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Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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After the collapse of the Soviet Union the Russians embarked on a ambitious modernisation plan to modernise their armed forces to keep up to date with Nato or any of their would be rivals.
But it seems all that money went some where 🤔
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It seems Russia has withdrawn from Kherson.
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The window must have fallen on top of the car.
How it started (October 6th, 2022):
How it's going (November 9th, 2022):
Kremlin-Installed Official in Ukraine Slams Russian Military Leaders Over Mounting Losses - The Moscow Times
A senior Kremlin-installed official in Ukraine’s partially occupied Kherson region lashed out at Russian military officials Thursday, a rare example of full-throated criticism from an official as Moscow faces mounting military losses to Kyiv. “Many are saying that the Defense Minister — who...www.themoscowtimes.com
Kirill Stremousov: Senior Russian Kherson official dies in car crash, officials say
Kirill Stremousov was appointed two months after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.www.bbc.co.uk
The only question I have is: how did they get his car up 8 flights of stairs??
The window must have fallen on top of the car.
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If he didn't wear his seatbelt, he could still have been defenestrated through the windscreen if the "accident" was fast enough...
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I hope this is not an ominous sign.
If ever there was to be a prelude to a nuclear attack, it would be an evacuation of pro-Russian citizens followed by a full troop withdrawal from a key region - like Kherson.
Putin cannot win this conflict, he can only make Ukraine and its supporters suffer as much as he can - but Putin can't even achieve that through his conventional armed forces, as they've proven to be spectacularly incompetent (as well as utterly inhumane, even to their own people). Putin doesn't have many other cards to play other than the 'Shock and Awe' approach... either that or he sees sense, which I think is very unlikely.
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I'm not sure what nuking Kherson would accomplish other than fully alienating Russia from even China, Iran, and India. I don't understand what is happening either but it could just be that the effort and probable losses to attempt and fail to hold Kherson was not worth it and it risked compromising the other annexed regions. We'll know eventually...
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One would hope that the backlash from Russia's so-called allies would be intense, but don't forget what's in it for them too.
Russia is aiming at nothing less than a total realignment of global power, and bringing democracy down a peg or two (well, getting rid of it completely would be a bonus), and that includes promoting Trumpism in the US and it's bastard children Brexit in the UK and Euroskepticism in the EU. China and Iran are all in favour of all of the above, and India is regionally more sensitive to its neighbours than it is to 'the West'.
For all we know, they would not only turn a blind eye to a nuclear attack on Ukraine, but are possibly quite keen on the idea because they figure (perhaps correctly) that it's a free play - if the EU, UK, US and Japan won't/don't counter such an atrocity, then why would China condemn it?
I do, however, hope that this isn't the case. China (and everyone else for that matter) does stand to lose from this situation if they are not careful, and can still exert considerable (and possibly critical) pressure on Putin, and avoid the prospect of a global nuclear war.
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I think you are both overly pessimistic and also giving Russia more credit than it's due.
Russia's aim for a realignment of global power might as well be shouting at clouds at this point. They don't have the economic muscle and they've demonstrated they don't have the military muscle to do it. Their influence campaigns were effective when they were subliminal, but significantly less so now that they aren't.
Iran's government is on the verge of collapse and even conservatives there are wary of alignment with Russia. Russia has effectively zero support from the Iranian people...and hopefully that will matter a lot more in the coming years.
China is, ultimately, pretty pragmatic. They would not turn a blind eye to a nuclear attack because there will be severe consequences if it happens.
I think if anything, China is seeing that western funding and military equipment can make a powerful nation bleed a lot more than expected and probably giving some thought to what would happen in Taiwan.
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I mean at the very least you could forgo the Adidas tracksuit, it's a dead giveaway. The only thing he could do that would make it more obvious would be to be squatting for no apparent reason.Really weird to see that the newly liberated Russian regions fly so many Ukrainian flags when the Russians are gone.
Weird.
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Ivan, you're not fooling anyone.
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That was great.
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Should we be singing Moscow over and over?
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Conclusion:
- almost all RF soliders leaked to left bank, with casualties not as massive as we expected. Some were lost in progress and still somewhere near Kherson. God knows how many, but not thousands.
- We could only imagine what effect this would make at moral.
- Losses in equipment were much more drastic, but still lesser than what we saw in Kharkiv.
- GMLRS could reach border with Crimea(80km range). Also, there is rumours about 160km missiles for HIMARS already in Ukraine.
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