecting dust.

I have other games, but none I like enough to play more than once a week. a year ago, I would have paid a fortune for GT5. Now, I just can't seem to muster the interest. Obviously, I wasted my money buying a PS3 at all.

If my experience is typical, Sony just lost the opportunity to make a lot of money. And I'll think twice before I get suckered into buying a Sony console again.
Hmm. I think this rumor is to try to puff up Forza by MS. You know as if they're equals. You know GT is the biggest selling racing game of all time?. I'm sure GT5 will make a startling appearance.:)
 
I hate to be one of those people to vilify Polyphony and Sony over a simple video game... but I've really lost patience with the whole GT series.

You know, I have noticed something. Almost every person that comes on here and snivels about losing patience with PD is a newbie member. 💡

Well if it were the same price as 360 there would be afew more PS3 :P

XB360 = been out longer, no Blu-Ray drive.

I still think the PS3 is a good deal for what it does. Especially considering that online play is free makes up for it.
 
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You're talking out you're ass. Sony has 6 of the top 10 selling ps3 games ever. Price is the problem. FF, MGS, GTA are all on the ps3. Sony 1st party is really good but price is stopping certain titles being break out games. LBP for example. Price is the only issue if that's dealt with things could very quickly change.

Where do you get your stats?
8/10 are Sony games and 9/10 are exclusives.

Also, price is the issue as Sony has yet to lower the price on any existing versions of the PS3. They need to have one that is at least $299.
 
Considering it took just as long for Turn 10 to develop the same amount of content and both games appear to be releasing at the same time, is it fair to say PD is lazy or slow or Sony is somehow at fault?

But in the end, if you bought a PS3 just to get ONE game with no verified release date, then maybe you have too much money?

well, i actually bought a PS3 to play Gt5, but i didnt bought it because i have too much money, i spend around a year saving for it and i didnt bought a X360 because i just dont have the money to pay for it i mean, lets do quick math, i bought the ps3 at 399$ in a travel i made to the Us , the X360 with 120Gb HDD costs 350$+Wifi adapter+Fan+Online Costs+ Price maintaining it, because where i live (near to the end of the world) we dont have any technical guarantee/Support From M$ so it just wasnt quite a good choice for me and i dont want to stop playing every hour by fear of getting my Console ****ed Up...so hey, atm im pretty frustrated too because ive seen too good games (FM2 and 3) and ill never be able to play em, so GT5 should be at least as good as FM3:scared: and btw if possible i would like it before Holidays 2010:grumpy:
 
You know, I have noticed something. Almost every person that comes on here and snivels about losing patience with PD is a newbie member.

Actually I've been here since GT3, but there just hasn't been much to post about since GT4...

Look, I'm not saying "I hate Sony"... I'm just saying they lost an opportunity to build on the momentum of the fan base and bring the PS3 into it's own as the dominant console it should be.

And yeah, I did buy a PS3 JUST for GT5. That's testimony to the power of the GT franchise to drive console sales. It's a pity they didn't deliver GT5 earlier, because if they're losing people like me, the casual gamer is already gone.

Consider that GT4 was released in Early 2005. If we get a full GT5 on the shelves by early 2010, that will be 5 years between releases. That means (in the US) that if you were in 8th grade (13 years old) when GT4 came out, could be in your first year at a University (18 years old) when GT5 is finally released. The entire period one attended highschool, no new GT releases. In a world where one year is an eternity for a teenager. This is a marketing disaster for Sony... no wonder PS3 is playing second fiddle to Xbox360, despite being a better system.
 
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And yeah, I did buy a PS3 JUST for GT5. That's testimony to the power of the GT franchise to drive console sales. It's a pity they didn't deliver GT5 earlier, because if they're losing people like me, the casual gamer is already gone.

Exactly why I bought one. I still play GT5:P at least a couple times a week and will hang on to my system until the full version graces us with it's presence. I am patient.
 
well, i actually bought a PS3 to play Gt5, but i didnt bought it because i have too much money, i spend around a year saving for it and i didnt bought a X360 because i just dont have the money to pay for it i mean, lets do quick math, i bought the ps3 at 399$ in a travel i made to the Us , the X360 with 120Gb HDD costs 350$+Wifi adapter+Fan+Online Costs+ Price maintaining it, because where i live (near to the end of the world) we dont have any technical guarantee/Support From M$ so it just wasnt quite a good choice for me and i dont want to stop playing every hour by fear of getting my Console ****ed Up...so hey, atm im pretty frustrated too because ive seen too good games (FM2 and 3) and ill never be able to play em, so GT5 should be at least as good as FM3:scared: and btw if possible i would like it before Holidays 2010:grumpy:
cry me a river why dont you. But make sure you watch Sony conference.
 
Once Turn 10 revealed Forza 3, this entire thread just went out of control. Have Turn 10 really messed up the GT fans? :scared:
No it's a clever marketing trick by them. Making out GT is scared etc. To claim more exposure. And the 3million averaging forza is GT. wait till tomorrow.:)
 
Actually I've been here since GT3, but there just hasn't been much to post about since GT4...

Look, I'm not saying "I hate Sony"... I'm just saying they lost an opportunity to build on the momentum of the fan base and bring the PS3 into it's own as the dominant console it should be.

And yeah, I did buy a PS3 JUST for GT5. That's testimony to the power of the GT franchise to drive console sales. It's a pity they didn't deliver GT5 earlier, because if they're losing people like me, the casual gamer is already gone.

And if the causal gamer or GT fan has already left to pick up Forza 2 or has decided to go with 360/Forza 3 instead of PS3/GT5, then good riddance. If you're willing to settle for second best in video games then I'm sure your willing to settle for second best in alot of things in life.

It's not like PD is sitting on thier hands or development has screeched to a hault.

According to Amar when the game is ready it will be huge. Compare the PS2 GT games to the PS3 GT games.

GT3 came out with 150 cars, while GT4 had 600+.

I think PD has decided to skip the GT3 phase for the PS3 and they are spending the extra time to go straight to the GT4 phase, as including all the cars and tracks they have a license for.

I'd rather them do that, then release GT5 lets say last year with 150 cars, and a dozen tracks, only to, like Forza, release a new game 2 years later with features, cars, and tracks that they didn't have time to include. Or worst, release a majority of the game via DLC.

amar has said GT5 will be the feast of the Gods, so is there any reason to think GT5 will not be worth the wait?

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Consider that GT4 was released in Early 2005. If we get a full GT5 on the shelves by early 2010, that will be 5 years between releases. That means (in the US) that if you were in 8th grade (13 years old) when GT4 came out, could be in your first year at a University (18 years old) when GT5 is finally released. The entire period one attended highschool, no new GT releases.


Forza 1
Early 2005

Gran Turismo 4
Early 2005

Forza 3 (First proper Forza game on 360)
Late 2009 release

Gran Turismo 5 (First proper GT game on PS3)
Late 2009 release

But PD is somehow dragging their feet?

Is it EA that makes people want a new game from a franchise every year or two? Guess what, that's why EA sucks, they rush games from a franchise out every 1-2 years without giving them any real update.
 
Wow... don't you think that's kind of excessive? I don't know, maybe you're one of those people who ONLY play Gran Turismo games. But SONY is way more than just GT. There are half a dozen games I'm all hot n bothered over, and dozens which I intend to buy. And when GT5 is ready, I will have already pre-ordered in full and will be waiting in line with the other hundreds of people to get it in my sweaty little... well, big hands. ;)

But I have 14 Blu-Ray games and counting for the PS3, and I'm just getting started.
You're right, GT really is one of the only games I play, I've also played a game called Metal Gear Solid 4, but mainly my interest in playstation is Gran Turismo, I just want to see how far along it is, and a confirmation that it's coming out in this millennium, before the sith takes over again. I understand how people want a perfect game, but it's been a LONG time, there really isn't any excuses if Kaz demands another year to work on the game. Now that virtually every other Playstation franchise has been bought off by Microsoft, Sony should really show off their own stuff which obliterates anything Square or other developers that jumped ship could make.

If GT5 is a no show tomorrow, then that'll be 2 E3s in a row where the biggest game from Playstation 2's time haven't been at E3, that is ridiculous and if it does happen, I really wonder if Microsoft even bought Sony's wits.
 
I still think GT5 will be announced today.

The reason I think this is why would Kaz discuss one of the most eagerly anticipated games before the sony presentation. A film director wouldn't discuss the ending of a film until its been shown because he wouldn't want to spoil it and the same principle applies.

If they don't then my word they have missed out on a great opportunity. I say this after listening to Turn 10 yesterday saying "Forza 3 will have the best looking graphics on any console" and "Greatest roster of any cars on any console". Now PD have a great opportunity of making Turn 10 look silly by these comments!
 
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