Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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In live translation of Soloviev Live "expert" said that our army cant win and Soloviev said the we should leave.


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McDonald's and KFC out -100.000 workplaces.
 
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inCloud
In live translation of Soloviev Live "expert" said that our army cant win and Soloviev said the we should leave.


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McDonald's and KFC out -100.000 workplaces.
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Surprised Putin hasn't fired him yet.
 
Sanctions, sanctions, sanctions. They are starting to cause trouble everywhere. The West and NATO needs to replace the sanctions with a a darker rhetoric. Draw a line that cannot be misunderstood, like Russia did.
 
Russia is losing a lot of vehicles and soldiers, if this reporting is to be believed.

Since the start of the war, Ukraine’s military claims to have killed more than 12,000 Russian soldiers. In its latest daily update on Tuesday, the military said that it had shot down or destroyed 48 Russian airplanes and 80 helicopters; captured or destroyed 303 tanks and hundreds of mechanized vehicles and cars; taken out two Russian naval vessels, including a warship; and blown up dozens of fuel tanker and mobile missile launching systems.

“Russia has not lost as much aircraft in the past 30 years as in 13 days in Ukraine,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his daily address to the nation on Tuesday.
Satellite imagery analyzed by military analysts suggests that roughly 950 Russian vehicles, including 140 tanks, have been destroyed or damaged, according to Justin Bronk, a research fellow for air power and technology at the Royal United Services Institute, a London think tank that specializes in security issues. That represents only a fraction of the invasion force, but is still striking.
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Did I read somewhere correctly that Russia pays $65,000 to the family of KIA soldiers? I'm guessing Syrian and Chechen conscripts won't receive the same benefits, but either way this seems like it could easily top $1bn in compensation if things keep going the way they are. The US estimates 4,000 Russian KIA which would equal up to $250m and if Ukrainian estimates are correct it's more like $750+m. Russia has probably lost at least $1bn worth of tanks and aircraft as well.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Russia is losing a lot of vehicles and soldiers, if this reporting is to be believed.



Did I read somewhere correctly that Russia pays $65,000 to the family of KIA soldiers? I'm guessing Syrian and Chechen conscripts won't receive the same benefits, but either way this seems like it could easily top $1bn in compensation if things keep going the way they are. The US estimates 4,000 Russian KIA which would equal up to $250m and if Ukrainian estimates are correct it's more like $750+m. Russia has probably lost at least $1bn worth of tanks and aircraft as well.
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Good thing their currency is valued so well against the dollar so they can afford that.
 
Nielsen
Sanctions, sanctions, sanctions. They are starting to cause trouble everywhere. The West and NATO needs to replace the sanctions with a a darker rhetoric. Draw a line that cannot be misunderstood, like Russia did.
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...right... like darker rhetoric is going to get things done, and definitely won't cause trouble everywhere.

Economic sanctions actually have an effect without shots being fired. And NATO has a fairly bright line.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
The US estimates 4,000 Russian KIA which would equal up to $250m and if Ukrainian estimates are correct it's more like $750+m. Russia has probably lost at least $1bn worth of tanks and aircraft as well.
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Losing the money is bad, but more importantly, they've lost their reputation as a formidable military power.
 
Populuxe
Losing the money is bad, but more importantly, they've lost their reputation as a formidable military power.
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Yes, it's almost as if they are deliberately illustrating that Russia would have no chance in a conventional war with NATO. Though I think it's worth remembering that this is far from a general mobilization.

For comparison, when the coalition forces invaded Iraq during Desert Storm, it was a force of 900,000 soldiers against an adversary probably not as technically sophisticated (though well armed, generally, and battle hardened) as Ukraine. It makes me think Russia was counting heavily on a quick capitulation and didn't really anticipate any other eventualities.
 
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The unfortunate scary thing is Putin can easily just go a last ditch effort and resort to nukes. If what is being explained about the Russian military is true, this puts Putin in an humiliating situation and think about nukes to try and save himself
 
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Eunos_Cosmo
Did I read somewhere correctly that Russia pays $65,000 to the family of KIA soldiers? I'm guessing Syrian and Chechen conscripts won't receive the same benefits, but either way this seems like it could easily top $1bn in compensation if things keep going the way they are. The US estimates 4,000 Russian KIA which would equal up to $250m and if Ukrainian estimates are correct it's more like $750+m. Russia has probably lost at least $1bn worth of tanks and aircraft as well.
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Keep in mind that they would not pay in $$ and ₽ is in pre default state. We already cant buy $$ as cash. Also, our president always was a liar, so I don't think there will be any real compensation.
Blitz24
I'm pretty sure that Putin is aiming for the USSR of the 50s, NOT the USSR of the late 80s.
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Its not important what Putin want. More important what quality of life is bare minimum for average Russian. I highly doubt that its anywhere near USSRs 80s
 
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Nielsen
It worked during the old Cold War.
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Yeah, it worked alright. It also resulted in people being persecuted due to their personal beliefs, countless proxy wars that basically accomplished nothing, and the entire world being in a damn-near constant state of fear of a nuclear apocalypse, among other things.

Pretty much any other "darker rhetoric" that could be committed to at this point would involve actual acts of warfare by the West, against a nutjob that is looking for any justifiable excuse to invade Continental Europe and/or start a nuclear conflict. It'll take some more time, but let's let the sanctions do their job first. Yes, it sucks for the rest of us, but it's the best way to potentially end the conflict while keeping bloodshed to a minimum.
 
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The plant isn't active, correct? I'm sort of not overly worried about this as occam's razor and recent context from Russian army about 3G/4G being down (referenced in the report of that Major General being turned into salsa) would indicate that maybe the transmitter or source of data simply got damaged.
 
The other 3 reactors already been shut down since 2000, and the plant is no longer active anymore but going through the process of decommissioning.
 
I have a feeling that NATO are trying these sanctions as an experiment anyway. How much can they do without actually going to war. If it works this time, they'll be able to use this tactic in the future even if another NATO member is attacked. This could be a pretty important lesson of "can we win a war without sending our soldiers in". After all, the two last major conflicts NATO and/or the big NATO players got involved in were the highly unpopular Iraq war and the failure of the Afghanistan War. NATO are weary because they may have conflict experience, but still don't really have the success or support from the population they'd have hoped for.
 
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WTF is with these people?
 
I am currently watching the RF Ministry spokeswoman,can anyone take these idiots seriously,their contradictory behaviour and lies are so disturbing.Having this scum run your country is such a sad state of affairs for Russian people.
 
RESHIRAM5
The unfortunate scary thing is Putin can easily just go a last ditch effort and resort to nukes. If what is being explained about the Russian military is true, this puts Putin in an humiliating situation and think about nukes to try and save himself
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Kinda, but nukes still don't win him anything at this point. Also, there will be other people in the chain of command to fire the nukes and one could hope that they would refuse. If Putin gets bat**** enough, the people around him will start to see him as a liability. Military commanders are not known for their stupidity, and even if he has some of them under his thumb at some point they will see the writing on the wall and start thinking about what is the best way for them to avoid a firing squad.
Nielsen
It worked during the old Cold War.
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It didn't. We missed nuclear war by a hair's breadth several times.

If you drive home drunk and don't kill yourself or anyone else you don't say that it worked, you say that you got lucky.
 

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