Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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Live re-enactment of getting the average Republican in Congress to get along
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Only two Democrats, Peter Welch of Vermont and Jeff Merkley of Oregon, and one independent, Bernie Sanders of Vermont, have voted against aid to Ukraine. All of them have said it was due to the aid being attached to aid for Israel. Meanwhile, 26 Republicans have voted against it for various reasons, with the main reason being Trump told them to vote that way. Although, with Senators like Mike Lee from Utah, it's because they're directly tied to Russian money.
Once again, you show that you're not aware of how the American government functions, which is fine, but quit pretending like you do.
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And what's more, the sole reason it's not being voted on is because Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (Republican-LA) refuses to put it to a vote and is using it as leverage for more robust immigration reforms in the US. However, when immigrations reforms were put to a vote, it was rejected by Republicans.
Democrats share the blame for a lot of things, aid to Ukraine isn't one of those things.
Democrats share the blame for a lot of things, aid to Ukraine isn't one of those things.
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You'd think this might line up the other way. Pinko communist lefties might be sympathetic to Russia - because of the history of communism or whatever. And you'd think that the Republicans would be the very last in line to support Russia. Usually it's the right wing that wants to help other countries fight perceived adversaries, and Russia has been the classic adversary.
Somehow because of the republicans' unpopular opinions they've shifted toward a power grab that involves looking a lot more like Russia - and so they feel the need to like Putin and stick it to Ukraine. It's so gross.
Somehow because republicans are uncomfortable with brown people and worried about a white majority, Ukrainians die.
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I'll continue to say that Ronald Reagan must be spinning in his grave seeing Republicans not want to obliterate Russia at every opportunity. A good Republican would've used this war to increase military spending by billions and push through pet projects, like lasers in space, because of the ongoing threats from Russia. But nope, we just have Senators like Mike Lee taking unannounced trips to Russia and right-wing "news" correspondents who look like they pooped themselves go over there and suck up to the dear leader.
It's weird that in my short life time Republicans have gone from "better dead than Red" to "this Putin guy is a strong leader".
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No, not even close. At this point, the Democrats could propose forming a heavily armed border with Mexico, and the Republicans would reject it because it benefits them in the upcoming election to not have anything happen with immigration. There is no price that would push it forward outside maybe Biden resigning.
From the outside, they still look similar to how they did when they were the Soviets, but that wasn't my point with that statement. Under Regean, Republicans hated Russians and in less than 30 years they've gone to loving them.
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Well, that and they consistently can't create a long-term government funding plan. Basically we are at the point where they would rather sit around and do nothing until they get their leader in office because that's all they believe their job requires: pandering to their leader. I just hope Ukraine will be around in 10 months if the Republicans continue to throw their toys out of the pram.
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Not sure how Republicans would sell something like that to electorate.
Current RF looks alot like fascist regimes of Black Colonels, Franko, Pinochet or Salasar. Not sure what similarities with Soviets you talking about.
Debatable. Things could go both sides, depends on RF desire to cooperate. We can't say that Trump did something in favour of RF when he was president.
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Except Congressional Republicans blocked a border bill because it helps them and they are using that in campaign messages, which is working with voters. Republicans can sell stuff to their electorate fairly easily since a large portion of their electorate is uneducated.
A dictator waving nuclear weapons around and trying to take over Eastern Europe while committing genocide and killing an insane amount of people. There's also the whole state taking over companies too, like every Western company that pulled out. From the outside, it's still the same old Soviet Union without the Eastern Bloc. From the inside, it might not seem like it, but it's kind of a "they're the same picture" sort of a thing from the outside.
Trump did several things favourable for Russia when he was president. He weakened NATO and is now even encouraging Russia to invade NATO members. Trump also considerably weakened Ukraine by withholding aid to get dirt on Democratic rivals, he was literally impeached over this. This doesn't even scratch the surface of how Trump and several of the people he had in office with him have/had ties to Russian businesses.
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Let's say, things didn't go as planned. Diversionary war is popular thing for far right regimes on brink of death, Black Colonels and Galtieri did similar things, they just didn't have resources to make full on bloodbath out of it.
Didn't Merkel butchered Bundeswer earlier? Not sure how he weakened it. Poland became more powerful during his reign, for example.
Lets say he proceeded to do same things Obama and Merkel did before, but without hypocrisy.
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