Russian Invasion of Ukraine
- Thread starter Rage Racer
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How can Russia have 30k casualties if there's no war and everyone in Luhansk and Donetsk fighting for them is only Russian when it's politically advantageous?
Checkmate, Ukraine
(On a related note I came across a heat map I now can't find of the Russian republics ranked by casualties per capita. Unsurprisingly leading the list are the poorest and most remote republics such as Dagestan and some of the small "where the hells" in the Eastern/Mongolian end of Russia. The Moscow region has one of the lowest, of course.)
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"There are no Russian military units in Kherson, but it is occupied by Russian military units and Russian military units shot down the all missiles aimed at Kherson."
"Russian military units suppressed several anti-occupation protests in Kherson but civilians support the actions of Russian military units. Oh, and there are no Russian military units in Kherson."
"Ukraine is such a war criminal! They didn't surrender and made us level their cities and villages to the ground."
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- Rage_Racer_VOLK
- RageRacer48
Evacuated... to Russian prisons.
Kind of funny to see Zelensky's office reporting it as a peremoha (they probably hoped to exchange those Azov and Aidar fighters for Russian prisoners). Can't imagine what kind of zrada it will be when they start getting prison sentences in Russia for their war crimes. The RF government said "Nazi criminals will not be traded" (Russia has plenty of other Ukrainian POWs to exchange).
Since most of POWs from Azovstal are transported to Russia (over 900 reportedly have surrendered by now), they won't be executed, so, a long vacation on the resorts of Solikamsk and Magadan with free food and healthcare is definetly better than starving to death in the basements of Azovstal. A lot of Russian commenters of these news are calling to just waste those nAvoz scumbags instead of curing them in our hospitals at our expense. But I think even neo-Nazi degenerates deserve humane treatment if they give up their arms.
Magic of headline.
Zakharova isn't the best at phrasing but I guess she tried to say UA fired missiles/rockets at Kherson's living areas where no Russian military objects were present (the AA defense units didn't have to locate exactly in those areas to intercept those missiles). Not the first time for Ukraine to bomb civilians of a city it considers its own.
Orcs. Very well.
Dehumanizing the Russians by calling them "orcs" is definetly the best way to attract a Russian person to your side, yeah...
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No, it isn't... it's a telltale that you're butt hurt.
No one will care that you, someone that supports the war, isn't going to be on their side.
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- Dennisch
You sir, are a despicable human being. I hope the misery that the Ukrainians are suffering right now will fall on your doorstep soon.
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Then they shouldn't behave as such.
Actually I'm not even sure if I should waste my time replying to someone whose talking points for the entire war have been easily disproven Putinist trash, and who's just one draft letter away from evolving into another rapist orc himself.
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- Rage_Racer_VOLK
- RageRacer48
I'm butthurt by Zelensky calling Azov's surrender a Ukraine's victory?
Totally.
The question was "why should I wish defeat to my country?" and a person replying to it called us orcs. That makes a good answer, I guess...
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Tell me, what do you think of Zelensky?
Sucks to have to admit your country is in the wrong. Some of your countrymen are brave enough to put right and wrong before nationalism, why aren't you?
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Because ideally you should work towards not being a compulsive liar regarding the half dozen times you've insisted that you're actually against the war happening.
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~700-1000 russian soliders were captured by Ukrainian forces. Sure there will be famous russian court, but after that everyone would be extracted to Ukraine/RF.
If someone marauding, killing innocents, raping and doing acts of vandalism he is orc by definition. Its not dehumanisation. And those orcs doesn't represent Russians even if they have RF citizenship.
As patriot you should wish defeat to you government to save your country from collapse. Economical isolation from Europe would kill both in few years if war doesn't stop and only way to stop it is to retreat.
RF already losing war - it lost most of what was taken in first days and cant do anything in Donbass. Clever will be to stop where it is and start talking about peace.
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Straight from RF playbook;
Score minor victory of attrition? Great victory
Held up a local advance for a few weeks? Great victory
Occupied villages for 2wks just enough time to get some war crimes in? Great victory
Pushed out of Kyiv? It was a feint
Pushed out of Kharkiv to the border? It was a feint
Entire battalion lost attempting to pontoon a river? Those were Ukrainian tanks that they painted Zs on tovarisch
))))You're supporting a completely phony war of aggression and the Kremlin isn't even sending your own people to fight it, sending Ukrainians in Donbas with awful kit, sending Dagestanis and Syrians and African mercenaries and whoever else is isolated enough from the world to drink the ridiculous vatnik kool-aid
EDIT: imagine claiming you're going into Mariupol to take out fascists and unironically sending Kadyrov and his Chechen goons...
You can still do better, you can still contribute to random blameless fires in Russian recruitment centres and logistics centres, it is not treason to misplace a cigarette butt in some tank or aviation fuel, mistakes happen
I wish a speedy defeat for Russia as bloodlessly as possible, that is the best outcome for the world, and the best way to achieve it is Russians to wake up and realise none of this is in your interest.
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Another great Kremlin trick is at play here - it's impossible to determine if you're defeated if your war goals are as deliberately vague as "denazification". There are some loose statements about securing the independence for the Donetsk and Luhansk seperatists but I'm not sure I've seen this in writing as a stated aim of the "special operation".
The Kremlin can and will be bold faced enough to say "yes we failed every major offensive and filled every hospital still left standing with our Donbas volunteers/conscripts and yes we did not secure air superiority or destroy all Ukrainian advanced weaponry and yes we lost 30,000 troops, 1000 tanks, a flagship and more but hey 40 Azov Battalion guys are in prison now, mission accomplished".
RF needs clear, achievable goals to set the stage for a withdrawal ASAP or I truly believe the Donbas will become Russia's Afghanistan (2) and become an embarrassing source of constant military expenditure. However with the western arms flooding into Ukraine the Russian military can expect a much bloodier time of an occupation than even the western coalition in Afghanistan did.
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Ukrainian widow confronts Russian soldier accused of killing her husband
The 21-year-old serviceman has pled guilty to killing her husband in a village in Ukraine's north-east.
www.bbc.com
So sad. The lose/lose of war. Putin & his cronies should be the ones being jailed for life.
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- TPCDangerSashimi
I find this 2018 interview interesting. He suggests Putin may a puppet.
Sound like consipiracy theory stuff, but coming from Mikhail Khodorkvsky I feel it's a worthy perspective.
There's a good documentary on Amazon called Citizen K about Khodorvsky - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_K
Sound like consipiracy theory stuff, but coming from Mikhail Khodorkvsky I feel it's a worthy perspective.
There's a good documentary on Amazon called Citizen K about Khodorvsky - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_K
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It should be noted live maps should always be taken with a pinch of salt, in fact already in this conflict we have seen maps disappear for allegedly being too close to accurate depictions of troop movements, to the point they could compromise ongoing actions.
On another note the war is taking on a strong stalemate flavour, and I do not think we will see major impactful actions before mid June.
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